Yoda-esque Posted June 11, 2021 Posted June 11, 2021 Read again, Sikhs were targeted in India after InGa was assassinated, all over north India. After, RaGa was assassinated, there was no such similar targeted killings of SLan Tamils in India. The SLan strife had a long list of atrocities committed on Tamils in SL, India couldn’t butt in mainly because LTTE committed terrorist activities like Kashmiri terrorists and India couldn’t help.India should have just washed it's hands off that entire case. coffee_rules 1
Vilander Posted June 11, 2021 Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: SL Tamil issue started out as a language issue in the 50s, when lower strata Sinhalese wanted to show their superiority over richer Tamils and made Sinhala language official in SL over Tamil. In the 80s. when LTTE started targeting the SL civilians, they were naturally called as a terrorist organization. They had established an almost sovereign nation in Eelam/Jaffna with army, and some inferior navy and some air defence as well. this is what you said -- go read about the dozens of ethnic riots that SL tamils suffered at the hands of Sinhalese majority. LTTE did not just spring up and become a terrorist org out of no where. it is disgusting to see you justify what was done to SL tamils here.
Vilander Posted June 11, 2021 Posted June 11, 2021 1 minute ago, coffee_rules said: Idiot, just saying Tamils were not killed after RaGa was shredded to pieces. You are beyond help. hehe hoho why would Tamils be killed after Raga assassination you piece of **** ??
Vilander Posted June 11, 2021 Posted June 11, 2021 @coffee_rules for your ignorance - SL Tamils - Srilankan people who speak Tamil. SL moors - Mulslim settlers in Sl who speak Tamil Indian Sl Tamils - Tamil speaking Indian settlers in Hill country (Kandy) in Sl. Tamils from Tamil Nadu - The Tamil sub nationality in India where Tamil language originated.
coffee_rules Posted June 11, 2021 Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Vilander said: hehe hoho why would Tamils be killed after Raga assassination you piece of **** ?? Why were Sikhs killed after InGa was killed myrandi ? Congress goons killed Brahmins in MH after Godse killed MaGa Edited June 11, 2021 by coffee_rules
Vilander Posted June 11, 2021 Posted June 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Yoda-esque said: 9 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Read again, Sikhs were targeted in India after InGa was assassinated, all over north India. After, RaGa was assassinated, there was no such similar targeted killings of SLan Tamils in India. The SLan strife had a long list of atrocities committed on Tamils in SL, India couldn’t butt in mainly because LTTE committed terrorist activities like Kashmiri terrorists and India couldn’t help. India should have just washed it's hands off that entire case. oh ignoramusesq little fella this discussion is for adults ok.. run along now.
Vilander Posted June 11, 2021 Posted June 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Why were Sikhs killed after InGa was killed myrandi ? Congress goons killed Brahmins in MH after Godse killed MaGa dei echa do you know diff between Tamils and SL tamils ?
coffee_rules Posted June 11, 2021 Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, Vilander said: dei echa do you know diff between Tamils and SL tamils ? Exactly, that is what I was telling @mishrathat there is no equivalence between Sikhs issue and SL Tamils issue , until you started your menstruated diatribes. Now run along, don’t butt in when uncles are discussing
Vilander Posted June 11, 2021 Posted June 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Idiot, 9 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: myrandi 9 minutes ago, Yoda-esque said: Chu ke lol this is your level.
Vilander Posted June 11, 2021 Posted June 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Exactly, that is what I was telling @mishrathat there is no equivalence between Sikhs issue and SL Tamils issue , until you started your menstruated diatribes. Now run along, don’t butt in when uncles are discussing Umm sorry. you said SL tamils were not targeted like Sikhs were , and that LTTE started the killings. - Wrong. SL Sinhala majority did pogroms from 1956 to late 1970's unapposed before Tamils took arms. You even said Tamils( Indians) were not targeted after raga assassination, like Sikhs were after indira assassination - as if that meant - SL tamils did not have a legitimate cause to fight. Dude SL tamil issue is separate, and of course Tamils ( Indians ) wont be targeted lol for Raga assassination.
Vilander Posted June 11, 2021 Posted June 11, 2021 54 minutes ago, Under_Score said: NRI Sikhs have the freedom to say about all the injustice that happened bcoz no harami corrupt Indian haramkhor Neta can do anything to them There is some context as well. Which is often lost in NRI Sikhs, which shows that they are victims of probaganda in some level.
LordPrabhzy Posted June 11, 2021 Posted June 11, 2021 7 hours ago, Under_Score said: Well, not sure which Khalistani forum you visit and are bringing that frustration in your post. You are too quick to call 'Congress Hindus' who did the carnage in 84 Genocide but generalizing all Sikhs when it comes to what they say about Bhindranwale. NRI Sikhs have the freedom to say about all the injustice that happened bcoz no harami corrupt Indian haramkhor Neta can do anything to them. It is that simple. There are lots of Sikhs living in Punjab who believe that Indira Gandhi was a defiant bitch who deserved what she got & Shivsena are trouble makers in Punjab. So now these Sikhs must be Deshdrohis according to the Bhagwa mentality. Here is the recent incident that happened in Punjab....courtsey of Right wing Hindu nutters. I dont need to visit any Khalistani forums mate.. I live in the west so I see the utter contempt and blind hate for India and the overspill into anti hindu comments quite openly here. As I said what happened in Delhi in 84 and Bhindrawale and his acitvities are two seperate things. If NRI Sikhs want justice delhi all Hindus will stand with them no questions ask.. but if anyone tries to glorify Bhindrawale and his supporters and tries to brush the death is hindus in punjab under the carpet as 'RAW propaganda' then Im sorry not our problem, you can keep demanding your one sided justice all you want. Shiv Sena is NOT the representatives of Hindus in punjab... its one fringe element of a Maharashtra party trying to gain prominence in Punjab. Opposing Shiv Sena in democratic way is not illegal in any way or form- but once you start going after common Hindus and colluding with western khalistanis, then yes you are deshdrohis. Yoda-esque, Vilander, mishra and 1 other 1 1 2
mishra Posted June 11, 2021 Posted June 11, 2021 12 hours ago, coffee_rules said: I don’t think it is equivalent (84 Sikh genocide vs 90 SL Tamils). First of all, SL Tamils were not targeted like Sikhs. … Unfair to blame it on Sonia as she was in control only from 2004, while in 15 years before, other Governments didn’t do anything for SLan Tamil cause. LTTE is alleged to have supplied arms to naxals and brigands like Veerappan, India was naturally indifferent to their cause, not just because RaGa ‘s death. Kashmir was the main reason why India backed off supporting SL Tamils. How do you think SL forces won the war. Yes, Indian navy didn’t sunk three LTTE ships but who provided intelligence to SL forces? Who managed a defection in LTTE with 6500+ forces? who created a near blockade to LTTE arms imports? Answer to all of above is India. So in 2006 who was in seat of power in Indi? Answer: Sonia What we got in return? Answer: Sri Lanka doing a genocide of Tamils and shaking hands with China. PS: I meet a lot of SL Tamils in my cricket team and I don’t think either me or they feel that we are from different countries. Hence imo, They are Tamil and Tamils are Indians.
Vilander Posted June 11, 2021 Posted June 11, 2021 7 hours ago, Under_Score said: @Vilander Not all bro....there are many Khalistani supporters here, but a lot more who know that 'Khalstan' in NEVER possible now, only time it was possible was during the partition in 1947. Their frustration is more due to the fact that since Sikhs are a very small minority in India, the shitholen corrupt leaders of India will never provide any security or justice as it should be in a Democracy. Many here don't buy into any propaganda....they did discover 'Real Democracy' in these developed countries and India still remains a 'Fake Democracy'.....which is a fact. I sincerely hope bro but when I hear Sikhs speak Pakistani propaganda I feel one thing BETRAYAL. I am sure the more right wing Hindu people will feel more of it. for all the Hindu and Sikh lives horrifically lost over 100s of years to ‘peaceful’ invaders from the east of India lol to see Sikhs parrot enemies propaganda , has to take the icing on the cake. Any way hope it dies.
Vilander Posted June 11, 2021 Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, LordPrabhzy said: I dont need to visit any Khalistani forums mate.. I live in the west so I see the utter contempt and blind hate for India and the overspill into anti hindu comments quite openly here. As I said what happened in Delhi in 84 and Bhindrawale and his acitvities are two seperate things. If NRI Sikhs want justice delhi all Hindus will stand with them no questions ask.. but if anyone tries to glorify Bhindrawale and his supporters and tries to brush the death is hindus in punjab under the carpet as 'RAW propaganda' then Im sorry not our problem, you can keep demanding your one sided justice all you want. Shiv Sena is NOT the representatives of Hindus in punjab... its one fringe element of a Maharashtra party trying to gain prominence in Punjab. Opposing Shiv Sena in democratic way is not illegal in any way or form- but once you start going after common Hindus and colluding with western khalistanis, then yes you are deshdrohis. This is why reconciliation at national level is paramount, hope modi admin sees it. Politics in a southern left to Center state is futile opposition has a role in democracy it’s ok. But reconciliation in punjab and securing Assam bengal are paramount to national security. Edited June 11, 2021 by Vilander
coffee_rules Posted June 11, 2021 Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, mishra said: How do you think SL forces won the war. Yes, Indian navy didn’t sunk three LTTE ships but who provided intelligence to SL forces? Who managed a defection in LTTE with 6500+ forces? who created a near blockade to LTTE arms imports? Answer to all of above is India. So in 2006 who was in seat of power in Indi? Answer: Sonia What we got in return? Answer: Sri Lanka doing a genocide of Tamils and shaking hands with China. PS: I meet a lot of SL Tamils in my cricket team and I don’t think either me or they feel that we are from different countries. Hence imo, They are Tamil and Tamils are Indians. Could India afford two war fronts north and south? From the 70s both DMK parties supported Eelam leaders. MGR did what IG did by creating Bhindranwale, he supported Pirabhakaran over other Eelam leaders and he formed LTTE. MGR even got him arms and ammunition . LTTE turned to violence to effect the demands of Eelam and fight the atrocities of SLans. He killed other Eelam leaders (some in Chennai as well) who didn’t agree with his methods. Violence was the bane for SL Tamils. A more recognized intl coalition could have gotten them at least an autonomous region. DMK openly supported LTTE when Kalaignar was the CM in 1989, he charged IPKF all kinds of crimes and resigned from his assembly seat in protest the opposition leaders including BJP stood by him in those times. That was the time when LTTE was totally supported by India proxily. But it died down with LTTE getting too strong and started killing leaders of India and SL. Nobody will support such an organization. SL Tamils are the real victims, both from SL on one side and LTTE on the other side. He extorted more from SL Tamils . With Kashmir strife heating up and because of LTTE , India didn’t care for the cause of SL Tamils after RaGa. Plus, nationally, the SL Tamil cause is very remote in priority than Kashmir. Kashmir was an offshoot of partition, affect whole India (at least North India). In 2006, DMK was in office both in TN and some ministers in the center and they betrayed LTTE and SL Tamils more than anybody else, by supporting SLans. JJ used this to come back to power in 2011 , Frankly, if there was a violent armed uprising in a part of India, I would support a SLan-type effort by India to quell dissent and earn long term peace. As a country, they are doing better than India. Most Indians visit SL now, hot travel destination for Indians. Sad story of SL Tamils Edited June 11, 2021 by coffee_rules Vilander 1
Vilander Posted June 11, 2021 Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Could India afford two war fronts north and south? From the 70s both DMK parties supported Eelam leaders. MGR did what IG did by creating Bhindranwale, he supported Pirabhakaran over other Eelam leaders and he formed LTTE. MGR even got him arms and ammunition . LTTE turned to violence to effect the demands of Eelam and fight the atrocities of SLans. He killed other Eelam leaders (some in Chennai as well) who didn’t agree with his methods. Violence was the bane for SL Tamils. A more recognized intl coalition could have gotten them at least an autonomous region. DMK openly supported LTTE when Kalaignar was the CM in 1989, he charged IPKF all kinds of crimes and resigned from his assembly seat in protest the opposition leaders including BJP stood by him in those times. That was the time when LTTE was totally supported by India proxily. But it died down with LTTE getting too strong and started killing leaders of India and SL. Nobody will support such an organization. SL Tamils are the real victims, both from SL on one side and LTTE on the other side. He extorted more from SL Tamils . With Kashmir strife heating up and because of LTTE , India didn’t care for the cause of SL Tamils after RaGa. Plus, nationally, the SL Tamil cause is very remote in priority than Kashmir. Kashmir was an offshoot of partition, affect whole India (at least North India). In 2006, DMK was in office both in TN and some ministers in the center and they betrayed LTTE and SL Tamils more than anybody else, by supporting SLans. JJ used this to come back to power in 2011 , Frankly, if there was a violent armed uprising in a part of India, I would support a SLan-type effort by India to quell dissent and earn long term peace. As a country, they are doing better than India. Most Indians visit SL now, hot travel destination for Indians. Sad story of SL Tamils this is a good story with lots of factual inaccuracies and some common sense thrown in between, totally agenda and hate driver drivel. And to say MGR created LTTE lol, oh you think SL is now friends with India, very good -- be happy with the Chinese submarines in Indias backyard. Edited June 11, 2021 by Vilander
Vilander Posted June 11, 2021 Posted June 11, 2021 2 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Frankly, if there was a violent armed uprising in a part of India, I would support a SLan-type effort by India to quell dissent and earn long term peace. oh now you support crimes on humanity ? that is your level do you get that. you support artillery positions on civilians. Disgusting. Sri Lanka's Killing Fields - All 4 (channel4.com) UN screens Channel 4 Sri Lanka war crimes film – Channel 4 News And armed struggle from LTTE did not raise out of politics, it came out of sustained ethnic cleansing of SL Tamils in SL from 1956 to 1970s, this is well documented even in this thread. And you peddle your lies out of pure hate. Claiming LTTE initiated the violence, they responded to violence. And yes they were a terror org and got what they deserved. Does not white wash or absolve SL regime.
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