TellTheTruth Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 4 hours ago, bharathh said: I don't get the Vivek Ramaswamy hate. Is it that he dared to hope to represent the Republicans instead of the Democrats that irks people so much? He talked a lot more sense that almost anyone during the primaries. What Ann Coulter said was pretty normal for America though. I hope people stop parroting that it is the land of milk and honey and opportunity all the time. Experienced plenty of this crap in the US during my time there. Happy I don't live there anymore. My only problem with vivek is he set him self up as the brown faced Hindu man that will tell white people in the US they are discriminated against and allow white people to be racist to Indians and then call them brave for their views. This is the problem Right wing Indians in USA, they think racists like ann coulter and tucker carlson will like them if they suck up to them enough. Quote “Take, you know, the Brahmin women who come from India and they climb the ladder, they get the best education, we give them every opportunity, and they turn around and lead the charge on ‘we’re racist, we’re an awful country, we need reform,’” Prof Wax said. “Here’s the problem: they’re taught that they are better than everybody else, because they are Brahmin elites, and yet, on some level, their country is a s***hole – excuse my language.” The teacher then explains her theory that these immigrants resent America’s “wonderful, developed scientific and medical establishment,” and lash out by accusing it of racism. “They realize that, you know, we’ve outgunned and outclassed them in practically every way, and what do they feel?” Prof Wax went on. “I think the role of envy and shame in the way that the Third World regards the First World is underestimated.” “I think you’re exactly right,” Carlson replied. Indians need to realise these right wing grifters are not their allies. when push comes to shove they probably have more sympathey for Light skinned muslims then Indian Hindus. No amount of achievement will ever satisfy these racist. No matter what Indians achieve individually these morons will say its because Indians cheated their way into it.
coffee_rules Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 (edited) 48 minutes ago, TellTheTruth said: My only problem with vivek is he set him self up as the brown faced Hindu man that will tell white people in the US they are discriminated against and allow white people to be racist to Indians and then call them brave for their views. This is the problem Right wing Indians in USA, they think racists like ann coulter and tucker carlson will like them if they suck up to them enough. Indians need to realise these right wing grifters are not their allies. when push comes to shove they probably have more sympathey for Light skinned muslims then Indian Hindus. No amount of achievement will ever satisfy these racist. No matter what Indians achieve individually these morons will say its because Indians cheated their way into it. Dems are no less evil, they favored welfare and higher taxes. As more Indians get richer, they vote republican on the economic issues. Dems will drive the nation into debt and socially too are extremely left leaning. 10% of Republican, or I should say Trumpsters are white supremacists and other moderates will course correct it when it comes to racism. Even towards India and Hindus, Republicans are better and one of the reasons more and more Indians vote Republican. CA, WA passed the anti-Hindu caste bills based on fake discrimination of caste in ISA. They pass Sharia laws and will support Muslims and call any criticism of Islam as Islamophobia! Vivek is an idiot mouthing inane stuff but never gave up on his Hindu identity like sell-outs Nimrata Randhawa or Piyush or Dilip. That’s the main reason for Ann Coulter and Tucker to diss and reject him. Edited May 28, 2024 by coffee_rules
BacktoCricaddict Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 34 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Nimrata Randhawa or Piyush or Dilip. I get what you are saying about Bobby Jindal, but that criticism does not apply to Haley. As is typical of many Punjabi households, she has been a "Nikki" since her childhood. Like Bunty, Lucky, Babli, Sweety and Nikki. Sgattick10 1
coffee_rules Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 1 hour ago, BacktoCricaddict said: I get what you are saying about Bobby Jindal, but that criticism does not apply to Haley. As is typical of many Punjabi households, she has been a "Nikki" since her childhood. Like Bunty, Lucky, Babli, Sweety and Nikki. May be her nickname was Nikki. But she got converted is my point. There are accusations that she had listed her race as White and I can't confirm it. https://religionunplugged.com/news/2023/2/28/with-her-newsworthy-firsts-dont-ignore-religion-angles-in-nikki-haley-v-donald-trump#:~:text=Born Nimrata Nikki Randhawa and,soon after converted to Christianity.
TellTheTruth Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 2 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Dems are no less evil, they favored welfare and higher taxes. As more Indians get richer, they vote republican on the economic issues. Dems will drive the nation into debt and socially too are extremely left leaning. 10% of Republican, or I should say Trumpsters are white supremacists and other moderates will course correct it when it comes to racism. Even towards India and Hindus, Republicans are better and one of the reasons more and more Indians vote Republican. CA, WA passed the anti-Hindu caste bills based on fake discrimination of caste in ISA. They pass Sharia laws and will support Muslims and call any criticism of Islam as Islamophobia! Vivek is an idiot mouthing inane stuff but never gave up on his Hindu identity like sell-outs Nimrata Randhawa or Piyush or Dilip. That’s the main reason for Ann Coulter and Tucker to diss and reject him. I agree with the part about the dems but it is possible to win elections without appeasing The Ann Coulter/ tucker Carlson bigots. Vivek is clearly trying to make it okay to be racist against Indians and Hindus to help further his position of being 'one of the good ones.' which is why I dislike him more than other Indian American politicians. Also I am skeptical about Indians voting more Republican since currently Indians are the richest demographic but voted around 70-80 percent for biden in last election. College Educated Minorities are extremely likely to vote Democratic for what ever reason. coffee_rules 1
Vijy Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 4 hours ago, Real McCoy said: I don't understand how our babus are still servile after all these years of independence. its probably because they get to benefit from it. that's basically it. there is a program to keep the majority meek. one can see this, for instance, in Ind cricket team too. trundlers, non-spinners, tuk-tukers, etc
Vijy Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 34 minutes ago, TellTheTruth said: I agree with the part about the dems but it is possible to win elections without appeasing The Ann Coulter/ tucker Carlson bigots. Vivek is clearly trying to make it okay to be racist against Indians and Hindus to help further his position of being 'one of the good ones.' which is why I dislike him more than other Indian American politicians. Also I am skeptical about Indians voting more Republican since currently Indians are the richest demographic but voted around 70-80 percent for biden in last election. College Educated Minorities are extremely likely to vote Democratic for what ever reason. yes, toadying to likes of coulter does not make for a good look.
bharathh Posted May 29, 2024 Posted May 29, 2024 9 hours ago, TellTheTruth said: My only problem with vivek is he set him self up as the brown faced Hindu man that will tell white people in the US they are discriminated against and allow white people to be racist to Indians and then call them brave for their views. This is the problem Right wing Indians in USA, they think racists like ann coulter and tucker carlson will like them if they suck up to them enough. Indians need to realise these right wing grifters are not their allies. when push comes to shove they probably have more sympathey for Light skinned muslims then Indian Hindus. No amount of achievement will ever satisfy these racist. No matter what Indians achieve individually these morons will say its because Indians cheated their way into it. Dems are aligned with the commies and Islamists. IMO, Black Americans (almost exclusively Dems) are even more racist vs Indians as they cannot stand how successful most Indians are. I still remember the years after 2001. The most abuse I used to get were from the Black Americans. Under all the Dem states, Hinduphobia stands at an all time high while the Dems will continue to deny and downplay abuse and violence against Hindus. Just like people feel that any violence vs Israel is justified they will bring up absurd things like the caste system to justify abuse and violence vs Hindus. IMO, Vivek doesn't really have a choice in parties. If there were a credible Liberatarian front I think he would belong there. Unfortunately, he is stuck with the Republicans if he wants to make a political career. He is young. Who knows which way the wind will blow in the future? someone 1
Vijy Posted May 29, 2024 Posted May 29, 2024 1 hour ago, bharathh said: Dems are aligned with the commies and Islamists. IMO, Black Americans (almost exclusively Dems) are even more racist vs Indians as they cannot stand how successful most Indians are. I still remember the years after 2001. The most abuse I used to get were from the Black Americans. Under all the Dem states, Hinduphobia stands at an all time high while the Dems will continue to deny and downplay abuse and violence against Hindus. Just like people feel that any violence vs Israel is justified they will bring up absurd things like the caste system to justify abuse and violence vs Hindus. IMO, Vivek doesn't really have a choice in parties. If there were a credible Liberatarian front I think he would belong there. Unfortunately, he is stuck with the Republicans if he wants to make a political career. He is young. Who knows which way the wind will blow in the future? unlikely to be his way. neither republicans nor democrats will embrace a full-fledged indian descendant. need to have mixed blood at least (e.g., harris) to make it some distance.
BacktoCricaddict Posted May 30, 2024 Posted May 30, 2024 On 5/28/2024 at 2:42 PM, coffee_rules said: May be her nickname was Nikki. But she got converted is my point. There are accusations that she had listed her race as White and I can't confirm it. https://religionunplugged.com/news/2023/2/28/with-her-newsworthy-firsts-dont-ignore-religion-angles-in-nikki-haley-v-donald-trump#:~:text=Born Nimrata Nikki Randhawa and,soon after converted to Christianity. To me, it seemed like the discussion was about the name. And, to me, that is a separate issue from her conversion. But, now that you brought up conversion - if she converted from Sikhism to Christianity with the sole purpose of furthering her political career, she deserves criticism for it.
Vijy Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 5 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: To me, it seemed like the discussion was about the name. And, to me, that is a separate issue from her conversion. But, now that you brought up conversion - if she converted from Sikhism to Christianity with the sole purpose of furthering her political career, she deserves criticism for it. IMO, it's likely she did it - to a large degree, though not entirely - for this reason
diga Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 (edited) On 5/29/2024 at 12:12 AM, coffee_rules said: May be her nickname was Nikki. But she got converted is my point. There are accusations that she had listed her race as White and I can't confirm it. https://religionunplugged.com/news/2023/2/28/with-her-newsworthy-firsts-dont-ignore-religion-angles-in-nikki-haley-v-donald-trump#:~:text=Born Nimrata Nikki Randhawa and,soon after converted to Christianity. Wasnt same accusation levelled against Bobby Jindal too? Punjabis & conversion No wonder Punjab is in doldrums Edited May 31, 2024 by diga
BacktoCricaddict Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 17 hours ago, Vijy said: IMO, it's likely she did it - to a large degree, though not entirely - for this reason Of course the same criticism must apply if someone's politically motivated religious conversion happens in the other direction.
Vijy Posted June 1, 2024 Posted June 1, 2024 8 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Of course the same criticism must apply if someone's politically motivated religious conversion happens in the other direction. obviously it should go either way, but right now the focus is on coconut haley
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