Australian strategy of Carey keeping up to fast bowlers

[Rightarmfast]

2 hours ago, Gollum said:

Keeping up to pacers this comfortably, last time someone did that was probably Jack Russell in the 90s.

 

Amazing keeping, Carey is so underrated, even as a batsman he scores tough, impactful runs. 

TBH, during Russel's era, English team hardly had any quick bowlers apart from Darren Gough. And he might not have come up for Gough. Goughie was a pretty good bowler, great bowler actually. So farking underrated on this forum.

[vvvslaxman]

Fast bowlers don't like it :)

 

 

 

[G_B_]

Msd did that with bhuvi praveen kumar etc

 

 

[tapandrun]

Aus announced the T20 wc team no back-up wk to inglis

[vvvslaxman]

Now NZ is following suit. Got two wickets.  Henry trapped both Root ad Brook infront.

[express bowling]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Now NZ is following suit. Got two wickets.  Henry trapped both Root ad Brook infront.

 

Probably because Henry is bowling 127 to 130 k.

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Probably because Henry is bowling 127 to 130 k.

 

Not just that. Both Root and Broook repeatedly came down the wicket against him. Brook did that against O rourke also and smashed him for six over cover. But you can't stand up to o rourke.

[express bowling]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Not just that. Both Root and Broook repeatedly came down the wicket against him. Brook did that against O rourke also and smashed him for six over cover. But you can't stand up to o rourke.

 

That's my point. 

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, express bowling said:

 

That's my point. 

Also he gets good seam movement. Not sure everyone can pull this off. Making top players like Root, Brook completely miss the line  completely because they are creasebound.

[express bowling]

Just now, vvvslaxman said:

Also he gets good seam movement. Not sure everyone can pull this off. Making top players like Root, Brook completely miss the line  completely because they are creasebound.

 

Batters are supposed to be creasebound in test matches when facing pacers. 

 

It's just that some modern batters like Brook have weaker defenses and they make up by attacking the bowlers. 

 

Take away their attacking ability and they become vulnerable. 

 

Root is expected to have a better defense against in-seam but this is probable a weakness he has developed.

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, express bowling said:

 

Batters are supposed to be creasebound in test matches when facing pacers. 

 

It's just that some modern batters like Brook have weaker defenses and they make up by attacking the bowlers. 

 

Take away their attacking ability and they become vulnerable. 

 

Root is expected to have a better defense against in-seam but this is probable a weakness he has developed.

 

 

They just showed the dismissal of Brook against Akash deep when keeper stood up. Broook was clean bowled as he tried to sweep it. It is not just his weakness. Lot of batsmen who are generally playing with positive mindset. GIll also got out in England when the keeper stood up. It probably is a bad idea against Sundar o Jadeja as they can block you all day. 

[Vk1]

32 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Batters are supposed to be creasebound in test matches when facing pacers. 

 

It's just that some modern batters like Brook have weaker defenses and they make up by attacking the bowlers. 

 

Take away their attacking ability and they become vulnerable. 

 

Root is expected to have a better defense against in-seam but this is probable a weakness he has developed.

Brook will take sometime to develop and might become a better version of KP.. scary.

[vvvslaxman]

19 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

Brook will take sometime to develop and might become a better version of KP.. scary.

Hope he doesn't change too much. He is entertaining to watch when he plays agressively. He is a bitl ike Pant

[tapandrun]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

Batters are supposed to be creasebound in test matches when facing pacers. 

 

It's just that some modern batters like Brook have weaker defenses and they make up by attacking the bowlers. 

 

Take away their attacking ability and they become vulnerable. 

 

Root is expected to have a better defense against in-seam but this is probable a weakness he has developed.

 

Standing up to the stumps against medium-pacers is a long-standing cricket tactic, also used by pairings like Kumar Sangakkara and Chaminda Vaas,

That controls a batter by locking them inside their crease. By placing the wicketkeeper directly behind the stumps, the batter loses the ability to advance down the pitch to smother swing or retreat deep to gain extra reaction time. Pinned in this position, the batter is forced to use a highly restricted forward press, which creates doubt and forces them to play the ball much later.

For a bowler utilizing late lateral movement like an "indipper," this delay prevents the batter from meeting the ball at the right time and maximizes its deviation. This makes the batter highly susceptible to being bowled, trapped LBW, or edgeing the ball, while a skilled wicketkeeper adds stumping as a constant threat to round out these modes of dismissal.

Ultimately, this strategy demonstrates how a disciplined partnership between a sharp-reflexed keeper and an accurate bowler can effectively neutralize a batter's footwork.

 

This works longtime whn  both wk and bowler are v.good, if not than batters kind of uses this to their favour as they know the general length the bowler can bowl with wk stnding-up

 

 

 

Edited June 18 by tapandrun

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

 

Standing up to the stumps against medium-pacers is a long-standing cricket tactic, also used by pairings like Kumar Sangakkara and Chaminda Vaas,

That controls a batter by locking them inside their crease. By placing the wicketkeeper directly behind the stumps, the batter loses the ability to advance down the pitch to smother swing or retreat deep to gain extra reaction time. Pinned in this position, the batter is forced to use a highly restricted forward press, which creates doubt and forces them to play the ball much later.

For a bowler utilizing late lateral movement like an "indipper," this delay prevents the batter from meeting the ball at the right time and maximizes its deviation. This makes the batter highly susceptible to being bowled, trapped LBW, or edgeing the ball, while a skilled wicketkeeper adds stumping as a constant threat to round out these modes of dismissal.

Ultimately, this strategy demonstrates how a disciplined partnership between a sharp-reflexed keeper and an accurate bowler can effectively neutralize a batter's footwork.

 

This works longtime whn  both wk and bowler are v.good, if not than batters kind of uses this to their favour as they know the general length the bowler can bowl with wk stnding-up

 

 

 

 

 

It is a strategy that they should have tried  when England chased 370 odd in the 5th test. They repeatedly ventured out and brutalized our bowling especially Siraj. India needs a capable keeper to manage this against aggressive partnerships.

[Lord]

It restricts the bowlers too. They are not comfortable bowling bouncers anymore

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

It restricts the bowlers too. They are not comfortable bowling bouncers anymore

It is strictly useful for line and length bwolers not raw pace bowlers. It helped Neser. Henry is a metronomic bowler who rarely bowls bad balls.

[tapandrun]

7 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

 

It is a strategy that they should have tried  when England chased 370 odd in the 5th test. They repeatedly ventured out and brutalized our bowling especially Siraj. India needs a capable keeper to manage this against aggressive partnerships.

Siraj is not that accurate bowling with in the stump lines, plus do not think rishab is used to stnding-up to wkts , its kind of a special skills.

 

Dhoni didnt like to stand-up to wkt he use to come for 1/2 ball and then go back. 

 

Best candidate amongst Ind bowler would have been bhuvi he was accurate and can move the ball in both directions

Edited June 19 by tapandrun

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, tapandrun said:

Siraj is not that accurate bowling with in the stump lines, plus do not think rishab is used to stnding-up to wkts , its kind of a special skills.

 

Dhoni didnt like to stand-up to wkt he use to come for 1/2 ball and then go back. 

 

Best candidate amongst Ind bowler would have been bhuvi he was accurate and can move the ball in both directions

I think JUrel did briefly in the ENgland series when Pant got injured.  Brook got bowled by AKash deep around his legs with keeper standing up.

[Vk1]

10 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Hope he doesn't change too much. He is entertaining to watch when he plays agressively. He is a bitl ike Pant

honestly, I feel he is the best talent to emerge in cricket since Kohli