Tokyo 2020 Paralympics: Record 19 medals thus far!!!! Amazing

[G_B_]

9 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Amit Panghal is the best bet in boxing. Not so sure about Mary Kom, she has declined considerably, only thing never count her out.

 

Hope for the best in mixed shooting events, especially Bhaker-Chaudhary. The experienced Rahi Sarnobat too can come up with something special. 

 

Yeah i think mary is half a chance only. 

 

Was clinical today though. Anything from her will be a bonus. 

 

Will be amazing if manipur gets 2. 

[maniac]

1 hour ago, G_B_ said:

I think india do well to get 4 to 5 medals 

 

I am basing that on medals in badminton , boxing and wrestling.

any chance in tennis doubles/mixed doubles ?

[Gollum]

Nothing much in store tomorrow. Won't spoil my sleep. Welcome break after hectic first 2 days, 27th has many important events from India's pov. 

[Gollum]

10 minutes ago, maniac said:

any chance in tennis doubles/mixed doubles ?

No. 

 

Ankita-Sania lost in R1 today, after leading 6-0, 5-3 and serving for the match 

Nagal will get crushed in R2 tomorrow, against the Russian giant Medvedev (world #2, made AO final earlier this year), won't even bother checking the scoreline. 

 

Men's doubles, mixed doubles...our players missed the cut.

 

Missed many many opportunities to win tennis medals from 2000-2016 courtesy inflated egos, chokes, federation's indifference. Now future looks bleak. 

[Gollum]

At the end of day 2

2020 Summer Olympics medal table

Rank	Team	Gold	Silver	Bronze	Total
1	China (CHN)	6	1	4	11
2	Japan (JPN)*	5	1	0	6
3	United States (USA)	4	2	4	10
4	South Korea (KOR)	2	0	3	5
5	ROC (ROC)	1	4	2	7
6	Italy (ITA)	1	1	3	5
7	Australia (AUS)	1	1	1	3
	France (FRA)	1	1	1	3
9	Hungary (HUN)	1	1	0	2
	Tunisia (TUN)	1	1	0	2
11	Austria (AUT)	1	0	0	1
	Ecuador (ECU)	1	0	0	1
	Iran (IRI)	1	0	0	1
	Kosovo (KOS)	1	0	0	1
	Thailand (THA)	1	0	0	1
	Uzbekistan (UZB)	1	0	0	1
17	Canada (CAN)	0	2	0	2
	Netherlands (NED)	0	2	0	2
19	Brazil (BRA)	0	1	1	2
	Chinese Taipei (TPE)	0	1	1	2
	Great Britain (GBR)	0	1	1	2
	Indonesia (INA)	0	1	1	2
	Serbia (SRB)	0	1	1	2
24	Belgium (BEL)	0	1	0	1
	Bulgaria (BUL)	0	1	0	1
	Colombia (COL)	0	1	0	1
	Georgia (GEO)	0	1	0	1
	India (IND)	0	1	0	1
	Romania (ROU)	0	1	0	1
	Spain (ESP)	0	1	0	1
31	Germany (GER)	0	0	2	2
	Kazakhstan (KAZ)	0	0	2	2
	Turkey (TUR)	0	0	2	2
	Ukraine (UKR)	0	0	2	2
35	Estonia (EST)	0	0	1	1
	Israel (ISR)	0	0	1	1
	Mexico (MEX)	0	0	1	1
	Mongolia (MGL)	0	0	1	1
	Slovenia (SLO)	0	0	1	1
	Switzerland (SUI)	0	0	1	1
Totals (40 teams)		29	29	37	95

[raki05]

China already has 6 gold.

[I6MTW]

Seems like the top 3 will be decided between China, Japan and USA. That's settled.

I just hope India finished withing the top 30 this time. Would be a major improvement from last time.

[I6MTW]

5 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

I would much rather our leaders care about the citizens than playing sports. I don't have any illusions of India becoming a superpower. In order to become a superpower, you have to invade into or steal from other countries which I find abhorrent just as much as I find British and now American supapowas abhorrent. The idea of developed country is a misnomer in India. India can be an agricultural superpower. Yet we have concrete in cities which we call as "development". If any city dweller looks at a vacant spot, he dreams of constructing a building there. That is not development. Sports should be the last priority.

How would you quantify quality of life and development , if athletes and sportspersons are not able to perform and bring glory as much as they would have liked, or have been able to? Without sports infrastructure, training, diet and fitness, mental conditioning facilities available as much as any other developed country. How else would you be able to quantify development? ' Status of achieving Superpower" can be debated and "industrial development" can also be argued upon(though every country in the world  aims to construct factories and buildings wherever possible, it's a global scenario). But any country which aims to be developed or achieve a decent standard of quality of life, should also consider having/achieving a thriving sporting culture as part of their goals. 

[G_B_]

5 hours ago, Gollum said:

No. 

 

Ankita-Sania lost in R1 today, after leading 6-0, 5-3 and serving for the match 

Nagal will get crushed in R2 tomorrow, against the Russian giant Medvedev (world #2, made AO final earlier this year), won't even bother checking the scoreline. 

 

Men's doubles, mixed doubles...our players missed the cut.

 

Missed many many opportunities to win tennis medals from 2000-2016 courtesy inflated egos, chokes, federation's indifference. Now future looks bleak. 

 

This is an important point in sports management. 

 

Each sport will have its ups and downs. Peas and bhupati should really have won  medal. Make hay will the sun shines and have a succession plan.

 

For india to have a decent olympic showing we need to have 30 to 40 medal prospects spread across 7 to 8 dsciplines. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Gollum]

3 hours ago, I6MTW said:

Seems like the top 3 will be decided between China, Japan and USA. That's settled.

I just hope India finished withing the top 30 this time. Would be a major improvement from last time.

You forgot ROC (Russian Olympic Committee), just 2 days, you'll see them fighting for top 3 very soon. Great Britain's events are yet to start, they too will start pushing. All depends on gold conversion, total medals mein USA will be beyond reach. 

 

Methinks 1. USA 2. China and 3rd spot up for grabs, some of the W. European countries and Aussies will complete the top 10. 

[SujitPrakash]

What a massacre by the Aussies of the Indian hockey team. Australia will finish very high up in the overall medal tally. But then again that is to be expected from the Aussies, super completive at everything they try..

[SujitPrakash]

Are living standards important in the Olympics? I don't think so, look at those African countries some would say their living standards are worse than India. Some of their athletes don't even get proper funding for their governments, but yet they do better that India.

[Gollum]

China, Japan, South Korea will finish far far ahead of India, that's for sure...top tier. But let us see which other Asian countries are ahead of us. Most of Turkey's geographical area is in Asia but they prefer to identify with Europeans in sports, so leave them aside...same with Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan.

 

Tier 2: Iran, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Chinese Taipei, no chance, they are far better. North Korea same level as these countries but not participating this time. 

 

Which leaves India, Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand, Israel, Vietnam, Qatar, Bahrain, Jordan, UAE, Singapore, Tajikistan, Mongolia, Malaysia..tier 3. Maybe missed 1-2 countries. 

 

Aim for India must be to top tier 3 in Paris 2024 and enter tier 2 in 2028 Los Angeles. By 2028 we will firmly establish ourselves as the most populous country on this planet and hopefully $5 trillion economy, we must improve by then. 

Edited July 26, 2021 by Gollum

[Gollum]

17 minutes ago, SujitPrakash said:

Are living standards important in the Olympics? I don't think so, look at those African countries some would say their living standards are worse than India. Some of their athletes don't even get proper funding for their governments, but yet they do better that India.

Many African countries are richer than India, even sub-Saharan countries. Besides countries like Kenya, Ethiopia have just one discipline, long distance running. India is better than those countries in most of the other sports, but they dominate their sport (10k, marathon etc.).

[Gollum]

38 minutes ago, SujitPrakash said:

What a massacre by the Aussies of the Indian hockey team. Australia will finish very high up in the overall medal tally. But then again that is to be expected from the Aussies, super completive at everything they try..

Why don't Indians in Australia do anything of note in sports? Lakhs or people must be living in that first world country for decades, couple of generations must have grown up just like other Aussie kids in the Aussie system. Yet we don't see Indians even in state cricket teams of Aus, or for that matter in their minnow chess team (whilst Indian origin kids at least doing that in USA and Eng). Even Lebanese Australians are represented in international sports. How about you take a look within? Don't hang on the coattails of the white Australians. And do share your explanations/analysis/conclusions to the above raised questions, maybe we could explore your findings and see if they can be beneficial to us 'lowly' Indians in India. 

Edited July 25, 2021 by Gollum

[SujitPrakash]

3 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Many African countries are richer than India, even sub-Saharan countries. Besides countries like Kenya, Ethiopia have just one discipline, long distance running. India is better than those countries in most of the other sports, but they dominate their sport (10k, marathon etc.).

 

I always am in awe of Australia, NZ etc small countries population wise, yes I know they are 1st world countries but I think the difference with them is' their completive nature.

 

Australia has many sports that they can pick from, NZ is the same only talking about these tow because I have more experience living in Australia and travelling to NZ, and they love the outdoors. 

 

I think that has something to do with it? Look at India a massive population but 95% are obsessed with cricket, hockey come a distant 2.

 

My daughters for example they are given a wide range of sports to pick from in Australia, every weekend they have to go to some competition or the other. They are encouraged in school to try different things.

 

Can India do something similar? I know that the school system in India is the same as 70 years ago, where rote learning is drilled into the kid's heads, no critical thinking is encouraged. Here my kids are encouraged to question their teaches, parents etc. 

 

Was a big surprise to me when I first travelled form India to other countries.

 

 

 

 

[SujitPrakash]

9 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Why don't Indians in Australia do anything of note in sports? Lakhs or people must be living in that first world country for decades, couple of generations must have grown up just like other Aussie kids in the Aussie system. Yet we don't see Indians even in state cricket teams of Aus, or for that matter in their minnow chess team (whilst Indian origin kids at least doing that in USA and Eng). Even Lebanese Australians are represented in international sports. How about you take a look within? Don't hang on the coattails of the white Australians. And do share your explanations/analysis/conclusions to the above raised questions, maybe we could explore your findings and see if they can be beneficial to us 'lowly' Indians in India. 

 

Because Indian parents are still stuck in the old Indian mindset, education, education, education. We need to have a well balance life.

[Gollum]

2 minutes ago, SujitPrakash said:

 

I always am in awe of Australia, NZ etc small countries population wise, yes I know they are 1st world countries but I think the difference with them is' their completive nature.

 

Australia has many sports that they can pick from, NZ is the same only talking about these tow because I have more experience living in Australia and travelling to NZ, and they love the outdoors. 

 

I think that has something to do with it? Look at India a massive population but 95% are obsessed with cricket, hockey come a distant 2.

 

My daughters for example they are given a wide range of sports to pick from in Australia, every weekend they have to go to some competition or the other. They are encouraged in school to try different things.

 

Can India do something similar? I know that the school system in India is the same as 70 years ago, where rote learning is drilled into the kid's heads, no critical thinking is encouraged. Here my kids are encouraged to question their teaches, parents etc. 

 

Was a big surprise to me when I first travelled form India to other countries.

Hope to see more prominent Indian Australians emerge bro. Our diaspora in North America and W. Europe is doing well, producing CEOs, academicians, politicians etc. But apart from Akshay Venkatesh haven't exactly seen any elite Indian Australian to emulate. In fact the only time that community was in news was in late 2000s following racist attacks, we saw lots of begging and pleads for intervention back then. Hopefully next time we hear something positive about our people in Oz. After all just like other developed countries Indians in Australia are exposed to outdoorsy culture, variety of sports, critical thinking, no rote learning etc.  

[SujitPrakash]

1 minute ago, Gollum said:

Hope to see more prominent Indian Australians emerge bro. Our diaspora in North America and W. Europe is doing well, producing CEOs, academicians, politicians etc. But apart from Akshay Venkatesh haven't exactly seen any elite Indian Australian to emulate. In fact the only time that community was in news was in late 2000s following racist attacks, we saw lots of begging and pleads for intervention back then. Hopefully next time we hear something positive about our people in Oz. After all just like other developed countries Indians in Australia are exposed to outdoorsy culture, variety of sports, critical thinking, no rote learning etc.  

 

Hope that happens as well, but like I said Indian parents are stuck in the old Indian mindset, it's not a good thing.

[Gollum]

My sleep cycle is screwed up thanks to these Olympics, Wanted a good night's sleep, got up at 3 am. Don't have high hopes but main chwtiya hoon, will open SonyLIV at 6 am for the archery team.