Gukesh wins World Chess Candidates 2024. Becomes youngest ever contender for World Chess Championship crown.

[Kron]

50 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Pragg was clutch af in the World Cup. Made it to the final where he lost to Carlsen, but he was damn tired by that point because of his journey with so many tiebreaks.

Apart from mucking around I that Ukrainian girl, what do you think of vidarth? He too seems talented but not next level like pragg and gukesh 

[Gollum]

1 hour ago, Kron said:

Apart from mucking around I that Ukrainian girl, what do you think of vidarth? He too seems talented but not next level like pragg and gukesh 

Dina? She is Israeli/Russian I think.

 

Vidit is similar to Harikrishna, his ceiling isn't as high as Gukesh/Pragg/Arjun. Honest trier, can hover in 11-20 ranking for a few years, candidates qualification was probably his career peak. 

[Kron]

57 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Dina? She is Israeli/Russian I think.

 

Vidit is similar to Harikrishna, his ceiling isn't as high as Gukesh/Pragg/Arjun. Honest trier, can hover in 11-20 ranking for a few years, candidates qualification was probably his career peak. 

Oh yea dina yea. 

 

Gukesh pragg and arjun yes all are next level talents. India will be a powerhouse in chess. 

[Vickydev]

Beats Carauna now in Classical time control. Both #1 and #2 in the World have lost to Pragg in the Norway chess event but family bragging rights are at stake here. 

Vaishali is bossing the women's event and doesn't want to get outshone by his brother. Incredible stuff. 

 

Also Ding is just a shadow of his former self, probably lowest a World Champion has ever been. Gukesh will bury him in current form

[ravishingravi]

Superstar

 

 

[Vijy]

16 hours ago, Kron said:

Pragg just gives me choker vibes. I could be dead wrong but I still feel gukesh is on another planet. He is ruthless. If he continues to develop he will go down as the best. 

He's not a choker. No where near our cricket team

[Vijy]

3 hours ago, Vickydev said:

Beats Carauna now in Classical time control. Both #1 and #2 in the World have lost to Pragg in the Norway chess event but family bragging rights are at stake here. 

Vaishali is bossing the women's event and doesn't want to get outshone by his brother. Incredible stuff. 

 

Also Ding is just a shadow of his former self, probably lowest a World Champion has ever been. Gukesh will bury him in current form

Time to bury the chinese at least in one sector

[Gollum]

Gukesh has a bad H2H against Ding. Pragg could have beaten Ding had he qualified.

[Vijy]

Just now, Gollum said:

Gukesh has a bad H2H against Ding. Pragg could have beaten Ding had he qualified.

I think he can improve it this time.

[Kron]

3 hours ago, ravishingravi said:

Superstar

 

 

Wowowowow

apologies on my part. He is a freak 

[Kron]

3 hours ago, Vijy said:

He's not a choker. No where near our cricket team

My bad. I am totally wrong here. Kid is a freak talent. Salute.

 

His interviews though are funny haha

[Kron]

3 hours ago, Gollum said:

Gukesh has a bad H2H against Ding. Pragg could have beaten Ding had he qualified.

Records are meant to be broken. I believe pragg has a bad record vs Gukesh if I am not wrong. 

[Lord]

Who is better? Gukesh or Pragg?

[Gollum]

2 hours ago, Lord said:

Who is better? Gukesh or Pragg?

World #1 Carlsen says Pragg is best probably cos his style is close to Carlsen's and he gives him max trouble 

#2 Caruana says Arjun is best

#3 Nakamura says Gukesh is best

 

In short time controls, Pragg and Arjun are better because they are more intuitive. Gukesh relies on calculations, which is energy/time intensive.

 

In classical, Gukesh has won candidates as well as individual gold on top board of Olympiad (even Carlsen yet to do this), those are legendary achievements, other two have not come close to achieving those kind of feats. Very clutch, and someone who goes on rampage every now and then, his lows are pretty bad however 

 

Arjun is king of opens, also best fighting spirit out of all three. Very complete player. Most consistent, doesn't get enough hype IMO.

 

Pragg has best record against Carlsen, and has also inflicted painful defeats on Caruana like in the WC. Many experts feel he is most talented, and an understanding of the game rarely seen.

 

I think in a few years time Pragg will be like Federer (most talented and beautiful player), Arjun Nadal (never say die attitude) and Gukesh the Djokovic of the chess world (nerves of steel, clutchness, mental toughness). Having 3 such players around the same time is very rare, even for Soviets/Russians. Even better news is all 3 are directly under the wings of Vishy Anand in his academy, for last 3-4 years even before their greatness became visible to most. People compare this to Botvinnik's Soviet School of Chess where Karpov, Kasparov, Kramnik were students....Botvinnik himself was a legendary former 5 time world champion (in 50s and 60s) and is regarded as the patriarch of Soviet chess, one of the most respected and famous men in USSR. 

 

Edited June 2, 2024 by Gollum

[Gollum]

https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/chess/magnus-carlsen-exclusive-interview-norway-chess-gukesh-r-pragg-9350446/

 

@Lord Carlsen's views on this, may answer your question, from the mouth of the GOAT.

[Vijy]

5 hours ago, Gollum said:

World #1 Carlsen says Pragg is best probably cos his style is close to Carlsen's and he gives him max trouble 

#2 Caruana says Arjun is best

#3 Nakamura says Gukesh is best

 

In short time controls, Pragg and Arjun are better because they are more intuitive. Gukesh relies on calculations, which is energy/time intensive.

 

In classical, Gukesh has won candidates as well as individual gold on top board of Olympiad (even Carlsen yet to do this), those are legendary achievements, other two have not come close to achieving those kind of feats. Very clutch, and someone who goes on rampage every now and then, his lows are pretty bad however 

 

Arjun is king of opens, also best fighting spirit out of all three. Very complete player. Most consistent, doesn't get enough hype IMO.

 

Pragg has best record against Carlsen, and has also inflicted painful defeats on Caruana like in the WC. Many experts feel he is most talented, and an understanding of the game rarely seen.

 

I think in a few years time Pragg will be like Federer (most talented and beautiful player), Arjun Nadal (never say die attitude) and Gukesh the Djokovic of the chess world (nerves of steel, clutchness, mental toughness). Having 3 such players around the same time is very rare, even for Soviets/Russians. Even better news is all 3 are directly under the wings of Vishy Anand in his academy, for last 3-4 years even before their greatness became visible to most. People compare this to Botvinnik's Soviet School of Chess where Karpov, Kasparov, Kramnik were students....Botvinnik himself was a legendary former 5 time world champion (in 50s and 60s) and is regarded as the patriarch of Soviet chess, one of the most respected and famous men in USSR. 

 

great analogy, Gollum-ji.... Let's hope that we see this trinity materialize

[Vijy]

8 hours ago, Gollum said:

https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/chess/magnus-carlsen-exclusive-interview-norway-chess-gukesh-r-pragg-9350446/

 

@Lord Carlsen's views on this, may answer your question, from the mouth of the GOAT.

from one GOAT regarding potential future GOAT(s)

[Lord]

1 hour ago, Vijy said:

from one GOAT regarding potential future GOAT(s)

 

Want to see all 3 on podium together

[Vijy]

7 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Want to see all 3 on podium together

that would be amazing. I doubt if it will happen. Even USSR at its peak would have struggled to achieve such a feat

[Gollum]

Arjun world number 4 now, keeps going unnoticed. Let's see which of these 3 kids hits 2800 first.