Vaccine theory

[Real McCoy]

3 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

 

There's all kinds of coercion going on at different levels. Of course we get to see some of the worst behavior in this regard in rural areas.

 

 

 

 

 

They must be held accountable. All parties are in on it. If we Indians stand together regardless of religious or regional boundaries, they will back off and come back later with some other schemes. I heard they are marketing vaccines for a free strip club dance in US If the vaccines are really for the good, they don't have to do all these things.

[Jimmy Cliff]

1 hour ago, Real McCoy said:

They must be held accountable. All parties are in on it. If we Indians stand together regardless of religious or regional boundaries, they will back off and come back later with some other schemes. I heard they are marketing vaccines for a free strip club dance in US If the vaccines are really for the good, they don't have to do all these things.

 

How are you gonna achieve that when most Indians depend on one MSM entity or the other for news? Doesn't really matter which side of the fake right/left divide they are on, they will all be bludgeoned with extreme pro-vaccine propaganda and every adverse event post vaccination would be brushed off as "extremely rare". End result is something like this:

 

 

 

 

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Forget all conspiracy theories.Vaccine works. The only way to avoid a huge third wave in India is to vaccinate.atleast 50 percent as quickly as possible. 

[Real McCoy]

21 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

 

How are you gonna achieve that when most Indians depend on one MSM entity or the other for news? Doesn't really matter which side of the fake right/left divide they are on, they will all be bludgeoned with extreme pro-vaccine propaganda and every adverse event post vaccination would be brushed off as "extremely rare". End result is something like this:

 

 

 

 

The propaganda has various legs like an octopus. One is forced other as you said is cutting power supply. These people know human psychology. When there is fear porn all around the media and a forced shortage of supply of vacc, they know it will create a panic among those who don't discern what they see. This tweet very much highlights the outcome of this strategy. I have told my friends but no response. I even gave them the videos about WEF and their agenda. Nobody listened and took the vacc. I'm the odd one out and I end up looking like a tin foil hat wearer. Its odd that these people are still afraid of the virus even though they took the vacc. So I'm not forwarding these videos no more. Only on ICF

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[Real McCoy]

1 hour ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

 

 

Good video. Still people would deny it. Just wait and watch. The content creator of that channel looks weird af though. She looks like an alien

[Jimmy Cliff]

On 6/6/2021 at 10:19 PM, Jimmy Cliff said:

 

 

Oops. 

 

 

 

 

So we went from stating that fully vaccinated immunocompromised individuals have no protection from vaccines to immunocompromised individuals needing boosters within a couple of months . What will these "boosters" do that the original vaccines couldn't? 

[Real McCoy]

9 hours ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

 

 

 

So we went from stating that fully vaccinated immunocompromised individuals have no protection from vaccines to immunocompromised individuals needing boosters within a couple of months . What will these "boosters" do that the original vaccines couldn't? 

Boost the compromisation (if that's even a word) of the immune system silly

[Jimmy Cliff]

 

 

 

[BacktoCricaddict]

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/verify/verify-vaccinated-people-more-likely-to-die-from-delta-variant/275-874d3ad6-c44f-46f1-a5b0-8c3fe7489b2e

 

The Question

Are vaccinated people more likely to die from the delta variant than unvaccinated people, according to Public Health England data?

Sources

• Public Health England
• Dr. Jane Kelly, Assistant State Epidemiologist, South Carolina's Department of Health and Environmental Control

The Answer

Any conclusions from the PHE data that vaccinated people are more at risk of dying from the delta variant are built on flawed logic, according to Kelly. The article in question also ignores data showing the effectiveness of the vaccines.

 

"It is quoting some numbers out of context and failing to understand that a certain number of people, inevitably, even if fully vaccinated, may contract COVID and have a bad outcome," Kelly said.  It is apparent, from the headline, the article's author takes the 26 delta-related deaths in vaccinated people, cited in the PHE briefing, and divides those by the total number of delta cases in vaccinated people, which is roughly 4,000. The death rate calculates to about 0.6%.

 

That is compared to 34 deaths in unvaccinated people, out of roughly 35,000 delta cases in unvaccinated people, which is a death rate of about 0.1%.

 

While that math seemingly points to a lower death rate in unvaccinated people, Kelly reminds that the math leaves out the important factor of why the vaccinated people got sick in the first place.

 

"They were largely older people, people who had other medical problems, people who had conditions that might render their immune systems less responsive," Kelly said. "This is a classic case of the misuse of statistics."

Essentially, the two-sample groups of deaths are not comparable.

 

The article also ignores the data showing, out of more than 60,000 cases of delta, there were about 4,000 cases in fully vaccinated people, making about 7% of all delta cases breakthrough cases. Thus, an overwhelming majority of people who fell ill with delta during the study period in the U.K. were unvaccinated or had not completed their vaccination series.

 

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[Real McCoy]

typing in bold letters to emphasize their propaganda

[nevada]

22 hours ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

 

 

 

So we went from stating that fully vaccinated immunocompromised individuals have no protection from vaccines to immunocompromised individuals needing boosters within a couple of months . What will these "boosters" do that the original vaccines couldn't? 

One thing the boosters will do for sure is boost the bottomline of the companies that sell them! 

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Didn't Vanden Bossche say something similar? @urbestfriend . Wonder why the UK Gobarmint is indulging in the same misinformation .

 

[Real McCoy]

1 hour ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

 

 

Didn't Vanden Bossche say something similar? @urbestfriend . Wonder why the UK Gobarmint is indulging in the same misinformation .

 

The said best friend is a vaccine believer IIRC. He will come back with the most min numbing poison from the athoritays. It looks more like 1984 type of disinfo from the top. Ministry of health is actually ministry of disease. See the way they name their authorities. In US, its called Center for Disease Control (CDC). They don't prevent disease. They just control it to their acceptable level to fear monger the people.

[Jimmy Cliff]

43 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

The said best friend is a vaccine believer IIRC. He will come back with the most min numbing poison from the athoritays. It looks more like 1984 type of disinfo from the top. Ministry of health is actually ministry of disease. See the way they name their authorities. In US, its called Center for Disease Control (CDC). They don't prevent disease. They just control it to their acceptable level to fear monger the people.

 

Well he has been asking the right questions about these vaccines.

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[Real McCoy]

3 hours ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

 

Well he has been asking the right questions about these vaccines.

You have the patience of a sage man. What most koweed pushers use is gobarmint apporved medical articles and the enormous amount of data and bar charts to argue the case. I know of a few people in this same forum that do that and they are full on committed to the cause so much so that I'm suspecting them to be shills. Even if they are not, they are completely in tune with the kowweed narrative that arguing with them is a waste of time.

 

Edit: think of the devil, posted above my post probably not even a real statistic.

 

Edited July 27, 2021 by Real McCoy

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