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2 hours ago, Mariyam said:

 

 

Re: the reel posted by @diga, the speaker is *mocking* the ways of the shayars. She is not glorifying Urdu as a language but in general saying that long winded prose loses out to concise communication in this age. The event is the Jashn e Rekhta, which I mentioned a few posts back. Shall post the entire video later when I find it on YT.

Taking a sentence out of context and putting the title "Glorification of Urdu" is disingenuous. 

 

You are setting a narrative here! That Urdu is being imposed on innocent Hindus by Bollywood to brainwash them into hating their own customs and history. And then you go on to show random scenes from flop movies in the annexe to support your claim. Who has even watched Bemisal? And even if many have, do we take history lessons from movies because AB in an unrelated scene in an obscure movie in the 70s/80s said so?

 

Let me give you a counter:

Watch from 1:40

 

A caricaturish portrayal of nawabs and their entourage. Mocking of their way of speech etc. Does it anger me? Not at all. Its a movie. Its comedy. I laugh it off, even when I see it now, and absolutely love the movie.

I don't call it a conspiracy of "Hinduwood" to demoralize and misguide Muslims about their culture.

 

That @coffee_rules sahab is the difference in our viewpoints.

 

Having a few Persian words sprinkled in a song is a cardinal sin, but a song starting with Sayonara Sayonara is okay? Senoirita from Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara has an entire mukhda in Spanish. Nashe se chaddh gayi hai has French sprinkled along the way.

Duplicitous that there is no objection raised here. No comments on how the poor viewers would relate to those languages. Why is that?

 

Thanks for clarifying about the reel. I never claimed imposed on Hindus by Hollywood. It's a preferrence , while the amount of Urdu speakers are less compared to other languages. It's not just Bemisal, but a lot of writers do write on similar lines. Maybe there is a concerted effort or maybe this is a conspiracy., hardto be convinced that it is conspiracy.  Regarding Japanese or French words, those movies are set in those countries, so goes with the story.  

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On 1/22/2025 at 8:30 PM, BacktoCricaddict said:

This is exactly why I am against the irreversible penalty of death. Much too often the wrong person is arrested, confessions forced out of them and guilty verdicts handed to them based on false evidence. Not just in India but everywhere.

 

Meanwhile the real perpetrator is running free, and there are 2 victims of injustice. At least if the convicted person was kept alive there's a small chance at redemption.

 

Bottom line: even one wrongful death at the hands of the state is a threat to civilized society. 

 

Sorry this is not about Saif, but I couldn't help but put the incompetence of law enforcement in a wider context. 

 

I suppose it is not good form to respond to one's own post, but I had to share this as more evidence for why we must eliminate the death penalty. 

 

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Today the Dallas County Commissioners Court declared Tommy Lee Walker innocent of the 1953 rape and murder of Venice Parker, for which he was wrongfully executed 70 years ago. Mr. Walker was 19 at the time of his wrongful arrest and was executed less than three years later. After a years-long joint reinvestigation by the Dallas County District Attorney’s Conviction Integrity Unit, the Innocence Project, and the Civil Rights and Restorative Justice Project (CRRJ) at Northeastern University School of Law, it was concluded that, “Mr. Walker’s arrest, interrogation, prosecution, and conviction were fundamentally compromised by false or unreliable evidence, coercive interrogation tactics, and racial bias.” 

“The court’s declaration today provides some semblance of belated justice to Mr. Walker’s legacy, and to his son, our client Edward Smith,” said Chris Fabricant, one of Mr. Smith’s Innocence Project attorneys. “Mr. Smith has carried the generational trauma of the irreparable injustice his father faced at the hands of the State. Acknowledging what we know to be truth — that false evidence, misconduct, and overt racism led to the execution of an innocent man — albeit 70 years later, is essential to the integrity of our legal system, the historical fabric of this country, and most importantly it is an acknowledgment of the unspeakable burden Mr. Smith and his family have carried for decades. We are thankful to District Attorney Creuzot and the Dallas County Commissioners for their willingness to formally recognize this gross and unforgivable miscarriage of justice.”

“At the end of the day, our criminal justice system must address its fatal errors, no matter how long ago they occurred,” said Northeastern Law Professor Margaret Burnham, CRRJ director and co-counsel to Mr. Smith. 

 

https://innocenceproject.org/news/tommy-lee-walker-is-declared-innocent-70-years-after-his-execution-in-dallas/?f_src=FY26_em_01222026_gen_nmat_campTommyLeeWalkerExoneration_read_IP_FY26readIPTommyLeeWalkerExonerationMain_Main_mainbutton&utm_source=email&utm_medium=email

 

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https://reason.com/2026/07/24/will-this-mississippi-man-on-death-row-get-a-chance-to-prove-his-innocence/

 

Another article on how the finality of the death penalty can remove any hope of recourse for the wrongfully convicted 

 

Bennett's case, several forensic experts have concluded that Hayne and West made critical interpretive errors in Brandon's autopsy. Most notably, they attributed over a dozen abrasions on Brandon's body to Devin's alleged abuse. Yet when Brandon arrived at the first hospital, a nurse found no unusual marks on Brandon's body and noticed no abnormalities on the head or rest of the body.

Had anyone explored Brandon's previous medical records (which were at the hospital) or checked with child protective services, they would have learned that Brandon never showed medical evidence of bruising. Bennett and his girlfriend never missed a pediatrician appointment. According to Bennett, the only potentially negative thing they had ever been accused of doing to Brandon was overfeeding him.

Between the initial emergency room visit and Brandon's transfer to another hospital, Brandon underwent more than one unsuccessful intubation, several resuscitation efforts, and organ harvesting. All cause bruising and abrasions.

Bennett's attorneys argue that what Hayne presented as evidence of shaken baby syndrome could have been bruising caused by medical professionals trying to save Brandon from the effects of a fall.

 
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