Suhaan Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said: They do Play rigorous Shield and County cricket while growing up and bowl lots of overs. New crop of Indian Pacers is fed with T20 stuff.. They would never match elite fitness of Anglo Pacers. Padosis also similar. Earlier batch of Ishant,Umesh,Shami too bowled lots of overs in domestics and had high stamina like present Aussie This is a norm across sides in this T20 era,you will see everyone getting injured be it SA,Eng,NZ or us Only current Aussie are class apart even the batch before them Mitch Johnson's,McGrath,Lee all had their fair share of injuries Post retirement,who are the next bact of Aussies who will almost every game ,time will tell? I guess in this era you won't find high stamina guys like Starc,Cummins, Hazalwood that easy Gollum, Mosher and express bowling 3
nevada Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 43 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Earlier batch of Ishant,Umesh,Shami too bowled lots of overs in domestics and had high stamina like present Aussie This is a norm across sides in this T20 era,you will see everyone getting injured be it SA,Eng,NZ or us Only current Aussie are class apart even the batch before them Mitch Johnson's,McGrath,Lee all had their fair share of injuries Post retirement,who are the next bact of Aussies who will almost every game ,time will tell? I guess in this era you won't find high stamina guys like Starc,Cummins, Hazalwood that easy Test cricket has become a burden for all countries not named Australia. And even the Aussies will come down a couple of notches once their big three are gone. Suhaan 1
tweaker Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 13 hours ago, Lord said: What happened to Harshit. Added and then sent back now ignored. Maybe he has leaked some inside information ie Sarfaraz. There is no clarity on selection Lord 1
Lord Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 9 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: Anyone is better than Prasidh "can't bat, can't bowl, can't field" Krishna. Even if Kamboj stands on the field and does nothing, it would be an improvement over Prasidh. Everyone not playing looks better
Lord Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 13 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: Based on Prasidh's consistent no-shows That doesn't mean anybody on bench is better.
express bowling Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 11 hours ago, Suhaan said: Earlier batch of Ishant,Umesh,Shami too bowled lots of overs in domestics and had high stamina like present Aussie This is a norm across sides in this T20 era,you will see everyone getting injured be it SA,Eng,NZ or us Only current Aussie are class apart even the batch before them Mitch Johnson's,McGrath,Lee all had their fair share of injuries Post retirement,who are the next bact of Aussies who will almost every game ,time will tell? I guess in this era you won't find high stamina guys like Starc,Cummins, Hazalwood that easy Exactly ! Suhaan and Mosher 2
express bowling Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 12 hours ago, nevada said: Why was Rana jettisoned? He seems like a better option than IPL GT quota Prasidh! I think Harshit was kept as a cover for Prasidh, who had a minor niggle. They are both classified as tall, bouncy, quick pacers ( although Prasidh did not do his job at all in tests ). After Prasidh recovered, Harshit was sent back. Now Kamboj is being brought in place of Arshdeep, both being classified as new ball bowlers. I was in favour of retaining Harshit as he is a very competitive and smart pacer unlike Prasidh. Mosher, nevada and Suhaan 1 2
Lord Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 1 hour ago, express bowling said: I think Harshit was kept as a cover for Prasidh, who had a minor niggle. They are both classified as tall, bouncy, quick pacers ( although Prasidh did not do his job at all in tests ). After Prasidh recovered, Harshit was sent back. Now Kamboj is being brought in place of Arshdeep, both being classified as new ball bowlers. I was in favour of retaining Harshit as he is a very competitive and smart pacer unlike Prasidh. Can't categorize them like that. Harshit has the skills to adapt. Kamboj at max can be like Bhuvi
Ultimate_Game Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 8 hours ago, Lord said: That doesn't mean anybody on bench is better. So do you want Prasidh to play ahead of Kamboj despite Prasidh being a proven and an abject failure? Manucrick 1
Ultimate_Game Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 8 hours ago, Lord said: Everyone not playing looks better In case of Prasidh they're actually better.
vvvslaxman Posted July 21, 2025 Posted July 21, 2025 Kamboj is one of the very few fast bowlers with braced front knee. AMong the current only Bumrah and Cummins have braced front leg. Even their slow release speed deliveres can be faster. Rabada, Hazlewood, Siraj, Starc they all collapse.
Lord Posted July 22, 2025 Posted July 22, 2025 2 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: So do you want Prasidh to play ahead of Kamboj despite Prasidh being a proven and an abject failure? no I want Harshit in place of both. Kamboj is useless too. express bowling 1
Suhaan Posted July 22, 2025 Posted July 22, 2025 10 hours ago, express bowling said: I think Harshit was kept as a cover for Prasidh, who had a minor niggle. They are both classified as tall, bouncy, quick pacers ( although Prasidh did not do his job at all in tests ). After Prasidh recovered, Harshit was sent back. Now Kamboj is being brought in place of Arshdeep, both being classified as new ball bowlers. I was in favour of retaining Harshit as he is a very competitive and smart pacer unlike Prasidh. Yes Harshit should have stayed express bowling and Mosher 2
Suhaan Posted July 22, 2025 Posted July 22, 2025 3 hours ago, Lord said: no I want Harshit in place of both. Kamboj is useless too. Yes,there is a huge question mark about his pace of he continues for long spells No point bowling long spells as at 125-128, as these Eng batters will batter India to dust Lord, express bowling and Mosher 3
lemsip Posted July 22, 2025 Posted July 22, 2025 1 hour ago, Suhaan said: Yes,there is a huge question mark about his pace of he continues for long spells No point bowling long spells as at 125-128, as these Eng batters will batter India to dust Harshit Rana had a marked drop off in pace as he got to his second and third spells in Australia. He seemed to run out of puff the longer the innings went on. Unless he has improved his fitness, I cannot see him getting through a 5 day test without a similar issue in this series as well. Like with a lot of players, he seems the panacea because he is not in the squad.
Suhaan Posted July 22, 2025 Posted July 22, 2025 21 minutes ago, lemsip said: Harshit Rana had a marked drop off in pace as he got to his second and third spells in Australia. He seemed to run out of puff the longer the innings went on. Unless he has improved his fitness, I cannot see him getting through a 5 day test without a similar issue in this series as well. Like with a lot of players, he seems the panacea because he is not in the squad. Harshit has played a grand total of 2 tests, certainly not naming him because he's not in the squad,yes he drops his pace but can up it the same way in mid of an spell Go through his spells in domestics He was impressive in Perth,who else we should have gone for ,is the bench loaded with pacers? Mosher and express bowling 2
lemsip Posted July 22, 2025 Posted July 22, 2025 58 minutes ago, Suhaan said: He was impressive in Perth,who else we should have gone for ,is the bench loaded with pacers? There is no real need to pack the squad with "pacers" in Manchester. What they need is a group of additional bowlers who can bowl with control and not leak runs. Bumrah and Siraj are playing as he front line seamers anyway so the key ask from others is to keep control as well as pick up the odd wicket. Harshit may have many qualities but control is not his key attribute. He can do an enforcer type role when required but I don't think the current makeup of the rest of the squad accomodates that
Suhaan Posted July 22, 2025 Posted July 22, 2025 18 minutes ago, lemsip said: There is no real need to pack the squad with "pacers" in Manchester. What they need is a group of additional bowlers who can bowl with control and not leak runs. Bumrah and Siraj are playing as he front line seamers anyway so the key ask from others is to keep control as well as pick up the odd wicket. Harshit may have many qualities but control is not his key attribute. He can do an enforcer type role when required but I don't think the current makeup of the rest of the squad accomodates that I was talking about the overall bench strength wrt pacers Siraj is going to play 4 tests in a row,I don't think he too can maintain his lines and stamina is already in question Mosher 1
Ultimate_Game Posted July 22, 2025 Posted July 22, 2025 16 hours ago, Lord said: no I want Harshit in place of both. Kamboj is useless too. He did well in the warm up games. Both Harshit and Kamboj should be ahead of Prasidh Krishna.
Lord Posted July 22, 2025 Posted July 22, 2025 6 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: He did well in the warm up games. Both Harshit and Kamboj should be ahead of Prasidh Krishna. He took 5 wickets in 3 innings. Nothing special.
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