The Ashes 2023

[Kothili]

Rohit's buffet rival did not get his Ton. Lol. About the only silver lining in this super shoddy performance.

[vvvslaxman]

Australia was unnecessarily indulging in bouncer battle against Anderson. Atleast twice Anderson took bye off a bouncer. Both overs cost them badly.

[putrevus]

Just now, MechEng said:

 

It's a mental battle really. England's approach is to unsettle the opponent by scoring rapidly, but the game changer for the opposing side is if they deviate from their originally game out of pressure or stick to it by showing the nerves of steel? Australia has massively deviated from their original playing style here.

 

 

 

 

You cannot score 600 runs without having quality against a very talented Aussies bowling attack.I don't think any other team has better fast bowling attack than Aussies.

 

[Bigg Brother]

Smith really needs to play great innings here. If there is one player in world who is capable of bailing his team out after 275 runs deficit, then it's Smith. He is capable of frustrating shyte out of fielding team.

[rageaddict]

Shame Bairstow didn't get his ton, he deserved to. Had no need to go for a double early in the over, could have backed himself to hit a Big One later. Bad Luck.

[Vijy]

Just now, Bigg Brother said:

Smith really needs to play great innings here. If there is one player in world who is capable of bailing his team out after 275 runs deficit, then it's Smith. He is capable of frustrating shyte out of fielding team.

not when he's declining.

[putrevus]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Pant played very well in Australi against a better Aussie attack that had Lyon back to back. 

One single player doing vs whole team doing it .

 

You cannot compare between those two.

[wazza]

15 minutes ago, putrevus said:

You think good legspinners can produced just like that? It would help if teams have four  Marshalls and Garners too to counteract Bazball.

Correct. You can't have one good bowler in Cummins doing all the work. Rest are trash. 

 

India under arun were deadly as a combo with bumrah ishant and shami and then ash etc. 

 

Only true goat attack is w.indies of 80s although they cheated by over stepping alot. 

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, putrevus said:

You cannot score 600 runs without having quality against a very talented Aussies bowling attack.I don't think any other team has better fast bowling attack than Aussies.

 

 

Australian bowling attack is one-dimensional. There is a reason why they have lost 4 test series in a row against a rubbish batting unit like ours.

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, putrevus said:

One single player doing vs whole team doing it .

 

You cannot compare between those two.

 

Well they did struggle to get Vihari, Ashwin, Sundar, Thakur out with their full might even in their fortress. Their bowling is discipline and condition based.

[MechEng]

Just now, putrevus said:

One single player doing vs whole team doing it .

 

You cannot compare between those two.

 

But that was in Australia with totally different conditions. Not sure if England will be able to clear big Aussie boundaries with airy hits consistently.

[Vijy]

1 minute ago, wazza said:

Correct. You can't have one good bowler in Cummins doing all the work. Rest are trash. 

 

India under arun were deadly as a combo with bumrah ishant and shami and then ash etc. 

 

Only true goat attack is w.indies of 80s although they cheated by over stepping alot. 

also umesh at home and boobi in select tests.

[wazza]

14 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Never seen Cummins treated like this in any test 23 overs 125 runs plus 8 byes that should have been against him

He is good but no support. Aus attack is overrated. Only one good bowler. 

 

It's number 3 for me after S.africa and india

[MechEng]

3 minutes ago, putrevus said:

You cannot score 600 runs without having quality against a very talented Aussies bowling attack.I don't think any other team has better fast bowling attack than Aussies.

 

 

Not exactly bazball, but Shikhar Dhawan in his debut test and Dhoni plundered that Aussie attack in Chennai. Australia mein kuch nahin ukhaad paye dono

[putrevus]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

Australia was unnecessarily indulging in bouncer battle against Anderson. Atleast twice Anderson took bye off a bouncer. Both overs cost them badly.

When you are getting bombarded from word go, you tend to lose it.

 

They scored 600 runs in 107 overs, I have never seen this kind of batting by any team.

[Vijy]

Just now, wazza said:

He is good but no support. Aus attack is overrated. Only one good bowler. 

 

It's number 3 for me after S.africa and india

imagine shardul-undercutter-mukesh vs this eng lineup. aus is much better

[wazza]

6 minutes ago, putrevus said:

One single player doing vs whole team doing it .

 

You cannot compare between those two.

Our batting is basically pant and maybe jaddu. That's it. 

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, MechEng said:

 

But that was in Australia with totally different conditions. Not sure if England will be able to clear big Aussie boundaries with airy hits consistently.

 

Yasir Shah has a 117 in Australia lol Aussie pitches reward positive cricket. Pant thrives on playing positive cricket. Even Gill's counter attack set us up.

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, Vijy said:

imagine shardul-undercutter-mukesh vs this eng lineup. aus is much better

 

1000 runs in 50 overs lol

[wazza]

3 minutes ago, Vijy said:

imagine shardul-undercutter-mukesh vs this eng lineup. aus is much better

Oh depends on who india pick ofocurse. 

 

I was going with bumrah prasidh siraj harshit or hangerakr

 

That would be a deadly attacj^ 

 

But if we are sticking with dravball selections as you mentioned then no.