Lone Wolf Posted June 30, 2025 Posted June 30, 2025 (edited) NDTV has some serious moolah... Buying high resolution costly sat images.. thanks to all this India has managed to tell its side of the story at least. Someone should tell them to buy high resolution Noor Khan Airbase images (probably they won't do that) cos of Murican pressure to not make it go public Edited June 30, 2025 by Lone Wolf
coffee_rules Posted June 30, 2025 Posted June 30, 2025 Private sector defense investment in India singhvivek141 1
singhvivek141 Posted June 30, 2025 Posted June 30, 2025 6 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Private sector defense investment in India Hope the funding isnt from "foreign" sources.. coffee_rules 1
Chaos Posted July 1, 2025 Posted July 1, 2025 On 6/30/2025 at 5:44 AM, Lone Wolf said: They account for civilian casualties as we are supposedly "Buddha ka desh"... Otherwise lower cost Pinaka rockets should have been fired after our Civilian casualties in Poonch. 60-70km version is operational already.. aim at their military installations even if they aren't guided & there are civilian casualties then so be it. Mirpuris and Pakjabis should be roasted next time without a second thought. i was a trump supporter, but he has been erratic. He is picking fights with everyone including musk. But musky also dsnt back down.
Lone Wolf Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 Seems GoI is itself Blackpilled.. already costly imports from Russia are on the way. Putin has offered attack subs on lease as per reports which is a lucrative offer even if costly. Rest everything indigenous is delayed. Kaveri and Uttam AESA radar are huge setbacks.
randomGuy Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 On 6/29/2025 at 9:59 PM, Lone Wolf said: I think it was crucial to go there .. India has nothing to hide. Indonesia, Malaysia have highlighted Pakistan's losses and overall Indian armed response has been praised. Pakistan boycotted the event meanwhile. Indian Defence attache's remarks were when Indian losses were shown which were exaggerated as per him. Obviously he said Indian losses were far and few but only happened because of political constraints and ROE being forced upon them to not attack Pak Air defense systems and military installations. They rectified it later on. CDS already gave the signal earlier on to political brass to not interfere next time sh*t is about to go down. As per BRF guys it might have been laser eyes who came up with RoE shtick first up and might have forced Top G who probably lacked knowledge about SEAD/DEAD advantage in such a scenario. That's why the 15 minutes warning statement also came from him. Hence now they seem miffed with laser eyes and he has been sidelined. Tharoor might soon jump ship and laser eyes postion may become under threat. In balakot as well as in Op sindoor, we targeted their terrorist infrastructure. If there was no criticism for balakot and why now? We have declared policy now after op sindoor that pakistan army will be targeted for terrorism.
Lone Wolf Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, randomGuy said: If there was no criticism for balakot and why now There was criticism post Balakot after Operation swift "retard" by PAF. This was the first time IAF experienced BVR combat and came to know about its advantages. India lacked Air to air BVR missiles to Target Pakistani AWACS and jets. PAF has been long been armed by Americans on their F16's with BVR Missiles. And Jf17 with PL15E of Chinese in 2019. We didn't had S400 either to target Pakistani AWACS like in Op Sindoor.. Forget BVR Missiles. Till now indigenous Astra Mk1 is inducted on Tejas and MKI's.. 60-70 km range. Astra And Netra AWACS program was given a push post Balakot learnings. From op Sindoor we learnt that Rafale are still not integrated with French 200km ranged Meteor BVRAAM. They are saying very soon. Overall it was established that Balakot wasn't enough deterrence. Paxtani terrorist are in a non stop supply and real authority and control and command sits in Pindi GHQ. That's where the Tap actually is. Without Targeting Pakistani military there is no point of an operation. Operation Sindoor is successful because we managed to hit their Military and PAF bases. This is the benchmark when you have to deal with a terrorist Jihadi nation like Paxtan. Target their military.. terrorist are useless cannon fodder. Edited July 2, 2025 by Lone Wolf
randomGuy Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 (edited) 5 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: There was criticism post Balakot after Operation swift "retard" by PAF. This was the first time IAF experienced BVR combat and came to know about its advantages. India lacked Air to air BVR missiles to Target Pakistani AWACS and jets. PAF has been long been armed by Americans on their F16's with BVR Missiles. And Jf17 with PL15E of Chinese in 2019. We didn't had S400 either to target Pakistani AWACS like in Op Sindoor.. Forget BVR Missiles. Till now indigenous Astra Mk1 is inducted on Tejas and MKI's.. 60-70 km range. Astra And Netra AWACS program was given a push post Balakot learnings. From op Sindoor we learnt that Rafale are still not integrated with French 200km ranged Meteor BVRAAM. They are saying very soon. Overall it was established that Balakot wasn't enough deterrence. Paxtani terrorist are in a non stop supply and real authority and control and command sits in Pindi GHQ. That's where the Tap actually is. Without Targeting Pakistani military there is no point of an operation. Operation Sindoor is successful because we managed to hit their Military and PAF bases. This is the benchmark when you have to deal with a terrorist Jihadi nation like Paxtan. Target their military.. terrorist are useless cannon fodder. This Govt. also did everything, talks(modi going to pakistan impromptu), joint investigation (Pathankot). And gradually increased response from Uri to balakot to operation Sindoor. And in the meanwhile, 1.increased indias capabilities. Not many would have thought there's such a huge difference in AD, missile and drone capabilities of India and Pakistan. 2.Done covert work also, proof is pakistans internal security situation. And now made it a policy of considering act of terrorism as an act of war. And finally, we have more or less scrapped indus water treaty which could be a fatal blow to their agriculture and economy . Edited July 2, 2025 by randomGuy
Lone Wolf Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, randomGuy said: And now made it a policy of considering act of terrorism as an act of war Coz they found to their surprise that Paxtan military can be targeted. And India can control escalation ladder. They didn't had the confidence to do that in Uri and especially Balakot when PAF actually retaliated. Uri and Balakot were insufficient responses in the long run. Learnings from Balakot was actually that next time Pak military will be Targeted but yet needless RoE were followed in early ops threatening life of pilots and aircrafts. The message seem to have been passed earlier by CDS and subsequently defence attaches to not interfere next time and let them do their jobs. If they can Target our Civilians.. military should have full authority to launch rocket artillery Edited July 2, 2025 by Lone Wolf Lord 1
test fan Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 -India unblocked Pakistani actors Instagram accounts -India unblocked Pakistani YouTube channels – India gonna play with Pakistan in upcoming Asia Cup This is all happening when we lost our 26 innocent civilians in Pahalgam just 2 months back. Congratulations whoever voted for BJP and celebrated when Jay Shah became part of BCCI / ICC . Sare haramjade paise ke bhuke hai
randomGuy Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said: Coz they found to their surprise that Paxtan military can be targeted. And India can control escalation ladder. They didn't had the confidence to do that in Uri and especially Balakot when PAF actually retaliated. Uri and Balakot were insufficient responses in the long run. Learnings from Balakot was actually that next time Pak military will be Targeted but yet needless RoE were followed in early ops threatening life of pilots and aircrafts. The message seem to have been passed earlier by CDS and subsequently defence attaches to not interfere next time and let them do their jobs. If they can Target our Civilians.. military should have full authority to launch rocket artillery Akash AD has been arnd and has been continuously improved but S400 was first deployed only in 2021. Balakot was 2019.
Lone Wolf Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 (edited) 25 minutes ago, randomGuy said: Akash AD has been arnd and has been continuously improved but S400 was first deployed only in 2021. Balakot was 2019. That's why I said IAF lacked BVR Missiles to Target AWACs in 2019 while PAF had us outmatched there in both AWACS and BVR missile capability.. Life pre S400 was not easy. Even now they have 7 operational AWACs, 2 were destroyed (1 by S400) in Op Sindoor. In 2019 number was 9 to India's 3. Right now we have 6. Akash can't engage PAF fighters from long ranges nor Sophisticated AWACS systems who are far away. MRSAM and Barak 8 can but they are protecting Capital city. S400 is on our forward bases in Punjab and covers most of Pakistani Punjab and NWFP and PoK bases. AWACS had to be hidden from it. Edited July 2, 2025 by Lone Wolf randomGuy 1
rkt.india Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 6 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: That's why I said IAF lacked BVR Missiles to Target AWACs in 2019 while PAF had us outmatched there in both AWACS and BVR missile capability.. Life pre S400 was not easy. Even now they have 7 operational AWACs, 2 were destroyed (1 by S400) in Op Sindoor. In 2019 number was 9 to India's 3. Right now we have 6. Akash can't engage PAF fighters from long ranges nor Sophisticated AWACS systems who are far away. MRSAM and Barak 8 can but they are protecting Capital city. S400 is on our forward bases in Punjab and covers most of Pakistani Punjab and NWFP and PoK bases. AWACS had to be hidden from it. UPA did nothing in ten years on defence front. coffee_rules 1
MechEng Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 50 minutes ago, test fan said: -India unblocked Pakistani actors Instagram accounts -India unblocked Pakistani YouTube channels – India gonna play with Pakistan in upcoming Asia Cup This is all happening when we lost our 26 innocent civilians in Pahalgam just 2 months back. Congratulations whoever voted for BJP and celebrated when Jay Shah became part of BCCI / ICC . Sare haramjade paise ke bhuke hai Asia Cup is understood but why the above 2?
Lone Wolf Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 (edited) 14 minutes ago, rkt.india said: UPA did nothing in ten years on defence front. More like 2014-2019 was when PAF gained edge via Jf17 and Pl15 Missiles. IAF woke up only after 2019. MoD and Import lobby cut commission kickbag reigned supreme. Indian Navy otoh remained professional and look at them now. Tejas ,MRFA deals have been around for 2 decades look at their state. Kaveri engine as well 3 decades without any breakthrough or funding. Modi ji had a chance to cement his legacy by making sure India finally having their own engine but that dream is over for now. 2036-37 is next hopeful date if AMCA comes and that's a shoot in the sky estimate by everyone as of now.. And AMCA program is still in cold storage since last 16-17 years now. Any government can import but indigenous manufacturing takes vison and investment.. and sadly Babudom reigns supreme in India. Edited July 2, 2025 by Lone Wolf
Lone Wolf Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 (edited) Raita Wing and even IT cell seem dejected today. Nationalist handles are in blackpill mode. US has pulled it's string looks like. J Laser eyes in US... What else we can expect. Edited July 2, 2025 by Lone Wolf
MechEng Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 4 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Raita Wing and even IT cell seem dejected today. Nationalist handles are in blackpill mode. US has pulled it's string looks like. J Laser eyes in US... What else we can expect. What does US gain with Pak youtube channels?
test fan Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 13 minutes ago, MechEng said: Asia Cup is understood but why the above 2? Because MODI is coward just like when he accepted the ceasefire
Lone Wolf Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 (edited) 4 minutes ago, MechEng said: What does US gain with Pak youtube channels? Pressure tactics on India... GoI giving slow blows to general public before the obvious Kicker the IWT resumption.. ( it is already working btw) but Chenab's flow is under Our control to some extent. CIA activated Dalai Lama today who announced his successor will be decided by himself. China said it will have its own Dalai Lama. Ground is being prepared for further hostilities. God tier foreign policy from Muricans really. Edited July 2, 2025 by Lone Wolf
MechEng Posted July 2, 2025 Posted July 2, 2025 19 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Pressure tactics on India... GoI giving slow blows to general public before the obvious Kicker the IWT resumption.. ( it is already working btw) but Chenab's flow is under Our control to some extent. CIA activated Dalai Lama today who announced his successor will be decided by himself. China said it will have its own Dalai Lama. Ground is being prepared for further hostilities. God tier foreign policy from Muricans really. Why go to temples when God literally resides in the land of free?
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