Vijy Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) thinking about ODI WC now, this is how I would do overs 40-50: boomer: 3 to 4 overs kuldeep (yadav): 1 or 2 overs --> some risk of tonking, but hopefully he will be bowling to some lower order bats, who might get into some tangle with him pandu/lord thakur: 2 to 3 overs [sad to say, but both are better than prasidh] siraj: 3 overs (has improved quite a bit) Edited August 20, 2023 by Vijy Link to comment
Lord Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, Vijy said: thinking about ODI WC now, this is how I would do overs 40-50: boomer: 3 to 4 overs kuldeep (yadav): 1 or 2 overs --> some risk of tonking, but hopefully he will be bowling to some lower order bats, who might get into some tangle with him pandu/lord thakur: 2 to 3 overs [sad to say, but both are better than prasidh] siraj: 3 overs (has improved quite a bit) then Prasidh won't play.Our 8-11 will be : Thakur Kuldeep Bumrah Siraj Link to comment
Vijy Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Lord said: then Prasidh won't play.Our 8-11 will be : Thakur Kuldeep Bumrah Siraj I wrote pandu/thakur for that reason. it can be: jaddu at 6 pandu/thakur at 7 kuldeep at 8 boomer at 9 prasidh at 10 siraj at 11 terrible batting, but strong bowling Link to comment
Lord Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Vijy said: I wrote pandu/thakur for that reason. it can be: jaddu at 6 pandu/thakur at 7 kuldeep at 8 boomer at 9 prasidh at 10 siraj at 11 terrible batting, but strong bowling nah Thakur isn't a no. 7 in ODIs. Maybe can do the job in T20s Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share Posted August 20, 2023 25 minutes ago, Vijy said: I wrote pandu/thakur for that reason. it can be: jaddu at 6 pandu/thakur at 7 kuldeep at 8 boomer at 9 prasidh at 10 siraj at 11 terrible batting, but strong bowling India needs 8 batsmen. Otherwise bowlers will be under pressure to delivery in every single match. IN T20 that is not how it goes. Even ace bowlers can travel on a given day. It also affects the tempo of top order. tapandrun 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, Lord said: nah Thakur isn't a no. 7 in ODIs. Maybe can do the job in T20s pandu at 7 would work. main issue is the 4 no. 11 batters Link to comment
Vijy Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: India needs 8 batsmen. Otherwise bowlers will be under pressure to delivery in every single match. IN T20 that is not how it goes. Even ace bowlers can travel on a given day. It also affects the tempo of top order. yes, lower order batting is an issue Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share Posted August 20, 2023 India is always behind some sides because Indian death bowling is tested only in IPL. They don't get opportunity to hone their skills by taking part in other leagues. BacktoCricaddict 1 Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 4 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: India is always behind some sides because Indian death bowling is tested only in IPL. They don't get opportunity to hone their skills by taking part in other leagues. Kuch bhi. Harbhajan, Parthiv and Sreesanth are playing for Morrisville Unity (in my Taluk) in the T10 league. BCCI has allowed them. All hail the BCCI! vvvslaxman 1 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Vijy said: pandu at 7 would work. main issue is the 4 no. 11 batters Pandu at 7 ain't gonna do jackshit...he is not the hitter he used to be. I would take even Deepak Chahar at no 7. Edited August 21, 2023 by singhvivek141 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 9 hours ago, Vijy said: I wrote pandu/thakur for that reason. it can be: jaddu at 6 pandu/thakur at 7 kuldeep at 8 boomer at 9 prasidh at 10 siraj at 11 terrible batting, but strong bowling The more I see it, more I am believing that Prasidh isn't going to be in WC 15. Kuldeep, Jadeja, Axar and Ashwin/Chahal will be 4 spinners Shami, Siraj, Bumrah and Shardul will be 4 pacers Gill, Virat, Rohit, Kishan, SKY, Pandya are lock in 6 batters. It's a question of one more batter..I think one of KL/Shreyas will get included. KL more so because he can keep, bat in MO and is the choosen one of Dravid. putrevus 1 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/20/2023 at 10:58 PM, Vijy said: thinking about ODI WC now, this is how I would do overs 40-50: boomer: 3 to 4 overs kuldeep (yadav): 1 or 2 overs --> some risk of tonking, but hopefully he will be bowling to some lower order bats, who might get into some tangle with him pandu/lord thakur: 2 to 3 overs [sad to say, but both are better than prasidh] siraj: 3 overs (has improved quite a bit) Thakur is not a death bowler. His role is in the middle overs. Neither is Shami at this point. Bumrah/Siraj/Pandya/spinner. Has to be from among these depending on who's playing and who's not. Spin actually has done better than expected at the death. Take out those three seamers and pretty much every other spinner is better than seam options at the death. Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 20 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Pandu at 7 ain't gonna do jackshit...he is not the hitter he used to be. I would take even Deepak Chahar at no 7. The problem with Deepak Chahar is not his ability, just his availability. Take KLR's injury issues. Add Shreyas Iyer's. Multiply with Washington Sundar's. Raise to power 100. You get Deepak Chahar's. Poor guy. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 3 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: The problem with Deepak Chahar is not his ability, just his availability. Take KLR's injury issues. Add Shreyas Iyer's. Multiply with Washington Sundar's. Raise to power 100. You get Deepak Chahar's. Poor guy. Deepak Chahar has restricted himself to playing for CSK. 14 crore annual income. Why would he bother? On that score i appreciate Thakur who is consistently available much like Shami. Chahar will show all his six pack in instagram. But slightly over weight Thakur plyas whenever he is called upon in any format. Link to comment
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