zen Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 (edited) A speculation on the evidence (if no new updates are available) Let’s look at the events: * Team Canada and Team India meet in Singapore * Team Canada presents the evidence, but Team India refuses to accept it This could be a situation where both are correct: Team Canada: Provides the evidence which is said to be a mix of video, audio, and email communications Team India: Refuses to accept the evidence as it may not be technically permissible in the court of law In the above case, either Canada will have to find a way to make the evidence permissible or attempt to gain cooperation from India to solve the issue. Therefore, my take is that if the evidence is not permissible in the court of law, Canada should have treaded more carefully, seeking to address the matter privately through a dialogue with India. However, to get into a dialogue with India, it thought that it had to go public (besides the politicians thinking about its vote bank) as the chances of India entertaining that idea would be slim. On India’s Counter Terrorism Strategy and Tactics The execution needs to be better if it hopes to pull such a stunt off. At the end of the day, people are not going to be too bothered if a really bad person is killed. However, if you leave traces, it can backfire for the country, its non resident citizens, and people of origin. Such operations are a double edged sword if done in relatively friendly countries. Moving forward, I hope that the Khalaistanis learn to behave in foreign countries as many have been damaging temples, etc., to create issues for other people of Indian origin. Doing all that is not going to give you Khalistan. The Canadian govt needs to step up to check the negative Khalaistani activity, work on reducing crime, and focus on quality immigration including by working with other countries to see that their criminals do not sneak in. The other countries also need to be vigilant on their criminals not seeking out (but in many cases corruption allows that to happen). For many the prospects of coming to Canada provides a new hope for life. Let that not turn into a nightmare! PS Looking forward to more friendly Canada-India relations! Edited October 18, 2024 by zen Chaos 1
zen Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 22 minutes ago, Chaos said: We got to invite a new member in the BU It is difficult to find shinning examples similar to the two outstanding grads! Chaos 1
Chaos Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 1 minute ago, zen said: It is difficult to find shinning examples similar to the two outstanding grads! Naklinandhan is hard to beat zen 1
Chaos Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 17 minutes ago, zen said: A speculation on the evidence (if no new updates are available) Let’s look at the events: * Team Canada and Team India meet in Singapore * Team Canada presents the evidence, but Team India refuses to accept it This could be a situation where both are correct: Team Canada: Provides the evidence which is said to be a mix of video, audio, and email communications Team India: Refuses to accept the evidence as it may not be technically permissible in the court of law In the above case, either Canada will have to find a way to make the evidence permissible or attempt to gain cooperation from India to solve the issue. Therefore, my take is that if the evidence is not permissible in the court of law, Canada should have treaded more carefully, seeking to address the matter privately through a dialogue with India. However, to get into a dialogue with India, it thought that it had to go public (besides the politicians thinking about its vote bank) as the chances of India entertaining that idea would be slim. On India’s Counter Terrorism Strategy and Tactics The execution needs to be better if it hopes to pull such a stunt off. At the end of the day, people are not going to be too bothered if a really bad person is killed. However, if you leave traces, it can backfire for the country, its non resident citizens, and people of origin. Such operations are a double edged sword if done in relatively friendly countries. Moving forward, I hope that the Khalaistanis learn to behave in foreign countries as many have been damaging temples, etc., to create issues for other people of Indian origin. Doing all that is not going to give you Khalistan. The Canadian govt needs to step up to check the negative Khalaistani activity, work on reducing crime, and focus on quality immigration including by working with other countries to see that their criminals do not sneak in. The other countries also need to be vigilant on their criminals not seeking out (but in many cases corruption allows that to happen). For many the prospects of coming to Canada provides a new hope for life. Let that not turn into a nightmare! PS Looking forward to more friendly Canada-India relations! professor thats too long to read…for BU grads zen 1
mishra Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 1 hour ago, zen said: Or was it the clam before a storm Heard Canada was lobbying for Western sanction on India, till class monitor told them, wake uo smell the bean, India China Russia can not be put together basket
zen Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 18 minutes ago, mishra said: Heard Canada was lobbying for Western sanction on India, till class monitor told them, wake uo smell the bean, India China Russia can not be put together basket A good way to move forward would be to form a committee to solve this. Canada drops charges against India and India promises to not undertake such activities on the Canadian soil in the future. Both agree to collaborate and be transparent on such issues. A positive is that both countries are not dealing with a country like China.
mishra Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 3 hours ago, zen said: A good way to move forward would be to form a committee to solve this. Canada drops charges against India and India promises to not undertake such activities on the Canadian soil in the future. Both agree to collaborate and be transparent on such issues. A positive is that both countries are not dealing with a country like China. I think In geopolitics, its winner takes all. I don’t see India compromising. Kaneedas ability to interfere in Indoa started reducing after 26th Jan Farmers anarchy couple of years bsck. Indian ability has increased and increasing exponentially. So MEA is saying to Trudeau ehat Xi said to him few yrs bak , EFF OFf randomGuy 1
randomGuy Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 5 hours ago, zen said: A speculation on the evidence (if no new updates are available) Let’s look at the events: * Team Canada and Team India meet in Singapore * Team Canada presents the evidence, but Team India refuses to accept it This could be a situation where both are correct: Team Canada: Provides the evidence which is said to be a mix of video, audio, and email communications Team India: Refuses to accept the evidence as it may not be technically permissible in the court of law In the above case, either Canada will have to find a way to make the evidence permissible or attempt to gain cooperation from India to solve the issue. Therefore, my take is that if the evidence is not permissible in the court of law, Canada should have treaded more carefully, seeking to address the matter privately through a dialogue with India. However, to get into a dialogue with India, it thought that it had to go public (besides the politicians thinking about its vote bank) as the chances of India entertaining that idea would be slim. On India’s Counter Terrorism Strategy and Tactics The execution needs to be better if it hopes to pull such a stunt off. At the end of the day, people are not going to be too bothered if a really bad person is killed. However, if you leave traces, it can backfire for the country, its non resident citizens, and people of origin. Such operations are a double edged sword if done in relatively friendly countries. Moving forward, I hope that the Khalaistanis learn to behave in foreign countries as many have been damaging temples, etc., to create issues for other people of Indian origin. Doing all that is not going to give you Khalistan. The Canadian govt needs to step up to check the negative Khalaistani activity, work on reducing crime, and focus on quality immigration including by working with other countries to see that their criminals do not sneak in. The other countries also need to be vigilant on their criminals not seeking out (but in many cases corruption allows that to happen). For many the prospects of coming to Canada provides a new hope for life. Let that not turn into a nightmare! PS Looking forward to more friendly Canada-India relations! 4 hours ago, Chaos said: professor thats too long to read…for BU grads Chatgpt can be used to reply without reading " Your speculation on the recent events between Team Canada and Team India presents a skewed perspective that overlooks critical nuances. First, suggesting that Canada should have treaded more carefully implies a misunderstanding of the gravity of the allegations at hand. When national security is at stake, especially involving potential terrorism, transparency and public discourse may be necessary. Canada may have deemed it essential to go public not only to gather support but to ensure accountability in a matter affecting global safety. The assertion that evidence might not be technically permissible in court should not diminish its validity. Evidence can often be scrutinized and validated through various channels, and outright dismissal by India raises questions about its willingness to engage in constructive dialogue. This refusal hints at deeper geopolitical tensions, suggesting that the issue may not be merely about legal standards but about broader diplomatic relations. Moreover, the commentary on India's counter-terrorism strategies oversimplifies the complexities involved in such operations. Effective counter-terrorism requires meticulous planning and international cooperation. Criticizing the execution without acknowledging the challenges of conducting operations in foreign nations misses the point. These strategies often involve significant risks and moral dilemmas, particularly in relations with nations that might be deemed allies. The mention of Khalistani activists damaging temples shifts the focus away from the broader issue of how minority communities can coexist peacefully in foreign lands. It implies a stereotype that does not represent the entire community. Instead, fostering dialogue and understanding among diverse groups would be a more productive approach. In conclusion, both nations need to navigate this sensitive issue with diplomacy and a commitment to finding common ground rather than deepening divisions. The focus should be on cooperative solutions that address the root causes of tensions while safeguarding national interests." ravishingravi and coffee_rules 2
ravishingravi Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 Latest developments in US confirm Trudeau will be left holding the bag. So basically US has throw this ex cisf guy under the bus by calling him most wanted. Ofcourse India won't extradite him just like US won't extradite Headley. This after Indian official went to US to co-operate in investigation. Or in other words settle the issue. Sum and substance of this nautanki is that nothing will change. Trudeau will go next year no matter what he tries. Canada will go further down the rabbit hole with all third rate gangster scum they have imported.
ravishingravi Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 (edited) Some Canadians can see through the bs Edited October 19, 2024 by ravishingravi
MechEng Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 15 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/indias-remaining-diplomats-clearly-on-notice-canadas-foreign-minister/article68771706.ece These press conferences just keep getting worse for India Canada is not being smart here.
zen Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 31 minutes ago, Vicks57 said: https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/indias-remaining-diplomats-clearly-on-notice-canadas-foreign-minister/article68771706.ece These press conferences just keep getting worse for India The irony is that in attempting to kill a “terrorist”, GOI has put its own Vikas Yadav on FBI’s Wanted List His indictment mentions Nijjar too IIRC Vicks57 and Chaos 1 1
Chaos Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 2 minutes ago, zen said: The irony is that in attempting to kill a “terrorist”, GOI has put its own Vikas Yadav on FBI’s Wanted List His indictment mentions Nijjar too IIRC Any new bonobos ?
zen Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 3 minutes ago, Chaos said: Any new bonobos ? BU is an elite institution so someone needs to be of the high standards set by the two nandans! Chaos 1
Chaos Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 2 minutes ago, zen said: BU is an elite institution so someone needs to be of the high standards set by the two nandans! Those two nandands r hard to beat zen 1
Chaos Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 7 minutes ago, zen said: BU is an elite institution so someone needs to be of the high standards set by the two nandans! How about addin @Lord in to the uni? zen 1
zen Posted October 19, 2024 Posted October 19, 2024 (edited) 56 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: Blame Canada Yes, excessive immigration is a problem. A large # of problems appear to be attributed to the Indian immigration. Ironically, even many people in India see many of these people in Canada as creating problems. Therefore, can we blame others if India, where such people originate from and live in various varieties, is seen as a problem by many, even perceiving India as a messed up country enveloped by and possibly unaware of its flaws. Edited October 19, 2024 by zen
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