Starc- Hazelwood numbers against India-South Africa- England-New Zealand in T20I and T20 Wcs

[Ankit_sharma03]

His overall numbers 

 

Matches -54 games

Wkts- 70 

Eco 7.61

Avg - 22.39

S/r - 17.57

 

His numbers vs India- SA-NZ- England 

 

Matches -20

Wkts - 19

Eco - 8.10

Avg - 30.6

S/r - 22.7 

 

His numbers vs India- SA-NZ- England in T20 Wc

 

Matches - 6

Wkts - 4

Eco - 9.65

Avg -55.5

S/r - 34.5 

 

 

 

Edited October 20, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03

[zen]

The point? 

[vvvslaxman]

What is the difference between 2nd and third? 

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

What is the difference between 2nd and third? 

3rd is in T20 Wc , just corrected it

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

3rd is in T20 Wc , just corrected it

 

Starc is one left arm seamer India has played better.  If Starc can bring the ball back in he would also trigger top order collapse against us.

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Starc is one left arm seamer India has played better.  If Starc can bring the ball back in he would also trigger top order collapse against us.

He can bring the ball back in and has troubled teams like SL- WI- Pak  but he doesnt get that big curve like which aamir, shaheen or boult got even madhushanka now gets. With that movement most right handers will be in trouble and we have fallen under pressure of knockout games so that has proven out to be a deadly combo. 

 

Actually not just us all these teams have played better. If u check last final WC final scorecard against NZ he almost screwed the game for AUS . I think in Semis fakhar bashed him  . In 2014 wc semi final it was yuvraj singh who bashed him

[kohli]

2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

He can bring the ball back in and has troubled teams like SL- WI- Pak  but he doesnt get that big curve like which aamir, shaheen or boult got even madhushanka now gets. With that movement most right handers will be in trouble and we have fallen under pressure of knockout games so that has proven out to be a deadly combo. 

 

Actually not just us all these teams have played better. If u check last final WC final scorecard against NZ he almost screwed the game for AUS . I think in Semis fakhar bashed him  . In 2014 wc semi final it was yuvraj singh who bashed him

In which sf yuvraj bashed strac?

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, BlueBlood said:

Starc is a wicket taking bowler as Hazelwood is the container.

 

You will see this in the line and length he bows it compared to Hazlewood.

 

I would say 50% of wickets Hazelwood gets is because of Starc in the other end.

 

They complement each other this way.

 

You bringing your nonsense stats once again misses one key thing. If Starc bowling at pace is not there, AUS would have a one-dimensional pace attack with Cummins and Hazelwood.

 

The problem Starc has had is death overs bowling. But that's been the issue for all death overs specialists in the past 5 years in T20 - even guys like Boult, Shaheen etc. get hammered in the death. It's an unforgiving game when teams have 6-7 wickets in hand and just go for it in the last 2-3 overs.

 

Bumrah, Shami, Bhuvi, and even Arshdeep if you put the same amount of games you will see similar stats due to death overs.

 

This is why guys like Chahar who bowl all 4 overs on the trot are stat padders as their ECO looks great but they never bowl the death overs which is the toughest job to do.

 

In T20 Zampa is the king against India. Cummins, Hazlewood, Starc they were all taken apart. Trunder like Berhendoff did more damage than these 3. It doesn't matter whether they play together and separately.

[Ankit_sharma03]

15 hours ago, kohli said:

In which sf yuvraj bashed strac?

2014 t20 Wc semi

[Ankit_sharma03]

16 hours ago, BlueBlood said:

I would say 50% of wickets Hazelwood gets is because of Starc in the other end.

 

They complement each other this way.

how ?? Hazelwood is the one who is keeping pressure

 

16 hours ago, BlueBlood said:

The problem Starc has had is death overs bowling. But that's been the issue for all death overs specialists in the past 5 years in T20 - even guys like Boult, Shaheen etc. get hammered in the death. It's an unforgiving game when teams have 6-7 wickets in hand and just go for it in the last 2-3 overs.

 

 

boult n shaheen are not good in death 

 

16 hours ago, BlueBlood said:

Bumrah, Shami, Bhuvi, and even Arshdeep if you put the same amount of games you will see similar stats due to death overs.

 

shami is not even a t20 bowler

16 hours ago, BlueBlood said:

This is why guys like Chahar who bowl all 4 overs on the trot are stat padders as their ECO looks great but they never bowl the death overs which is the toughest job to do.

4 overs on trot not anymore, he bowls 1 in death 

[express bowling]

Where is Pakistsn in the list of opponents ?

 

Even WI has had good T20I teams, although not this year. But Starc's career spans a decade.

Edited October 14, 2022 by express bowling

[Nikhil_cric]

14 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

He can bring the ball back in and has troubled teams like SL- WI- Pak  but he doesnt get that big curve like which aamir, shaheen or boult got even madhushanka now gets. With that movement most right handers will be in trouble and we have fallen under pressure of knockout games so that has proven out to be a deadly combo. 

 

Actually not just us all these teams have played better. If u check last final WC final scorecard against NZ he almost screwed the game for AUS . I think in Semis fakhar bashed him  . In 2014 wc semi final it was yuvraj singh who bashed him

Starc never got massive inswing like those guys but what he could do at his peak was swing it in enough at extremely high speeds. The speeds have been down for 18 months , so he is not as much of a white ball threat anymore. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, express bowling said:

Where is Pakistsn in the list of opponents ?

 

Even WI has had good T20I teams, although not this year. But Starc's career spans a decade.

not good players of fast bowling . Even in their best years WI were never good against genuine pace or even their top players like Gayle, russell, pollard . 

These are numbers of starc whole career im not talking about just this year

 

Teams like Ind-SA-ENG- NZ play pace well so real test comes against them 

 

While looking for batting numbers u can look at teams like SL-Pakistan since they have good bowling attacks 

 

still u asked

 

Against WI - His avg is 25 , eco is 8.78 ( so these are just ok numbers ) .

Actually these numbers just got better in 2022 when WI have their worst batting if not for this yr his numbers wud have been in poor category . So its 2022 WI side that saves his number that to just 2 games 

Before 2022 against WI - avg was 36 and eco 9.09 (not at all good)

 

 

Against Pakistan- His avg is 14.3 , Eco 6.26 ..................Its pakistan where his numbers get good and they do not play pace well 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 14, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Starc never got massive inswing like those guys but what he could do at his peak was swing it in enough at extremely high speeds. The speeds have been down for 18 months , so he is not as much of a white ball threat anymore. 

 

 

Whats his pace in last 2 yrs ??? 

I dont think his pace has gone down that much but its his execution of yorkers that has . Pace may have gone down 5k but that will happen at latter stage of career which is where one needs to develop variations 

[Nikhil_cric]

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

 

Whats his pace in last 2 yrs ??? 

I dont think his pace has gone down that much but its his execution of yorkers that has . Pace may have gone down 5k but that will happen at latter stage of career which is where one needs to develop variations 

Pave decline of 5ks is actually massive. I don't think he bowled anything above 145 kph today. Back in 2015, he was pushing 155 kph. 

[express bowling]

8 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

not good players of fast bowling . Even in their best years WI were never good against genuine pace or even their top players like Gayle, russell, pollard . 

These are numbers of starc whole career im not talking about just this year

 

Teams like Ind-SA-ENG- NZ play pace well so real test comes against them 

 

While looking for batting numbers u can look at teams like SL-Pakistan since they have good bowling attacks 

 

still u asked

 

Against WI - His avg is 25 , eco is 8.78 ( so these are just ok numbers ) .

Actually these numbers just got better in 2022 when WI have their worst batting if not for this yr his numbers wud have been in poor category . So its 2022 WI side that saves his number that to just 2 games 

Before 2022 against WI - avg was 36 and eco 9.09 (not at all good)

 

 

Against Pakistan- His avg is 14.3 , Eco 6.26 ..................Its pakistan where his numbers get good and they do not play pace well 

 

 

 

 

One has to choose the good teams if some sub-classification has to be made of stats.

 

 

[express bowling]

3 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Pave decline of 5ks is actually massive. I don't think he bowled anything above 145 kph today. Back in 2015, he was pushing 155 kph. 

 

 

Throughout his career, Starc rarely bowled anything above 150 k or 151 k in most matches. But he bowled lots of 145 k to 150 k balls.

 

And even in last year's T20 WC, he was in the 138 k to 148 k range. Bowled quick in the Ashes too and hit high 140s. 

 

 

 

 

 

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[kohli]

9 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

2014 t20 Wc semi

It was super 10 match. In sf Ind played against South Africa.

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

 

IF you add NZ to hazelwood numbers it still doesnt improve much 

avg 31

eco. 9.19

 

But his numbers in Wc are good