Does Rauf posses any bowling skill?

[express bowling]

7 minutes ago, MK55 said:

It can’t be generalized that way. It depends massively on the pitches too. Pitches in India are the absolute worst for fast bowlers lately. 

 

Bumrah is gonna do well anywhere. Prasidh and even Siraj for that matter have got things to prove yet.

 

Get a bouncy pitch with some pace, and all of a sudden, batters will be hurried/start mistiming and things will be drastically different.

 

Talking about all condition pacers who are likely to do well in most places.

 

Siraj or Prasidh may do badly if they lose accuracy. If they can land the ball in good enough areas, they have the pace + skills combo to do well in most places. 

[bsriharsha]

Siraj has the ability to get the ball to move , both in the air and off the pitch. 

 

Prasidh has the height which will make things uncomfortable for the batsmen. 

 

Rauf has neither. Doesn't get much bounce and there's no movement , gun barrel straight. 

 

The nearest equivalent I can think of is that he's a faster Ashok Dinda 

[bsriharsha]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

Or bowl Accurate Yorkers at 142 k to 145 k or higher. 

Or even at 137. An accurate Yorker doesn't need to be super quick 

[express bowling]

4 minutes ago, bsriharsha said:

Or even at 137. An accurate Yorker doesn't need to be super quick 

 

At 137 k, an accurate yorker can stop runs.

 

At near 145 k or higher, accurate yorkers pick wickets more regularly, while stopping runs too. 

[Autonomous]

Hadis Rauf is hit and miss. 

 

He was good in australia though last year

[bsriharsha]

Australian pitches might accentuate his pace a bit more as they are naturally fast wickets. But he's way too dumb to make use of that.

 

He might show up in the speed guns and excite spectators. But the ball is still going to disappear to the boundary.

[rish]

Skill yes, Brains no

[bsriharsha]

His release is wrong as well. Not an expert in fast bowling but he's not landing the ball enough on the seam as well. I don't think he's bowling a heavy ball.

 

[MediumPacer]

people being too harsh ,him eco is not great in these conditions but then chachu has good eco ,is he a great bowler.

[Lord]

6 hours ago, Adamant said:

Bhuvi is twice the bowler Rauf ever will be

 

yeh zyaada ho gaya. He has much better average and SR than Economy Kumar.

[the don]

T20 skills, solid t20 bowler.

The ability to bowl fast, fastest in the world alongside Mark Wood atm.

Edited October 28, 2023 by the don

[First class]

On 10/27/2023 at 12:12 PM, Forever Indian said:

He is poor man's Ashok Dinda - only pace, no brains, no skills...

Guy has never played any serious cricket , not even club cricket before picked for PSL and becoming T20 specialist. You can;t learn fast bowler's skills like swing and seam without playing seasons of FC cricket. 

[Sharjah-Harjah]

10 hours ago, bsriharsha said:

Australian pitches might accentuate his pace a bit more as they are naturally fast wickets. But he's way too dumb to make use of that.

 

He might show up in the speed guns and excite spectators. But the ball is still going to disappear to the boundary.

Good point.
These pitches feel like a nightmare for fast bowlers. Boult, Cummins, Starc, Hazelwood have gone the distance even more than Rauf. Mark Wood is averaging 80+ I heard. No wonder India doesn’t produce fast bowling stocks regularly. 

The problem is that Rauf doesn’t have a lot of control and he’s being used incorrectly. He has been forced to bowl in PP due to the absence of Naseem. It’s in PP where has gone for big runs (against Aus and Afg). But after the field bas spread, and specially at the death, he’s been pretty decent even on these graveyards. 

 

He should be reserved for T20s. 

Edited October 29, 2023 by Sharjah-Harjah

[Sharjah-Harjah]

6 hours ago, the don said:

T20 skills, solid t20 bowler.

The ability to bowl fast, fastest in the world alongside Mark Wood atm.

Yup. Ide say Nortje is up there too. South Africa is lucky Nortje got injured

[MediumPacer]

20 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Very idea of pace is to take pitch out of the equation. If they are going to rely on pitch then there is no use of pace.  Umran Malik during his 5 wicket haul completely took the pitch out of the equation. He was brutal. On slow pitches in Bangladesh he even managed to bully Shakib.  He is erratic. But if they can't do that no use of pace

Have already explained.He is better with the softer ball,if they used only 1 white ball his returns would be better.

[Vijy]

On 10/28/2023 at 10:18 AM, bsriharsha said:

Australian pitches might accentuate his pace a bit more as they are naturally fast wickets. But he's way too dumb to make use of that.

 

He might show up in the speed guns and excite spectators. But the ball is still going to disappear to the boundary.

the faster he bowls, the faster it will travel to the boundary.