Bangladesh PM Sheikh Hasina resigns and fled to India

[singhvivek141]

10 hours ago, kepler37b said:

Kanglus have to be bombed into old stone age. 

Which areas ?

Rangpur, Dinajpur & Chattogram has 15-25% Hindu population.

 

I think Indian Diplomacy should bargain first the way for population settlement. Move all Hindus to Rangpur side and then it will be easier to manage the other regions.

 

Another way is block the Chattogram port and cut their border with Myanmar..should be easier to do as Bangaldesh too has a chicken neck sandwiched between Tripura & Mizoram.

Once Chattogram port is blocked...Bangladesh will have no way to escape. 

[Texan]

"Muhammad Yunus Involved In Genocide": Sheikh Hasina In 1st Public Address

 

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/muhammad-yunus-involved-in-genocide-sheikh-hasina-in-1st-public-address-7172709#pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll

 

 

Why no ICC arrest warrant for Yunus??

 

This guy was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize! Peace my foot!!

[coffee_rules]

2 hours ago, Texan said:

"Muhammad Yunus Involved In Genocide": Sheikh Hasina In 1st Public Address

 

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/muhammad-yunus-involved-in-genocide-sheikh-hasina-in-1st-public-address-7172709#pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll

 

 

Why no ICC arrest warrant for Yunus??

 

This guy was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize! Peace my foot!!

 

As ironic as "Islam means Religion of Peace"! You should know by now that there will be no ICC arrest warrants for ROP leaders like Bashar, Erdogan, Khamenei , Yunus for whatever crimes they commit!!

Edited December 4, 2024 by coffee_rules

[mishra]

14 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Which areas ?

Rangpur, Dinajpur & Chattogram has 15-25% Hindu population.

 

I think Indian Diplomacy should bargain first the way for population settlement. Move all Hindus to Rangpur side and then it will be easier to manage the other regions.

 

Another way is block the Chattogram port and cut their border with Myanmar..should be easier to do as Bangaldesh too has a chicken neck sandwiched between Tripura & Mizoram.

Once Chattogram port is blocked...Bangladesh will have no way to escape. 

Actually ask Kukis to start taking control of some parts of Bangladesh which they think is part of Kukiland

[singhvivek141]

7 hours ago, mishra said:

Actually ask Kukis to start taking control of some parts of Bangladesh which they think is part of Kukiland

Kukis won't do that.

Just like in Khalistani map, there is no mention of taking over Pakistani Punjab and Nankana Saheb.

 

[mishra]

Bangladesh doubling down the pressure on India. They have recalled high commissioner from Agartala and Kolkata.

 

I think Yunus knows he has the Western backing against India. Its reprented in jump in their exports.

[zen]

9 hours ago, mishra said:

Bangladesh doubling down the pressure on India. They have recalled high commissioner from Agartala and Kolkata.

 

I think Yunus knows he has the Western backing against India. Its reprented in jump in their exports.

Who is behind Yunis is NOT an issue. The whole world can be behind him. 
 

The issue is the inability of GOI to stand up for the Hindu and other minorities (in a timely manner) in BD. GOI has been averse to even opening up the borders for those who want to escape. 

Our stand to safeguard people should not be dependent on who backs whom, but on the will to protect a community against all odds.

 

[mishra]

4 hours ago, zen said:

Who is behind Yunis is NOT an issue. The whole world can be behind him. 
 

The issue is the inability of GOI to stand up for the Hindu and other minorities (in a timely manner) in BD. GOI has been averse to even opening up the borders for those who want to escape. 

Our stand to safeguard people should not be dependent on who backs whom, but on the will to protect a community against all odds.

 

See @zen  Let me give you a example. When Hamas in Gaza get attacked even though they started it, We dont see Muslims taking placards against their Muslim leaders like Erdogan or Khomenei. Their placards blames everyone except Muslim leaders.

 

Atleast learn from them how to raise awareness about a particular issue. HEnce I say, I dont see you as honest person when it comes to Hindus of Bangladesh. All your views are mosttly political.

Edited December 6, 2024 by mishra

[mishra]

BBC is running a story that "Muslim Couple forced to Sell house in India" Thats how unbiadsed so called a news portal considered by many Hindus as gospel of truth is.  I didnt click on story. I will get rid of tv license the day kids leave the home

 

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• 09:31Japanese star Miho Nakayama found dead at 54, published at 09:31Japanese star Miho Nakayama found dead at 54

 

Edited December 6, 2024 by mishra

[zen]

1 hour ago, mishra said:

See @zen  Let me give you a example. When Hamas in Gaza get attacked even though they started it, We dont see Muslims taking placards against their Muslim leaders like Erdogan or Khomenei. Their placards blames everyone except Muslim leaders.

 

Atleast learn from them how to raise awareness about a particular issue. HEnce I say, I dont see you as honest person when it comes to Hindus of Bangladesh. All your views are mosttly political.

 

Buddy, Palestinian issue is already on the map! Countries like South Africa, Norway, etc., have gathered evidence. Recently, the UN too pressed for a two-state solution with India voting for it too.  

 

For “Hindus”, India (GOI) has to step up. It needs to “work” to create awareness and a case against BD. BJP has failed to do that (in fact, gone on to close the border with BD to deny refugees). Such inaction is concerning esp. since it claims to be a pro-Hindu party (People expect it to act in the hour of need and not through speeches, tweets, and random protests). 

 

Acting responsibly esp. on regional issues is expected from the GOI. BJP is in the power so it has to take the responsibility. It should NOT be like if BJP is in power, it gets “exempted”, if Congress or some other party is in power, we get to blame them. Showing bias towards a party is being political (which you are as a BJP supporter).  

 

I don’t support any party in particular. Since BJP has been in power in Gujarat since a long long time. Modiji (and such leaders) is from Gujarat. I feel need to make them more accountable (not tolerate inaction). You are probably from a state where BJP competes with other parties so you feel the need to “protect” it at any cost (I don’t even know why anyone would do that. Party is for people not the other way around). Please do not make it political. Need to call a spade a spade (No party owes us anything. On top of that it engages in wide spread corruption). 

 

To me, if BJP does not take concrete action (tweets, speeches, and random protests do not count as concrete action. Even people like us can do that) to protect the Hindus in BD, it has lost its right to say that it stands for Hindus. 

 

 

Edited December 6, 2024 by zen

[zen]

56 minutes ago, mishra said:

BBC is running a story that "Muslim Couple forced to Sell house in India" Thats how unbiadsed so called a news portal considered by many Hindus as gospel of truth is.  I didnt click on story. I will get rid of tv license the day kids leave the home

 

Why would you only listen to news that cater to your biases. “Muslims couple forced to sell house in India” is not an inaccurate piece of news.

 

There are areas in India where Muslims would not be sold properties because their culture of eating non veg, fear of love jihad, etc., do not align with the beliefs of Hindu population. 

 

Muslims should themselves understand this and look to live in areas which are more aligned with their culture.

 

In the US, there are Jewish areas where you could find it difficult to get a home (and even jobs or business in some Jewish companies).

 

India is secular. Which does not mean that people (like the govt) ignore their religion but it means that people can practice their religion (whatever it maybe) without any major restrictions. It is the right of a Hindu area to want to restrict itself to Hindus. 

 

Through such news, it gives Hindus an opportunity to make their case clear (and also highlight the accurate meaning (not the twisted one used in India) of “secularism”, which is not everyone can live anywhere just because the government of India is secular. Secularism gives people the right to limit access to just the people of their religion). 

Edited December 6, 2024 by zen

[mishra]

46 minutes ago, zen said:

 

For “Hindus”, India (GOI) has to step up. It needs to “work” to create awareness and a case against BD. BJP has failed to do that (in fact, gone on to close the border with BD to deny refugees). Such inaction is concerning esp. since it claims to be a pro-Hindu party (People expect it to act in the hour of need and not through speeches, tweets, and random protests).

 

 

Good that I got my point across. Now here is my take on issue.

First I agree that Hindus are not doing enough to globally highlight the issue. May be it requires organisation which Hindus lack. Else how can so many Hindus got killed by Bangladeshis, Pakistanis Kashmiris without anyone in world even knowing it. Not till 26/11 , World realised that Indians are being killed by terrorist. It was probably because terrorists attacked Nariman Point and Taj Hotel which highlighted that India is suffering from state sponsored Terrorism emanating from neigbhour Pakistan. We need GoI to manufacture and fund institutions which can highlight Indian Hindu POV globally.

 

 

Now point, i do not agree is,  either opening of border or attacking Bangladesh. Opening of Border is last resort if we can not attack Bangladesh.

 

 

Right now, best solution is still , get Bangladesh Government to act using various levers( espcially economic and then medical and then exports and then creating a opposition propping up opposition). Effectively , Prepare for regime change. May be implement the regime change. If not next step is get Bangaldesh under military rule. But there must be a administrator else Islmist will run riot on Streets of Bangladesh and we will be forced to last resort.

 

Finally I want India to develop a capabilty and reputation that just like Israel, we will eliminate any terror head, terror mid level terrorist in any part of Bharat region. After all Ram charit manas says "Bhay binu hoye na preet".

Edited December 6, 2024 by mishra

[mishra]

12 minutes ago, zen said:

 

Why would you only listen to news that cater to your biases. “Muslims couple forced to sell house in India” is not an inaccurate piece of news.

 

There are areas in India where Muslims would not be sold properties because their culture of eating non veg, fear of love jihad, etc., do not align with the beliefs of Hindu population. 

 

Muslims should themselves understand this and look to live in areas which are more aligned with their culture.

 

In the US, there are Jewish areas where you could find it difficult to get a home (and even jobs or business in some Jewish companies).

 

India is secular. Which does not mean that people (like the govt) ignore their religion but it means that people can practice their religion (whatever it maybe) without any major restrictions. It is the right of a Hindu area to want to restrict itself to Hindus. 

 

Through such news, it gives Hindus an opportunity to make their case clear (and also highlight the accurate meaning (not the twisted one used in India) of “secularism”, which is not everyone can live anywhere just because the government of India is secular. Secularism gives people the right to limit access to just the people of their religion). 

And there are areas in India where Hindus cant go, forget buying a house and living in it. Was it ever reported to anyone by BBC? Hindus living in Fear in India?

Edited December 6, 2024 by mishra

[zen]

2 minutes ago, mishra said:

Good that I got my point across. Now here is my take on issue.

First I agree that Hindus are not doing enough to globally highlight the issue. May be it requires organisation which Hindus lack. Else how can so many Hindus got killed by Bangladeshis, Pakistanis Kashmiris without anyone in world even knowing it. Not till 26/11 , World realised that Indians are being killed by terrorist. It was probably because terrorists attacked Nariman Point and Taj Hotel which highlighted the issue. We need GoI to manufacture and fund such institutions globally.

 

 

Now point, i do not agree is,  either opening of border or attacking Bangladesh. Opening of Border is last resort if we can not attack Bangladesh.

 

 

Right now, best solution is still get Bangladesh Government to act using various levers( espcially economic and then medical and then exports and then creating a opposition propping up opposition). Effectively , Prepare for regime change. May be implement the regime change. If not next step is get Bangaldesh under military rule. But there must be a administrator else Islmist will run riot on Streets of Bangladesh and we will be forced to last resort.

 

Finally I want India to develop a capabilty and reputation that just like Israel, we will eliminate any terror head, terror mid level terrorist in any part of Bharat region. After all Ram charit manas says "Bhay binu hoye na preet".

 

Unfortunately at the moment, working with BD govt does not seem a viable option (esp. when lives are at stake) when BD govt itself is accused of being complicit. 

 

If I were the PM, my action plan would be clear. For e.g.: 

 

* Ask the consulate in Dhaka to protect Hindus including by renting areas where Hindus could temporary shift for safety. 

* Create a safe passage (through air, water, and land) for those who want to take refuge in India. 

* Deploy heavy troops at the border so BD gets the message that it cannot act with impunity and there will be consequences. 

* Work internationally to create a genocide case against BD. 

* Impose all the applicable sanctions. 

* Where applicable work in the background for a Hindu state. 

 

All the options need to be on the table including attacking BD military bases if required. 

 

Islamic extremists are able to conduct mass murder and disruption because there is nothing else to divert the country’s attention. 

 

 

 

[zen]

10 minutes ago, mishra said:

And there are areas in India where Hindus cant go, forget buying a house and living in it.

 

That needs to be explained to the world. India is NOT west. Hinduism being tolerant allows Muslims to practice their religion, but that does not equate to sacrificing their own religious preference just because the govt of India is “secular” (its meaning twisted by India). 

 

Edited December 6, 2024 by zen

[mishra]

14 minutes ago, zen said:

 

Unfortunately at the moment, working with BD govt does not seem a viable option (esp. when lives are at stake) when BD govt itself is accused of being complicit. 

 

If I were the PM, my action plan would be clear. For e.g.: 

 

* Ask the consulate in Dhaka to protect Hindus including by renting areas where Hindus could temporary shift for safety. 

* Create a safe passage (through air, water, and land) for those who want to take refuge in India. 

* Deploy heavy troops at the border so BD gets the message that it cannot act with impunity and there will be consequences. 

* Work internationally to create a genocide case against BD. 

* Impose all the applicable sanctions. 

* Where applicable work in the background for a Hindu state. 

 

All the options need to be on the table including attacking BD military bases if required. 

 

Islamic extremists are able to conduct mass murder and disruption because there is nothing else to divert the country’s attention. 

 

 

 

 

 

IYRC,

We had issue with Nepal and  GoI managed to talk them that they cant be exclusively Chinese orbit.

We had issue with Sri Lanka. Chinese had complete control and GoI managed to talk them that they cant be exclusively in Chinese orbit.

We had similar issue with Maldives and GoI managed to talk them that they cant be exclusively in Chinese orbit.

Now issue with Bangladesh is same, but more complicated because of genocide of Hindus. We are short of time to weather the storm and NOT just Chinese, But also CCP funded Biden and Blinken have got US on same side. Basically if India is out, Both China and US get share.

 

Thats the reality. And options you mentioned,  I think Yunus government knows India is creating alternative to him if Yunus cant reign in on the Street violence. One example you can see, is For first time, against established norms of talking to only State people in power, GoI has initiated talks with Khaled Zia.

 

However, we need to keep highlighting the plight of Hindus and making aware whoever we can. GoI needs to act faster

[mishra]

25 minutes ago, zen said:

 

That needs to be explained to the world. India is NOT west. Hinduism being tolerant allows Muslims to practice their religion, but that does not equate to sacrificing their own religious preference just because the govt of India is “secular” (its meaning twisted by India). 

 

The reporter and editors who send stories on BBC know it very well. So no amount of explaining will help. Sometime you need to purchase facts ie GOI needs a well established Global machinery both in politics and media using economics.

[zen]

14 minutes ago, mishra said:

 

 

IYRC,

We had issue with Nepal and  GoI managed to talk them that they cant be exclusively Chinese orbit.

We had issue with Sri Lanka. Chinese had complete control and GoI managed to talk them that they cant be exclusively in Chinese orbit.

We had similar issue with Maldives and GoI managed to talk them that they cant be exclusively in Chinese orbit.

Now issue with Bangladesh is same, but more complicated because of genocide of Hindus. We are short of time to weather the storm and NOT just Chinese, But also CCP funded Biden and Blinken have got US on same side. Basically if India is out, Both China and US get share.

 

Thats the reality. And options you mentioned,  I think Yunus government knows India is creating alternative to him if Yunus cant reign in on the Street violence. One example you can see, is For first time, against established norms of talking to only State people in power, GoI has initiated talks with Khaled Zia.

 

However, we need to keep highlighting the plight of Hindus and making aware whoever we can. GoI needs to act faster

 

I am a person who believes in dousing a fire when it is on. There is no way we can look into the eyes of a BD Hindu after they have faced mass killings and destruction.

 

India is usually about inaction. It tends to bolt the stables once the horses are gone, offering tons of excuses (including geopolitics, economy, conspiracy, etc.)  for its inaction. 

 

India lacks confidence (bravado is reserved for speeches and tweets designed for domestic audiences) and does not take an initiative. 

 

Therefore, India is hardly respected (or even trusted) even in its own region. 

 

Policies should be clear and action oriented, implemented in a timely manner. 

 

The type of thinking and mindset displayed by Indian politicians in general cannot be respected by people who want to drive a change, take initiative, etc.

 

Here we are like:

 

Party X: “Why is govt silent on BD?”

 

BJP: “How is govt silent? The PM tweeted. Has your leader tweeted?” 

 

We need to get out of such mindset. It is shameful that we have such politicians representing India. 

 

Edited December 6, 2024 by zen

[zen]

14 minutes ago, mishra said:

The reporter and editors who send stories on BBC know it very well. So no amount of explaining will help. Sometime you need to purchase facts ie GOI needs a well established Global machinery both in politics and media using economics.

 

One does not need to explain to reporters but through clear policies and action. 

 

For e.g. if we are able to define “secularism” properly, it should make it clear for all audiences that a religious community has a right to restrict access to its areas based on the principles of secularism.  

 

Here, we promote secularism as where people have to ignore their religion (because GOI is secular). If that is how we define it, others are going to question based on our definitions. 

 

 

Edited December 6, 2024 by zen

[mishra]

52 minutes ago, zen said:

 

One does not need to explain to reporters but through clear policies and action. 

 

For e.g. if we are able to define “secularism” properly, it should make it clear for all audiences that a religious community has a right to restrict access to its areas based on the principles of secularism.  

 

Here, we promote secularism as where people have to ignore their religion (because GOI is secular). If that is how we define it, others are going to question based on our definitions. 

 

 

Ghantaa!!!

 

Since you are living in India, Hope that you may be able to understand meaing or above word in argument