Pak tour of SA discussion thread | 3 T20I, 3 ODI & 2 Tests | 12 Dec - 3 Jan

[The Hound]

They got an opening batsman Jordan Hermann who should be in test team. If they don't pick him soon I can see England trying to poach him. 

[rollingstoned]

5 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

Was about to say this.  No doubt the pitches are tough to bat on.  But on home grounds, a top order batter is supposed to perform atleast once in 4 innings.  This hack is just not good enough for tests.  Struggled against SL too at home.  Now has failed to last even 5 mins in both innings of this test. SA team selection is as bizzare as ours. 

He had a good series against SL. In the first innings he couldn't do anything about a ball which shot through. he is capable of eating up balls and playing time when needed.

[Gollum]

Same mistake as India against NZ. Make such lottery pitches and bring opposition into the game. Happened against us as well earlier this year in that ridiculous 92 overs finish. 

[Norman]

36 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

@Norman Ab kya bologe janaab!!  SA choking badly.  

 

Still a long way to go..

 

Still there's no way your statment of "pakistan having more skilled players than us" is true irrespective of the result. 

 

India even with the old geriatrics would smash this weakened South African bowling.

[rollingstoned]

14 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Same mistake as India against NZ. Make such lottery pitches and bring opposition into the game. Happened against us as well earlier this year in that ridiculous 92 overs finish. 

pitches in SL series were actually good but i cannot remember last time when pitch in Highveld and CT were not extremely challenging. if match doesn't get over in 4 days it is surprising.

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, Gollum said:

Same mistake as India against NZ. Make such lottery pitches and bring opposition into the game. Happened against us as well earlier this year in that ridiculous 92 overs finish. 

they have a good chance of losing this match. would be fun if Pak beats them 2-0 - can happen thanks to Saudi's batting.

[First class]

If SA made to the final of WTC, it will be an easy victory for the opposing team , whether it would be India or Australia . This SA team is such a weak one  , even for their own standard, lucky to be with a chance to be in the final. 

[First class]

Poor umpiring , two LBWs were plumb out but not given by umpires , was an easy review for Pakistan and got both out. Particularly Stubbs should have been and easy .decision for the umpire . 

[Frustrated]

SA top order looks extremely vulnerable. It's their lower middle order and tailenders who bailed them out in 1st inning.   If SA reaches WTC final, it should be an easy victory for Aus.  

[Frustrated]

56 minutes ago, First class said:

Poor umpiring , two LBWs were plumb out but not given by umpires , was an easy review for Pakistan and got both out. Particularly Stubbs should have been and easy .decision for the umpire . 

Agree.   Rickelton & Stubbs both were plumb LBWs.  Not given by the on-field umpire.  Overturned by DRS.  Overall, the on-field umpiring has been pretty ordinary throughout the test. 

[Iconoclast]

1 hour ago, Frustrated said:

SA top order looks extremely vulnerable. It's their lower middle order and tailenders who bailed them out in 1st inning.   If SA reaches WTC final, it should be an easy victory for Aus.  

 

On a flat track Aus will have the advantage.

 

Any lateral movement and their batters poop their pants.

[Vijy]

2 hours ago, Frustrated said:

SA top order looks extremely vulnerable. It's their lower middle order and tailenders who bailed them out in 1st inning.   If SA reaches WTC final, it should be an easy victory for Aus.  

Yes, and they choke massively too. They will lose 2-0 vs Pak, as they did against SL

[Frustrated]

1 hour ago, Vijy said:

Yes, and they choke massively too. They will lose 2-0 vs Pak, as they did against SL

This SA vs Pak test is 50:50 right now.  SA beat SL 2-0 last month.  

[Vijy]

Just now, Frustrated said:

This SA vs Pak test is 50:50 right now.  SA beat SL 2-0 last month.  

I meant the famous series in the past where SL beat SA 2-0 in SA.

[Frustrated]

Just now, Vijy said:

I meant the famous series in the past where SL beat SA 2-0 in SA.

Ohh.  Ok.  Got it. 

[Vijy]

Just now, Frustrated said:

Ohh.  Ok.  Got it. 

Pak looking good to beat SA in 1st test. when pressure is applied, SA typically choke. Bavuma is a clutch player, but the rest seem pretty fragile except for Markram

[rollingstoned]

This would have been in the bag had Poyz not thrown away a few wickets in their 2nd innings. They were looking quite comfortable but got out playing stupid shots to innocuous deliveries. 

Edited December 29, 2024 by rollingstoned

[Vijy]

35 minutes ago, rollingstoned said:

This would have been in the bag had Poyz not thrown away a few wickets in their 2nd innings. They were looking quite comfortable but got out playing stupid shots to innocuous deliveries. 

took SA attack a bit too lightly.

[Sean Bradley]

Watching this match now, entire Pakistan team when they cheer their bowlers up behind the stumps sounds like goats bleating. Does anyone else notice that? 

Edited December 29, 2024 by Sean Bradley

[rollingstoned]

Bavuma gets injured every time I see him batting. Hardly I can remember a time when he did not take treatment while batting.