Lower order boundary count (8-11 batting pos) against Major countries

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, Jay said:

Pace like fire. Bounce like fire.

sunne men bahut acha lagta hai

bina execution ke pace like fire travels like tracer bullet to boundaries

[Jay]

2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

didnt knew ur aim is just to be better the pakistan , very poor aim 

Not just Pakistan. We have the best bowling talents in the world. Period. 

[Jay]

2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

sunne men bahut acha lagta hai

bina execution ke pace like fire travels like tracer bullet to boundaries

We won't know till all 4 play. 4 pronged beast like attack. 8 we can have mohsin who can bat a bit. 

 

Every Test match we lost recently had a 4 man pace attack. 

 

SA had Jansen Olivier ngidi rabada. We got *ed over. 

 

Then in n.z back in 2021 and final of wtc. 4 pronged attack. We got rolled over. 

 

We should do the same. 4 pronged pace attack. Steep bounce plus pace like fire. 

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[Jay]

2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

haha thats ur prove 

Why hide long sleeve. Actually his own country man pointed out he is chucking. Want me to find the link? 

[Jay]

2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

haha thats ur prove 

Why hide long sleeve. Actually his own country man pointed out he is chucking. Want me to find the link? 

https://cricxtasy.com/social-media-reactions/former-pakistan-great-questions-shaheen-afridis-bowling/cid7006910.htm

 

Their great nawaz himself questioned it.

 

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[Ankit_sharma03]

17 minutes ago, Jay said:

Why hide long sleeve. Actually his own country man pointed out he is chucking. Want me to find the link? 

https://cricxtasy.com/social-media-reactions/former-pakistan-great-questions-shaheen-afridis-bowling/cid7006910.htm

 

Their great nawaz himself questioned it.

 

The great nawaz who said every match fixed 

The great nawaz who said he turned ishant into. 150k bowler in 3 days magically 

 

Hahahaha

 

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

21 minutes ago, Jay said:

We won't know till all 4 play. 4 pronged beast like attack. 8 we can have mohsin who can bat a bit. 

 

Every Test match we lost recently had a 4 man pace attack. 

 

SA had Jansen Olivier ngidi rabada. We got *ed over. 

 

Then in n.z back in 2021 and final of wtc. 4 pronged attack. We got rolled over. 

 

We should do the same. 4 pronged pace attack. Steep bounce plus pace like fire. 

Ya t20 ki baat karlo ya test match ki 

[Ankit_sharma03]

22 minutes ago, Jay said:

Not just Pakistan. We have the best bowling talents in the world. Period. 

Talent and skillset are two different things 

Our youngster lack white ball bowling skillset specially the ones who clock good speed.

[Jay]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

The great nawaz who said every match fixed 

The great nawaz who said he turned ishant into. 150k bowler in 3 days magically 

 

Hahahaha

 

 

 

Ishant did bowl 150 in 2007-2009 time frame. 

 

Lots of Pakistani matches are fixed. 

 

Amir also said lot ofnthem age fudge by 5 - 7 years. 

 

These are all cold hard truths. 

 

Shaheen is a chucking fodder. 

[Jay]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Talent and skillset are two different things 

Our youngster lack white ball bowling skillset specially the ones who clock good speed.

Don't care. Play them regardless. We don't want to see trundlers. Pace with bounce is key. Always choose that.

[Jay]

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Ya t20 ki baat karlo ya test match ki 

Same thing applies in all formats. Hard lengths. Bounce. Pace. That's it. 

 

Swing seam all this **** can be learnt later. 

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, Jay said:

Ishant did bowl 150 in 2007-2009 time frame. 

 

Lots of Pakistani matches are fixed. 

 

Amir also said lot ofnthem age fudge by 5 - 7 years. 

 

These are all cold hard truths. 

 

Shaheen is a chucking fodder. 

I know he did im laughing at his claim that he made him a 150 bowler in 3 days 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, Jay said:

Ishant did bowl 150 in 2007-2009 time frame. 

 

Lots of Pakistani matches are fixed. 

 

Amir also said lot ofnthem age fudge by 5 - 7 years. 

 

These are all cold hard truths. 

 

Shaheen is a chucking fodder. 

I know he did im laughing at his claim that he made him a 150 bowler in 3 days 

 

[singhvivek141]

On 9/18/2022 at 6:00 PM, Ankit_sharma03 said:

We ll be lucky to find a bowler like shaheen 

TBH, Shaheen has pretty ordinary record in Tests when we compare across SENA countries.
In SA he has done decently, but he is garbage in other 3. 
Even in ODI's remove the matches against bangladesh and Afghanistan and his stats will come down.

It's only T20's where he shines because he is good with the new ball and bowls 50% to 75% of his overs upfront. Not a bad thing but it's a limitation which can't be ignored.

[Ankit_sharma03]

16 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

TBH, Shaheen has pretty ordinary record in Tests when we compare across SENA countries.
In SA he has done decently, but he is garbage in other 3. 
Even in ODI's remove the matches against bangladesh and Afghanistan and his stats will come down.

It's only T20's where he shines because he is good with the new ball and bowls 50% to 75% of his overs upfront. Not a bad thing but it's a limitation which can't be ignored.

Despite that record of his we ll be lucky to have him coz he is better then any left armer we have and a runaway match winner. Every bowler has some area of concern , like all our youngster have. Infact any team will be lucky to have coz of what he offers wkts with new ball. Any bowlers numbers n avg change depending on the unit he Bowls in

[nitinbwj]

On 9/18/2022 at 6:13 AM, MultiB48 said:

Ashwin has a Sr of 116 , what's the point of the boundaries then.

Not recently. He has upped his power game. 

[nitinbwj]

Bhuvi is a disgrace. He doesn't even want to bat. He is worse than a tailender. 

[vvvslaxman]

It is easy to be an all rounder in T20. You don't exert yourself too much. I understand guys like Bumrah not being able to focus on batting given that he plays all 3 formats also IPL. But still he finds time to improve his batting.  Same with Shami. Atleast two formats he plays plus IPL. Other fast bowlers should be able to improve their fielding, batting. Fielding is terrible from all our fast bowlers bar Umesh.

[singhvivek141]

38 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

It is easy to be an all rounder in T20. You don't exert yourself too much. I understand guys like Bumrah not being able to focus on batting given that he plays all 3 formats also IPL. But still he finds time to improve his batting.  Same with Shami. Atleast two formats he plays plus IPL. Other fast bowlers should be able to improve their fielding, batting. Fielding is terrible from all our fast bowlers bar Umesh.

True, even contributions of 8-9 runs in 5-6 balls by the tailenders matter a lot in T20's. 

Bumrah has worked hard on his batting and he is much improved than what he used to be, Umesh and Shami can slog big shots.