express bowling Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, SRT100 said: Can you select the team which you would want if you had freedom, assumption is Hitman is captain. ODIs .... 1. Kishan / Venkatesh 2. Rohit ( C ) / Kohli ( if Rohit is unfit ) 3. Shaw / Venkatesh 4. Pant ( WK ) / Kishan 5. Rahul / SKY 6. Hardik / Shardul 7. Jadeja / Axar 8. Deepak / Shardul 9. Bishnoi / Washington. 10. Bumrah / Siraj 11. Prasidh / Siraj .... I have given a backup for every slot, to cover for injuries or loss of form .... Want 2 dashing players in the top 3 .. and 1 test quality batsman who can accelerate later. .... Alternate between right handed batters and left handed batters as much as possible to upset the bowlers' rhythms. .... Fill the team with stroke players till 8. .... Have atleast 2 proper quick bowlers .... Play 2 among Bumrah, Prasidh and Siraj .. by rotation. .... 6 bowling options. .... Play Hardik only if he can bowl. .... If Hardik can't play then bat Jadeja at 6 and Shardul at 7. Edited January 28, 2022 by express bowling Mosher, Vijy, BacktoCricaddict and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
Majestic Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 With a top 4 of Rohit, Dhawan, Kohli and Rahul, the best bet remains that we play with six bowlers. There is no point making imaginary XI where some day Ruturaj opens with Shaw and other days Kishan opens with Rohit. Some would even throw a few other names in that too. The thing here is that youngsters once they get more responsibility they also start playing safe and percentage cricket. Look at what Pant did in Delhi Capitals after becoming captain, these are norms in Indian setup. More responsibility means taking less cricket and playing safer cricket. Link to comment
Sooda Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) A good experimental 11/16 would have been Rohit Kishan Gaekwad KL SKY Sundar D Chahar Harshal Axar Avesh Prasidh Markande, Sakariya, Pant, V Iyer, Siraj, S Iyer Edited January 29, 2022 by Sooda Link to comment
Majestic Posted January 29, 2022 Author Share Posted January 29, 2022 16 hours ago, JaFanatic said: Is it the XI you expect from our TM or you "want" to see on field? I would personally be disappointed to see all accumulator top 5 though. Combination of both. But then what you do? You pick accumulators at 6, 7 and 8? Sundar's best bet is to bat at 5 and gives us 6-7 overs. He is not a 10 overs bowlers and if you just don't pick him, the tail starts at 8 then. Pant, Shardul and Deepak enough hitting there considering you want to go with six bowlers. Link to comment
Majestic Posted January 29, 2022 Author Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Sooda said: A good experimental 11/16 would have been Rohit Kishan Gaekwad KL SKY Sundar D Chahar Harshal Axar Avesh Prasidh Markande, Sakariya, Pant, V Iyer, Siraj, S Iyer Harshal and Axar are not in ODI squad. If we don't pick Sundar, then we have to play both Shardul and Deepak or else we will be left with tail of Kulcha and Siraj-Prasidh. Link to comment
Majestic Posted January 29, 2022 Author Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) With the squad that is picked, I only see my XI as the best possible solution considering that 1. You want a sixth bowler 2. You want a capable hitter till 8. Edited January 29, 2022 by Majestic Link to comment
SRT100 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 10 hours ago, express bowling said: ODIs .... 1. Kishan / Venkatesh 2. Rohit ( C ) / Kohli ( if Rohit is unfit ) 3. Shaw / Venkatesh 4. Pant ( WK ) / Kishan 5. Rahul / SKY 6. Hardik / Shardul 7. Jadeja / Axar 8. Deepak / Shardul 9. Bishnoi / Washington. 10. Bumrah / Siraj 11. Prasidh / Siraj .... I have given a backup for every slot, to cover for injuries or loss of form .... Want 2 dashing players in the top 3 .. and 1 test quality batsman who can accelerate later. .... Alternate between right handed batters and left handed batters as much as possible to upset the bowlers' rhythms. .... Fill the team with stroke players till 8. .... Have atleast 2 proper quick bowlers .... Play 2 among Bumrah, Prasidh and Siraj .. by rotation. .... 6 bowling options. .... Play Hardik only if he can bowl. .... If Hardik can't play then bat Jadeja at 6 and Shardul at 7. This is beautiful. Its the equivalent of cricket porn. Picking the best players that India could select to not only win games but to win an ICC event. It would make me and a billion other Indians follow this team and follow it passionately. I dont even have an issue with Kohli selected if Hitman is injured as his role would be to captain, lead and anchor if required. Applauds here. I agree. I love the Left and Right batsmen. Not enough merit is paid to this need. The lineup batting deep is sexy as hell. India lose 4 early wickets like the 2019 WC and we can still win matches with this lineup. Shardul and Washington can lead the team to a win or a par score, batting wise at 8 and 9. 6 bowling options is hot as hell, it goes to 8 if Venkatesh and SKY bowl. However your line up is foolish and comical. The BCCI will never allow this, because the captain, coach, TM due to nepotism is ruining Indian Cricket. @express bowling can you please tell me why the Indian commentators do NOT support your team???? Why is this case? How come yourself, me and many on here see the merits of your selection and not the BCCI? How come the Mother Country, India is not the first and only priority? Vijy and express bowling 2 Link to comment
SRT100 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 16 hours ago, anish2tweet said: U need one accumulator and that is Dhawan. Kohli is class, his form is temporary. Sent from my CPH1819 using Tapatalk This is the most asinine comment on here. Kohli's form is not temporary, it is on a further downward decline trajectory. If anything it will even become a further liability with his use of DRS where India loses its reviews and accumulates a lot of balls for very few runs. Kohli can play sure when Hitman is injured but his days are done in terms of playing a match winning innings on a regular basis. express bowling and Vijy 2 Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 14 hours ago, sandeep said: Reality is that apart from occasional beatings in bilaterals, cricket in ODIs is not competitive enough to force Indian team to bear the consequences of sub-optimal batting tactics. We'll still manage to win more often than we lose in useless ODI games and series, and infantile idiots who don't understand what's going on will "defend" Virat or whoever is captain, by citing "winning percentage". Only way to force a change in tactics and selection is losses. repeated ones. If there is no new batsman as opener in the Windies ODI series, I'll probably end up having to wish for Indian loss so that we get the changes we need if we are to have any realistic chance for ODI WC victory in home conditions. yes, bilaterals these days have mostly lost their meaning, at least for me personally. I was much more invested in bilaterals in 80s, 90s and up to 00s. these days, they just feel like opportunities to score quick and easy victories, stat pad, and not experiment as much as one could/should SRT100 and Suhaan 1 1 Link to comment
SRT100 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, Vijy said: yes, bilaterals these days have mostly lost their meaning, at least for me personally. I was much more invested in bilaterals in 80s, 90s and up to 00s. these days, they just feel like opportunities to score quick and easy victories, stat pad, and not experiment as much as one could/should I think bilaterals meant more in previous era's because the ICC tournaments were very few and far apart. Now there is in a COVID free world, ICC tournaments every 2 years so the importance is always there. Stat pads should be given to the kids of the team to give them confidence, not to old players so that they remain a permanent fixture in the side. Dhawan and Kohli scoring well in the WI and Sri Lankan series will be the worst thing that can happen to Indian cricket for the next year. We need them to fail for India to move on. Vijy 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 11 hours ago, express bowling said: ODIs .... 1. Kishan / Venkatesh 2. Rohit ( C ) / Kohli ( if Rohit is unfit ) 3. Shaw / Venkatesh 4. Pant ( WK ) / Kishan 5. Rahul / SKY 6. Hardik / Shardul 7. Jadeja / Axar 8. Deepak / Shardul 9. Bishnoi / Washington. 10. Bumrah / Siraj 11. Prasidh / Siraj .... I have given a backup for every slot, to cover for injuries or loss of form .... Want 2 dashing players in the top 3 .. and 1 test quality batsman who can accelerate later. .... Alternate between right handed batters and left handed batters as much as possible to upset the bowlers' rhythms. .... Fill the team with stroke players till 8. .... Have atleast 2 proper quick bowlers .... Play 2 among Bumrah, Prasidh and Siraj .. by rotation. .... 6 bowling options. .... Play Hardik only if he can bowl. .... If Hardik can't play then bat Jadeja at 6 and Shardul at 7. my own lineup would look very similar, albeit with some minor differences Pant/Kishan (wk) Shaw/Kishan/V. Iyer Rohit/Gill --> one accumulator is fine Gaekwad/Brat/Gill --> Gaekwad can score at 100 SR when settled and plays spin well [Brat should be chosen only if he can return to scoring at near-100 SR as he could at peak] Rahul/SKY Hardik/Sundar/Jaddu/V. Iyer Deepak/Shardul Axar/Jaddu Markande/Bishnoi/Kuldeep [a better fit would have been Gopal, who can bat well too; but he is completely out of form] Bumrah/Siraj Prasidh/Shami/Siraj batting till 9, 6 bowling options, potentially even 7 in some contexts. openers are all-out explosive. #3 and #4 are somewhat tuk-tuk but on good days they can accelerate and score at 100 SR. Nos. 5 to 9 are quite fast scoring as well. I want to see markande get some chances - I feel based on VHT that bishnoi is not yet there in 50 over cricket, whereas markande has been doing well for a while. lastly, for big tourneys, I want shami in the mix - even with reduced pace, he can still find ways to get wkts. SRT100 and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment
Sooda Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 12 hours ago, Majestic said: Harshal and Axar are not in ODI squad. If we don't pick Sundar, then we have to play both Shardul and Deepak or else we will be left with tail of Kulcha and Siraj-Prasidh. Yeah I know, that was just what a good theoretical experimental squad could have been Link to comment
deepdynamo Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Rahul Dravid will give Pant prolong chances at No.4 and with all seniors undroppable, brace for this top 5 until WC 2023. Dhawan Rohit Kohli Pant Rahul No. 6 would ideal be a proper batsman who can bowl. Sky, S Iyer can't do that. Pandya and Jadeja can round the top 7 for India. Link to comment
anish2tweet Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Rahul Dravid will give Pant prolong chances at No.4 and with all seniors undroppable, brace for this top 5 until WC 2023. Dhawan Rohit Kohli Pant Rahul No. 6 would ideal be a proper batsman who can bowl. Sky, S Iyer can't do that. Pandya and Jadeja can round the top 7 for India. Only Sundar fits the billSent from my CPH1819 using Tapatalk Link to comment
zen Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 My 11, one that I will sign up to watch (to see how badly they can do) Rohit Dhawan Kohli KL wk S Iyer Jadeja Thakur D Chahar Harshal Ashwin Bumrah 5 steady batsmen Thakur & D Chahar can tonk the ball 6 bowlers with 2 experienced spinners Batting till #10 Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 hours ago, zen said: My 11, one that I will sign up to watch (to see how badly they can do) Rohit Dhawan Kohli KL wk S Iyer Jadeja Thakur D Chahar Harshal Ashwin Bumrah 5 steady batsmen Thakur & D Chahar can tonk the ball 6 bowlers with 2 experienced spinners Batting till #10 you should add boobi in lieu of boomrah. batting till 11 then :P Link to comment
Majestic Posted January 30, 2022 Author Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, anish2tweet said: Only Sundar fits the bill Sent from my CPH1819 using Tapatalk What India needs is someone who can bowl like Sundar and bat like Pandya at 6? How do we get that? Edited January 30, 2022 by Majestic Link to comment
anish2tweet Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 What India needs is someone who can bowl like Sundar and bat like Pandya at 6? How do we get that? If wishes were horses..Sent from my CPH1819 using Tapatalk Link to comment
anish2tweet Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 What India needs is someone who can bowl like Sundar and bat like Pandya at 6? How do we get that? Jaddu and Pandya are not there unfortunately. What Dravid said is true. Just imagine the balance we would get.Sent from my CPH1819 using Tapatalk Link to comment
zen Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 8 hours ago, Vijy said: you should add boobi in lieu of boomrah. batting till 11 then :P Reading such 11s make me want to Vijy 1 Link to comment
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