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diga Grand Master

diga

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1 hour ago, Vicks57 said:

 

:facepalm:

 

No, EWS only applies to general caste or Forward caste who are not part of OBC, SC, ST.

 

"No Brahmin willingly applies for it unlike other castes" 

:phehe: . Don't make me swear.

So your claim of 10% for only Brahmins doesnt hold good..

 

Reservation for Brahmins within the society is still a taboo. Will try to post the stats if possible but far few Brahmins have availed it. 

 

mishra Grand Master

mishra

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35 minutes ago, diga said:

So your claim of 10% for only Brahmins doesnt hold good..

 

Reservation for Brahmins within the society is still a taboo. Will try to post the stats if possible but far few Brahmins have availed it. 

 

TBH, Brahmins are most persecuted bunch in Modern India. Reason is not that non Brahmins want to persecute the Brahmin. They still mostly see them and  treat them with respect  in Society and infact are following exactly what Brahmins did (Seek Knowledge and educate and Brahmins are not against it). After destruction of various places (Universities and temples) from where Brahmins can get guidance and prescriptions to culturally /socially evolve the society, Now they are softly blaming Brahmins for not being able to evolve the Society. My question is even others failed on their duty. Kshatriya spectacularly failed defending borders, Vaishyas spectacucularly failed Generating Weath. Kshudras spectacularly failed managing the operations of country. But Brahmins are picked.

 

Bottomline is, reason for there persecution is down to non Bharat interest of eradicating Hindu ethos and culture by employing modern soft persecution tools and remove Bhrahmins altogether who are seen like Sachin Tendulkar in batting lineup of Bharat , Hindus, India ethos and culture. And I see, Its working, Brhmins are slowly getting away from Brahminism in true sense. Question to ask is, can Bharat save its Brahmins?

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rollingstoned Grand Master

rollingstoned

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1 hour ago, Vicks57 said:

 

Very beautifully out. How was I Jealous ?:finger: 

 

I have already said economic reservation is the future. OBC creamy layer come under general caste. It's the same principle for EWS. I was only pointing out how the EWS reservation was given so easily with no commission or major protests to prove the dominance of Upper castes and Brahmins in BJP, RSS.

 

Your racism is very clear. You could have used "gazillion" but you used "your other gorillion reservations". 

 

Please don't go to USA if you are not already there. Liberals in USA are already ready to equate racism with Casteism. They are looking for people like you to validate their biases and make necessary laws based on that.

 

Calling ambedkar fraud. Praising JSD. 

 

Words like "Masturbating to brahmin women",  words like "dumeel" like a I give a  flying * if you abuse the concerned political party.

 

You are a legit nut. 

 

Please don't respond to posts which I have addressed to some one else.

 

Tata bye bye:ciao:

Dyslexic dumdum, I didn't specifically say you per se were jealous but the fact that you have an issue with the 10% quota itself when everyone else is being promised reservations whcih stretch the 50% limit itself to breaking point does lay bare the zero-sum attitude and antipathy you and the likes of you carry with you towards what a community deems as a legitimate and reasonable demand when everyone else is also entitled to it. I guess the agreeable option in your eyes would have just been for them to curl up somewhere and die because of something that some ancestor sometime in the past may or may not have done conferring them privileges until Judgement day. Wouldn't be surprising in the slightest. 

 

There is no widely-agreed upon definition of 'OBC' let alone what it's 'creamy layer' ought to be, people and parties keep moving the Goalposts while buttering their political bread everytime they do so because they've realised that playing the caste card and blackmailing the govt so that a mai-baap relationship is maintained allows them to extracts as much benefits as they possibly can for as long as this kind of status quo holds. Never mind that within these groups also there are several other sub groups making them far from a monolith. The goal of reservations is for reservations to eventually disappear and empower people to stand on their own 2 feet, whether you do it through an agnostic or non-agnostic way by targetting specific communities is best left to the State to decide hopefully after wider consultations with civil society. Else you can enjoy the brain drain and capital flight for ever because your political expedience masquerading as a social justice crusade incentivises exactly that. 

For the umpteenth time, since it appears you are both dumb and have comprehension issues, the EWS was itself the result of a protest against the SC/ST act so there was no reason for a protest to occur against that supposed protest. Why should others care and take to the streets when they get what the EWS offers and then some if they really want it?

 

Lmao yea I am a racist because I used 'gorillion' instead of gazillion, not that as per usual your hallucinations getting the better of you. Why do you take umbrage at something which wasn't even directed at you by twisting it's meaning?:bird: 

 

Both true, my claims are not ahistoric, hard of common sense or illogical. They may seem politically incorrect but so be it. 

 

I'm not worrier about Shartmerica and IMO neither should any other Indian be, this Mandal retardation has reached American shores precisely because it didn't get called out and exposed for what it was when to took root here and now even Indians in USA wil pay for their apathy by repeating the same talking points that you are over here. Baki when you can hallucinate 786 genders that are fluid and make every effort to institutionalise it, it's not that far a leap for tortured analogies to be drawn up between caste and race, never mind that the notion of caste itself is European and not Indian. That nation has to be thrown into a proverbial incinerator now for it to heal itself so the last thing on my mind is seeking approval from and to stop any woolly headed liberal over there trying to say I'm a 'waycist' for my views. You don't need to convince and tender any apologies to someone who has already made up their mind, an advice you yourself can keep in mind. 

 

Those words and others to that effect have been and are routinely uttered by the troglodyte parties in Periyar Nadu which you seemingly don't have an issue with because you supprt them and their narratives. You reap what you sow. So far they got away because of a language gap and lack of SM but a time will come when they will be defrocked and treated like the way Kashmiri separatists are now.

 

You were the one who replied to my post which was quoting someone else btw with much the same drivel as what you posted in the Match day thread.  Should take your own advise brah. 

 

 

coffee_rules Grand Master

coffee_rules

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6 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

 From the link you shared,

 

"From Rig Veda and Atharva Veda we know that meat of a few domestic animals like sheep, goat, buffalo, bull, ox, male calf, etc, were consumed but not cow."

 

Buffalo, bull, ox, male calf are all beef. 

 

So once again,

 

Did Brahmins perform animal sacrifice in Yagnas and eat beef? Yes

 

Rig Veda is older than Mahabharata. Animal sacrifices are common during yagnas. 

 

"If early Brahmins ate beef, there is no justification or compulsion that modern day Brahmins have to eat it too. They have reformed and moved on. "

 

Who asked them to? They can practice vegetarianism. No one is forcing them physically or mentally to eat beef or any other meat.

 

You missed the forest for the trees It refutes the claims that Vedas promoted beef eating and that too by Brahmins. It’s all propaganda material by western Indologists Anne marxists, is the crux of the article. I will take the word of saints and scholars who lived through the spiritual person like Panini and his explanations of Vedas rather than a western educated Marxist. Your quoted authority about Brahmin and beef is Ambedkar’s book , he was not a Sanskrit scholar and had bad discriminatory experiences with Brahmins and had biased reading into Buddhism. A lot of Buddhist have rejected his brand of godless ritualless Buddhism esp those from Eastern hemisphere. Read about Ambedkarite Buddhism. 

coffee_rules Grand Master

coffee_rules

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7 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

 

Clearly you haven't come to terms with your inferiority complex. If Brahmins do something, I will do it. Clearly, you accept that Brahmins have some superior moral sense to you on some level. Vedas give me license to eat beef. So I will do it. The worst form of idolatry is the idolatry of the book. This kind of thinking itself speaks volume about the position of Brahmins in warped view of Hindu/Indian Society. 

 

Maybe you have changed or maybe you haven't because you say everything in past tense.

 

This Brahmin superiority complex must be crushed. 

Vedas gives you license to eat beef! Certainly a scroll or theLiar alumni can say that. Eat beef because you like it, don’t concoct falsehood reading DPatnaik types Mlecchas

coffee_rules Grand Master

coffee_rules

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7 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

 

 

There was/is no Brahmin persecution in TN.  


Your whole party started off with that anti-Brahmin movement. Justice party was the reason for DK and other Dravidian party goons targeted Brahmins to chase them out of TN. There are scores of Iyers and Iyengar colonies in Old Mysore region who have taken refuge because of that political movement. Listen to this EVR terrorist :

 

 

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coffee_rules Grand Master

coffee_rules

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7 hours ago, diga said:

EWS or economically weaker section includes all the people of the state earning lower income and not just Brahmins...  and no Brahmin willingly applies for it unlike other castes 

Muslims are majority of beneficiaries of EWS as they are made to qualify under EWS and not under special OBC category as done in some states. When Kar removed Ms from OBCs, they were told they would qualify under EWS with a larger quota of 10%

ash Rising Star

ash

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More of a class Issue in TN cricket, most players are from Chennai and from the rich schools. If you take all the TN international players, they must have studied in those 2-3 schools. 
 

but after TNPL , things are changing. 

rollingstoned Grand Master

rollingstoned

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12 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

 

Spot on. Its a total failure of our system which either led to or propagated by various invasions or a bit of both. I think in the cities the case of decline of Brahminism is there. I see some brahmins eating biryani. I'm not sure but I heard Sachin eats beef. A Mumbai Iyer I met in US eats beef. Shreyas Iyer's favorite food is Chicken. From Austerity to Hedonism. These brahmins are supposed to be mentors to others. What kind of mentors would the future hold for India.

 

If everyone does as they please, there won't be any culture. This collapse will be total and will be worse than pre Independence times. We will have India ruled by Indians who may not resemble their ancestors in spirit. The colonial Indologists wet dream will finally be coming close to fruition. We will be in the mercy of world powers if we are not already.

 

PS - Sorry for taking on a negative tangent but sometimes these things need to be heard and avoided. Not meant to be dwelled on.

 

 

I despise the gora right, but you might find this interesting. It's partly a conflict between entropy and order, latter being represented pretty much by any culture and civilization along with its practises which by virtue of still being around has proven itself Lindy. Order needs effort, boundaries and discipline to preserve though. 

ravishingravi Grand Master

ravishingravi

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TN was way ahead of the curve on wokeness. Brahmins have been reduced to 3% and yet they are beating the hell out of them. In fact indoctrination in universities is top notch almost CCP level. Most of the staunch Brahmin hatred comes from Brahmins. 

gattaca Grand Master

gattaca

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On 4/17/2024 at 1:23 AM, Vicks57 said:

 

 

There was/is no Brahmin persecution in TN.  Mumbai is the financial capital of India. Dharavi is full of Tamils.

You couldn’t anymore wrong. 
 

 

“if you see a snake and a brahmin kill the brahmin first” wasn’t this said by a man who should have been put in mental asylum.


Parpanan [a derogatory term for Brahmins] should be driven away from this land,” EVR 

 

 

 

“To destroy caste discrimination burn the pictures of Nehru and Gandhi and also the Constitution of India. If all these methods fail to give us results, then we should start beating and killing the Brahmins; we should start burning their houses.”

 

 

There are many statements on Brahmin woman which are terrible. Want EVR who put slippers on Rama’s idol ? This is persecution.

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