rangeelaraja Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) This might sound superstitious - but I am only judging the body language and news. Ashwin feels terribly let down by Kohli in his career. I’ve noticed the cold vibes that he has had for Kohli for a while - much different from when he used to publicly back Kohli, I remember how he attacked Jimmy ANderson to stand up for Kohli. In return he has got what he calls “ deliberate efforts” to make in insecure. We could see it in the warm up against Aus. Ashwin was looking at everyone exchanging high fives to celebrate his wickets - he was not interested in maintaining eye contact with Kohli. Even today, Ashwin looked aloof in the team, miffed at despite being a legend, his career is being toyed around by a tyrannical selfish captain who is clueless. The dressing room is not a happy/secure one. A dressing room that is a not a happy/secure place does not produce results. We all know the culprit. But Ganguly is a gutless / useless administrator. Edited October 24, 2021 by rangeelaraja SRT100, sorak, Under_Score and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Kohli insulted Ashwin in the IPL after mankading incident. Remember? There is some undercurrent. I am not sure he is even happy with Ashwin's selection over Chahal. SRT100 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Where did get that information. Ashwin does not deserve to be in this team nor he deserved to be in the team in England. If he was/is aloof it was his problem. Link to comment
rangeelaraja Posted October 24, 2021 Author Share Posted October 24, 2021 Just now, vvvslaxman said: Kohli insulted Ashwin in the IPL after mankading incident. Remember? There is some undercurrent. I am not sure he is even happy with Ashwin's selection over Chahal. Kohli is a shameless hypocrite. Non stop BC MC in front of hundreds of millions of kids and women watching on TV is fine , but preach ethics to others. Ashwin has a heat of a lion. I feel very bad about how he is being humiliated like this. Chahal has already proven he doesn’t belong to international cricket. He has sucked up to Virat with “ Virat Bhaiya, Virat Bhaiyya” to find a spot in the XI. I don’t blame Chahal, there is only one culprit, only one cancer in the team, that is costing us immensely. Under_Score, nitinbwj and SRT100 2 1 Link to comment
rangeelaraja Posted October 24, 2021 Author Share Posted October 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, putrevus said: Where did get that information. Ashwin does not deserve to be in this team nor he deserved to be in the team in England. If he was/is aloof it was his problem. Did you watch the highlights against Aus ? Varun brings nothing with the bat, and for a younger lad, he is remarkably unathletic and below average in the field. So who else deserves to be ahead of Ashwin as a T20 spinner ? Pls bring on recent stats. Under_Score and nitinbwj 1 1 Link to comment
rangeelaraja Posted October 24, 2021 Author Share Posted October 24, 2021 Kohli expects sycophancy towards him in the dressing room and players who don’t are made to feel insecure and unsure. That is the reality. Under_Score and Sunil_narine024 2 Link to comment
putrevus Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said: Did you watch the highlights against Aus ? Varun brings nothing with the bat, and for a younger lad, he is remarkably unathletic and below average in the field. So who else deserves to be ahead of Ashwin as a T20 spinner ? Pls bring on recent stats. Varun was selected for his xfactor, if fails , he will be gone forever.Don't make his selection as a mistake. Ashwin is not going win any matches on his own either but Varun might against some teams. Another younger fast bowler should have been in the team in place of Ashwin .Who is just a waste of spot. If he is sulking then he should be kicked out in middle of the tournament and sent home.It is not TM's fault that they cannot fit him into the team. BTW why the hell will Ashwin curse, he was rightly not selected for all those matches. he has no reason for any gripe. Edited October 24, 2021 by putrevus Link to comment
rangeelaraja Posted October 24, 2021 Author Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, putrevus said: Varun was selected for his xfactor, if fails , he will be gone forever.Don't make his selection as a mistake. Ashwin is not going win any matches on his own either but Varun might against some teams. Another younger fast bowler should have been in the team in place of Ashwin .Who is just a waste of spot. If he is sulking then he should be kicked out in middle of the tournament and sent home.It is not TM's fault that they cannot fit him into the team. You did not answer the question anyway. Which other T20 spinner from India can win matches “on his own “ and why should they be ahead of Ashwin based on recent performances ? The so called “X-factor” is a bloody myth in this day and age of technology where everything that he does with his wrists and actions can be seen before hand and debriefed by the tech/data analytics members of the team staff Edited October 24, 2021 by rangeelaraja Under_Score 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Kohlis each behavior is either driven by ego or PR reasons He will act all macho against OZ and England. But zero aggression against Pak or NZ. Link to comment
putrevus Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said: You did not answer the question anyway. Which other T20 spinner from India can win matches “on his own “ and why should they be ahead of Ashwin based on recent performances ? The so called “X-factor” is a bloody myth in this day and age of technology where everything that he does with his wrists and actions can be seen before hand and debriefed by the tech/data analytics members of the team staff It is not a myth, VC has potential to win matches and that should be good enough reason for his selection. I told you Ashwin did not deserve to be in team another fast bowler should have been selected.All the spinners selected in the squad were enough. Ashwin has no business to be in the team. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, putrevus said: It is not a myth, VC has potential to win matches and that should be good enough reason for his selection. I told you Ashwin did not deserve to be in team another fast bowler should have been selected.All the spinners selected in the squad were enough. Ashwin has no business to be in the team. Potential to win match for KKR with Narine in the side. That doesn't mean he will do it for India.. He gor his ass kicked in warm up where Ashwin took two wickets inside powerplay. . rangeelaraja 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Potential to win match for KKR with Narine in the side. That doesn't mean he will do it for India.. He gor his ass kicked in warm up where Ashwin took two wickets inside powerplay. . Who cares what Ashwin did in warm up matches. Ashwin at this stage of his career cannot do anything different or be difference maker.VC on other hand has a chance to do very well atleast against certain teams.If he continues to flop he will be out other spinners will take his spot.There is no room for Ashwin in any playing eleven anyways so why waste a spot for him. Edited October 24, 2021 by putrevus Link to comment
cricketfan28 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 in that case this is a much needed loss, team will unite after this. Link to comment
rangeelaraja Posted October 24, 2021 Author Share Posted October 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, putrevus said: Who cares what Ashwin did in warm up matches. Ashwin at this stage of his career cannot do anything different or be difference maker.VC on other hand has a chance to do very well atleast against certain teams.If he continues to flop he will be out other spinners will take his spot.There is no room for Ashwin in any playing eleven anyways so why waste a spot for him. Your problem is when asked, you don’t have one worthy replacement of Ashwin to name in terms of merit or recent consistent performances. Yet it doesn’t stop you from a one track rant against how “useless” Ashwin is Under_Score 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 minute ago, rangeelaraja said: Your problem is when asked, you don’t have one worthy replacement of Ashwin to name in terms of merit or recent consistent performances. Yet it doesn’t stop you from a one track rant against how “useless” Ashwin is Why should Ashwin be replaced with another spinner .You are not understanding that simple thing and you going on and on about consistent performances and all that nonsense . This squad has already enough spinners which includes VC it does not matter what their recent performances are in IPL. Ashwin was not selected because he lit up IPL with his performances . VC might not pick up a wicket in all matches he plays but his selection over Ashwin is still the right one as he is different.Ashwin had his chances , it is time to move on from him. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, putrevus said: Who cares what Ashwin did in warm up matches. Ashwin at this stage of his career cannot do anything different or be difference maker.VC on other hand has a chance to do very well atleast against certain teams.If he continues to flop he will be out other spinners will take his spot.There is no room for Ashwin in any playing eleven anyways so why waste a spot for him. We care lol. IF he performs poorer than washed up Ashwin then what does that tell about him. Link to comment
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