Real McCoy Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, bharathh said: What does BJP/Congress have to do with the folks working on this program? Where have I talked about any political affiliation in my prev posts? That said if your only issue with this is certain people liking its implementation - we have nothing more to discuss. Forget the US - look at the list I gave you with countries that have mandatory national IDs. I guess almost all governments are totalitarian according to you. You did mention RaGa yes every govt that does this is totalitarian. we are almost there. they are already have our movement curtailed. everything leads up to them and them only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: When did they claim to have addressed the issue of illegal immigrants with Adhaar? Possible to share a link? Already did in two links above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: You did mention RaGa yes every govt that does this is totalitarian. we are almost there. they are already have our movement curtailed. everything leads up to them and them only. I said don't be like him. You don't have a choice but to create your own country - like Sealand. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand Or perhaps you can join Nithyananda in Kailasa coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Already did in two links above. Doesn't have anything related to illegal immigrants. Real McCoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 Some "services" are listed in this article https://thediplomat.com/2017/04/has-india-taken-its-aadhar-card-initiative-too-far/ Quote Since late February 2017, the government has sent at least 14 notifications regarding public services that now require the Aadhar. Applications for Personal Account Number (PAN) Card are to soon require the provision of an Aadhar Card. LPG subsidies, some food subsidies, Employee Provident Funds (EPFs), some passport services, railway concessions and payments, mobile phone number verification, and possibly even attendance tracking for government employees and driving license application are all to be routed through Aadhar. The possibility of tying more welfare schemes to the Aadhar has faced significant criticism in the country; critics note the fate of similar initiatives in states like Andhra Pradesh, where the implementation of universal identity card requirements had not been smooth. In the wake of all this, the Supreme Court of India has clearly spoken out against making welfare benefits contingent on the mandatory use of Aadhar. An earlier verdict also indicated that making Aadhar a voluntary option for welfare schemes was permissible, but to make it compulsory would disadvantage individuals. However, it has also said that it cannot stop the government from a mandatory linking of Aadhar to non-welfare activities like banking or filing tax returns. The state’s rationale for the ever-pervasive use of the Aadhar has consistently been to grow a database that minimizes duplicity and fraud. However, this has raised concerns as well since the Aadhar database is of a size and scale that few others in India have come close to matching. Linking this database to other areas, like banking, taxation, or education records allows the government to compare, correlate, and track the transactions of individuals like never before. So for a few subsidies, every Indian is at risk of getting tracked. As usual, it was not only for those who wanted subsidies but everyone else. And as is the case in AP, they have not done the very thing they promised to do which is providing services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 22 hours ago, Trichromatic said: Doesn't have anything related to illegal immigrants. Read between the lines. They had security concerns earlier, the spokies say any illegal can easily get Aadhar card, Modi in his interview said the same concerns and then he said they fixed it (some vague details). His govt focus was on the Finance/Money bill that they integrated for govt schemes. We are hearing more BDs getting caught with illegal cards and some MLAs vouching for proof of persons' addresses are also caught, there is some AIMIM backed ring in MH. How are they getting caught? SOmething must have been tracked for them to be caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbestfriend Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Read between the lines. They had security concerns earlier, the spokies say any illegal can easily get Aadhar card, Modi in his interview said the same concerns and then he said they fixed it (some vague details). His govt focus was on the Finance/Money bill that they integrated for govt schemes. We are hearing more BDs getting caught with illegal cards and some MLAs vouching for proof of persons' addresses are also caught, there is some AIMIM backed ring in MH. How are they getting caught? SOmething must have been tracked for them to be caught. Nothing changed, and opposition pre-2014 was just for the sake of opposition...I remember Anatha kumar attacking Nandan Nilekani in 2014 election saying that aadhar will be scrapped lock stock and barrel as aadhar is threat to the country etc.. They attacked the whole project for few illegal immigrants caught with aadhar...Has anything changed? No...Its just that opposition for this project was baseless, hence they continued the project in its original shape, but over a period improving the implementation..Now congress is opposing.. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, urbestfriend said: Nothing changed, and opposition pre-2014 was just for the sake of opposition...I remember Anatha kumar attacking Nandan Nilekani in 2014 election saying that aadhar will be scrapped lock stock and barrel as aadhar is threat to the country etc.. They attacked the whole project for few illegal immigrants caught with aadhar...Has anything changed? No...Its just that opposition for this project was baseless, hence they continued the project in its original shape, but over a period improving the implementation..Now congress is opposing.. Followers have no clue what has been done and why it has been done. speedheat and Real McCoy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 As far as I remember Aadhar was done by Congress and new govts rarely overturn the works done by previous govts. They may make some alterations. If congress hadn't brought it, there would have been no Aadhar today and Congress leadership was influenced by CCP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: As far as I remember Aadhar was done by Congress and new govts rarely overturn the works done by previous govts. They may make some alterations. If congress hadn't brought it, there would have been no Aadhar today and Congress leadership was influenced by CCP. I don't think its influenced by CCP. Its a worldwide influence started by global elite and both congress and bjp are mere puppets in front of it. congress introduced aadhar but did not make it mandatory. bjp made it mandatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: I don't think its influenced by CCP. Its a worldwide influence started by global elite and both congress and bjp are mere puppets in front of it. congress introduced aadhar but did not make it mandatory. bjp made it mandatory. Aadhar was mandatory from the start, just not needed to link with everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Aadhar was mandatory from the start, just not needed to link with everything. Nope. I did not have it until 2017 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Real McCoy said: Nope. I did not have it until 2017 or so. I am having aadhar since 2012. Even kids in school were mandated to have aadhar here in 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted July 25, 2021 Author Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: I am having aadhar since 2012. Even kids in school were mandated to have aadhar here in 2014. Its not mandated everywhere. First it was introduced for people who wanted subsidies. That's how it got into the Indian consciousness. Then it was made mandatory in 17 where every single thing you want to do, they ask for aadhar. A year later, they said its useless but still want a copy of it. I'm like wtf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 I requested for address update for my Aadhar card online 1 month back. Status is still in progress. What should I do? Can't go to aadhar centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbestfriend Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 43 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: I requested for address update for my Aadhar card online 1 month back. Status is still in progress. What should I do? Can't go to aadhar centre. forget about status and download new aadhar, see if the address got updated. If not, they would've rejected the address proof you've provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, urbestfriend said: forget about status and download new aadhar, see if the address got updated. If not, they would've rejected the address proof you've provided. I downloaded new adhaar and it shows old address. If it's rejected, then what should I do. I had provided my voter ID as address proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: I downloaded new adhaar and it shows old address. If it's rejected, then what should I do. I had provided my voter ID as address proof. I had used the bank passbook as the proof of address, it took me more than 3 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: I had used the bank passbook as the proof of address, it took me more than 3 months 3 months after online application? Worst part is that if you go to centre in Ranchi, they tell you that it will take 1 month to get it updated normally, but can be done in 1 day for 200 rupees. When I was in Hyderabad, I was able to get it done in 15 mins, no questions asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: 3 months after online application? Worst part is that if you go to centre in Ranchi, they tell you that it will take 1 month to get it updated normally, but can be done in 1 day for 200 rupees. When I was in Hyderabad, I was able to get it done in 15 mins, no questions asked. Don’t know exactly, but it took so many months via mail. I am sure there is a way to track your application to change address online. It should say whether it was accepted or rejected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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