Why not have fast bouncy pitches up North?

[Suhaan]

We can lay fast bouncy pitches up North,even Mumbai has true bounce,fine

While we will have more equipped pace bowlers ready by the time we go to important tours and ICC events and we will have good dry pitches in South to get our batsmen ready to be able to negate quality spin

This helps us to cover all the bases

Spinners getting purchase from Northern wickets can be deemed prospect too

Just see Coetzee. And others doing so well for SA who are Tyagis age

If only we had condition supporting these guys ,these kids like Tyagi Umran Harshit,Mayank,Sen would have done spectacularly

Really don't want these guys to go down the drain,time is precious BCCI needs to look into this

They have the resources to make it happen

@express bowling

@Mosher

@MediumPacer

@singhvivek141

@Need4Speedr      @rollingstoned

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 22, 2023 by Suhaan

[singhvivek141]

5 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

We can lay fast bouncy pitches up North,even Mumbai has true bounce,fine

While we will have more equipped pace bowlers ready by the time we go to important tours and ICC events and we will have good dry pitches in South to get our batsmen ready to be able to negate quality spin

This helps us to cover all the bases

Spinners getting purchase from Northern wickets can be deemed prospect too

Just see Coetzee. And others doing so well for SA who are Tyagis age

If only we had condition supporting these guys ,these kids like Tyagi Umran Harshit,Mayank,Sen would have done spectacularly

Really don't want these guys to go down the drain,time is precious BCCI needs to look into this

They have the resources to make it happen

@express bowling

@Mosher

@MediumPacer

@singhvivek141

@Need4Speed

 

With the concept of drop in pitches, I think BCCI should seriously look at our Geography and divide the pitches accordingly.

 

Like on a broader level...give hard & bouncy pitches in North, flat patta in West & Central...Green mamba in East and Spin friendly in South (ofcourse it's on a high level and can vary depending on other factors like sea level elevation, climate etc).

 

Our players should adapt for all conditions & pitches...what's the use of such big land mass if we can't recreate the situations across the world. I would even encourage BCCI to use all types of balls SG, Dukes, Kookaburra if possible on all these grounds so that our batters/bowlers can learn how to utilise them properly.

[MediumPacer]

Quick pitches are harder to develop whereas any poorly kept pitch will become a dusty turner.

[MediumPacer]

I liked the pitch they had in Chennai during the nz ban match,but the pitch for nz and Afghanistan was slow.

[SRT100]

7 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

With the concept of drop in pitches, I think BCCI should seriously look at our Geography and divide the pitches accordingly.

 

Australia did this for years.

Perth had fast bouncy wickets.

Brisbane swing bowling.

 

Sydney Spin.

 

Adelaide and Melbourne were traditionally good to bat on.

[MediumPacer]

Pitches up north are probably slowest in india, certainly lack bounce , although dharmashala and the recently relaid strip in lucknow is different.

 

jaipur too used to have bounce some years back but it was more in favour of batting than pacers.

[express bowling]

Dharamsala

Pune

Kolkata

Mumbai

Ahmedabad 

Lahli 

 

These are are venues which have fast and bouncy pitches on more occasions than not.  Eden has used drop in pitches. 

 

IMO these venues should have fast and bouncy pitches for every domestic match. 

 

Most of our quick pacers are coming from Delhi, UP and Kashmir these days.   Harshit, Mayank Y, Saini and Simarjeet from Delhi .. Tyagi and Mohsin from UP .. Umran and Yudhvir from.Kashmir.  So, @Suhaan's suggestion about fast pitches in the Northern region holds a lot of merit. 

 

Delhi, Lucknow and Jammu must develop fast pitches to aid their domestic attacks. Lucknow has improved.  Delhi should use a drop in pitch. 

 

 

Edited October 22, 2023 by express bowling

[MediumPacer]

The Calcutta pitch was quite lively after being relaid after 2016 wt20 but has tamed down since.

[MediumPacer]

3 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Dharamsala

Pune

Kolkata

Mumbai

Ahmedabad 

Lahli 

 

These are are venues which have fast and bouncy pitches on more occasions than not.  Eden has used drop in pitches. 

 

IMO these venues should have fast and bouncy pitches for every domestic match. 

 

Most of our quick pacers are coming from Delhi, UP and Kashmir these days.   Harshit, Mayank Y, Saini and Simarjeet from Delhi .. Tyagi and Mohsin from UP .. Umran and Yudhvir from.Kashmir.  So, @Suhaan's suggestion about fast pitches in the Northern region holds a lot of merit. 

 

Delhi, Lucknow and Jammu must develop fast pitches to aid their domestic attack. Lucknow has improved.  Delhi should use a drop in pitch. 

 

 

Yeah pune is good as well

[MediumPacer]

Even hyderabad had some zip when they first opened up,it had quite good carry .

[rollingstoned]

47 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

We can lay fast bouncy pitches up North,even Mumbai has true bounce,fine

While we will have more equipped pace bowlers ready by the time we go to important tours and ICC events and we will have good dry pitches in South to get our batsmen ready to be able to negate quality spin

This helps us to cover all the bases

Spinners getting purchase from Northern wickets can be deemed prospect too

Just see Coetzee. And others doing so well for SA who are Tyagis age

If only we had condition supporting these guys ,these kids like Tyagi Umran Harshit,Mayank,Sen would have done spectacularly

Really don't want these guys to go down the drain,time is precious BCCI needs to look into this

They have the resources to make it happen

@express bowling

@Mosher

@MediumPacer

@singhvivek141

@Need4Speedr      @rollingstoned

 

 

 

 

 

We need one or 2 more stadia at altitude like Dharamshala and to a lesser extent Pune which will behave a lot like the Highveld. I mentioned in another thread that UK doesn't have a single stadium which hosts international matches yet so there is potential for at least 1 there and perhaps another one or 2 in the Nilgiris or Siliguri area. 

[singhvivek141]

32 minutes ago, rollingstoned said:

We need one or 2 more stadia at altitude like Dharamshala and to a lesser extent Pune which will behave a lot like the Highveld. I mentioned in another thread that UK doesn't have a single stadium which hosts international matches yet so there is potential for at least 1 there and perhaps another one or 2 in the Nilgiris or Siliguri area. 

One Stadium in North East (apart from Guwahati) is also needed. Preferably in Arunachal.

North East is pretty much unexplored in Cricketing terms...more infra there will help us develop some players.

[Suhaan]

3 hours ago, MediumPacer said:

The Calcutta pitch was quite lively after being relaid after 2016 wt20 but has tamed down since.

True,

[Suhaan]

3 hours ago, SRT100 said:

Australia did this for years.

Perth had fast bouncy wickets.

Brisbane swing bowling.

 

Sydney Spin.

 

Adelaide and Melbourne were traditionally good to bat on.

Yes, should be used here as well

[Need4Speed]

7 hours ago, Suhaan said:

We can lay fast bouncy pitches up North,even Mumbai has true bounce,fine

While we will have more equipped pace bowlers ready by the time we go to important tours and ICC events and we will have good dry pitches in South to get our batsmen ready to be able to negate quality spin

This helps us to cover all the bases

Spinners getting purchase from Northern wickets can be deemed prospect too

Just see Coetzee. And others doing so well for SA who are Tyagis age

If only we had condition supporting these guys ,these kids like Tyagi Umran Harshit,Mayank,Sen would have done spectacularly

Really don't want these guys to go down the drain,time is precious BCCI needs to look into this

They have the resources to make it happen

@express bowling

@Mosher

@MediumPacer

@singhvivek141

@Need4Speedr      @rollingstoned

 

 

 

 

 

Absolutely..as more and more pace bowlers coming up from North..we need to encourage them with hard/bouncy pitches.

Additionally, also how about some decent pitches in north east states too where whether is cloudy and ball may swing too..which could help prepare for Eng conditions.

[figo6762]

Also while bcci is at this. Reduce the size of the seating capacity  .. and provide batting cages with drop in pitches .. so batters can practice and bowler can bowl esp in t20’s .. it will also make the stadium experience that much better ..  

Edited October 22, 2023 by figo6762

[bsriharsha]

Nothing is stopping curators from preparing faster wickets even in venues like Hyderabad. 

 

And not a fan of drop in wickets , the wickets lose their individual character. 

[Vijy]

21 hours ago, SRT100 said:

Australia did this for years.

Perth had fast bouncy wickets.

Brisbane swing bowling.

 

Sydney Spin.

 

Adelaide and Melbourne were traditionally good to bat on.

that is why they had ascendancy for a long time.

[SRT100]

1 hour ago, Vijy said:

that is why they had ascendancy for a long time.

True, they also organized the series so that Brisbane had the 1st Test, which Australia for many many years had a good record of winning.

 

Usually the Sydney Test would be the last test and by that stage for sub continent teams they already had lost the series.

 

 

[Suhaan]

We play mostly our domestic cricket in winters,when temperatures throughout the country is conducive to maintain fast bouncy pitches for the season

Only IPL is played from April to June, still there first week and a half we see good carry in some venues