Nitish Kumar pulls down woman's veil at event, opposition questions his mental state

[kepler37b]

8 hours ago, Gollum said:

This lady is an AYUSH doctor, so not really a doctor, just a fraud. 

 

This entire AYUSH and Patanjali/Ramdev alternative medicine is slow deadly poison which finds patronage under this anti-science government and support from whatsapp uncles. This crime on Indian people deserves another thread @Lone Wolf @Lord @New guy, so many issues to target the govt like this ooga booga medicine or FSSAI gandmasti, all of which will combine to play havoc on Indian public health, but opposition finds the most pointless topics which don't resonate with or affect the aam aadmi. 

The aam admi himself is not intereted in a solution with communal benefit. He often wants something that can benefit him alone.

 

[coffee_rules]

12 hours ago, Gollum said:

This lady is an AYUSH doctor, so not really a doctor, just a fraud. 

 

This entire AYUSH and Patanjali/Ramdev alternative medicine is slow deadly poison which finds patronage under this anti-science government and support from whatsapp uncles. This crime on Indian people deserves another thread @Lone Wolf @Lord @New guy, so many issues to target the govt like this ooga booga medicine or FSSAI gandmasti, all of which will combine to play havoc on Indian public health, but opposition finds the most pointless topics which don't resonate with or affect the aam aadmi. 

I wouldn’t put Ayurveda in the same bracket as quackery like Unani or Homeopathy . Surgery and Indian medicine was there in India even before Allopathy. A lot of bad press on Ayurveda is basically from big pharma. India needs to invest on scientific research of Ayurvedic medicine. I am living proof of its use. idea is It should not be replaced by Allopathy , but used as supplemental to it. Go with renowned practitioners and not your Patanjali  type quacks. I have never used any Of their products

[singhvivek141]

10 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

I wouldn’t put Ayurveda in the same bracket as quackery like Unani or Homeopathy . Surgery and Indian medicine was there in India even before Allopathy. A lot of bad press on Ayurveda is basically from big pharma. India needs to invest on scientific research of Ayurvedic medicine. I am living proof of its use. idea is It should not be replaced by Allopathy , but used as supplemental to it. Go with renowned practitioners and not your Patanjali  type quacks. I have never used any Of their products

Patanjali too isnt that bad.

My elder bro has diabetes type 2 and he was gulping 3-4 allopathy medicines every day. Needn't tell you how costly they're.

 

Went to Patanjali ashram for 2 months...followed their strict diet, lost quite a lot of weight and post coming back he is down to just one ayurbedic medicine per day and one glass of karela juice a week.

Sugar levels oscillate in pre-diabetes range, he is happy now that he needn't carry medicines where ever he goes to.

[Gollum]

10 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

I wouldn’t put Ayurveda in the same bracket as quackery like Unani or Homeopathy . Surgery and Indian medicine was there in India even before Allopathy. A lot of bad press on Ayurveda is basically from big pharma. India needs to invest on scientific research of Ayurvedic medicine. I am living proof of its use. idea is It should not be replaced by Allopathy , but used as supplemental to it. Go with renowned practitioners and not your Patanjali  type quacks. I have never used any Of their products

Ayurveda, Yoga etc. may have some benefits for holistic health but there are so many false claims about them. Ministers who promote AYUSH ultimately send their near and dear ones for allopathy treatment or abroad when **** hits the fan. But they keep fooling gullible Indians claiming miracle benefits, did the same during covid crisis. 

[Gollum]

21 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Patanjali too isnt that bad.

My elder bro has diabetes type 2 and he was gulping 3-4 allopathy medicines every day. Needn't tell you how costly they're.

 

Went to Patanjali ashram for 2 months...followed their strict diet, lost quite a lot of weight and post coming back he is down to just one ayurbedic medicine per day and one glass of karela juice a week.

Sugar levels oscillate in pre-diabetes range, he is happy now that he needn't carry medicines where ever he goes to.

Bro, personal anecdotes shouldn't get precedence over published medical research literature. 

 

I am glad that your brother is in a better state of health now. But don't you think his turnaround came because of a disciplined lifestyle, less stress (better sleep quality?), dietary habits, and physical activities during his stay in the ashram? 2 months of good habits can go a long way in healing your body. 

[Gollum]

AYUSH budget this year s 4000 cr. Have seen some Siddha quacks selling heavy metals based pills as medical cures to my relatives. As part of my research I was fabricating a material to reduce Arsenic contamination in groundwater in eastern parts of India (esp. Bengal where it is the largest mass poisoning in the world), and here some of my own (well educated) relatives were consuming Arsenic laden garbage, so infuriating. 

 

This much money blown on fraud, unacceptable for a country like India which invests close to nothing in medical research. We sure do have our priorities messed up. 

Edited December 25, 2025 by Gollum

[singhvivek141]

17 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Bro, personal anecdotes shouldn't get precedence over published medical research literature. 

 

I am glad that your brother is in a better state of health now. But don't you think his turnaround came because of a disciplined lifestyle, less stress (better sleep quality?), dietary habits, and physical activities during his stay in the ashram? 2 months of good habits can go a long way in healing your body. 

In a way, yes. He till date acknowledges that in Patanjali, his habits were pushed away and change was forced. He started consuming bottle gourd and bitter gourd which he never touched in his whole life, but there he had no choice coz thats the food he was given, plus daily yoga.

 

But IMO thats what Ayurveda is...improving your life in totality instead of just focusing on one issue. 

 

Even in case of neurodiverse kids, Ayurvedic therapies have had much larger impact than allopathy like STEM Cell surgeries. 

[randomGuy]

2 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Patanjali too isnt that bad.

My elder bro has diabetes type 2 and he was gulping 3-4 allopathy medicines every day. Needn't tell you how costly they're.

 

Went to Patanjali ashram for 2 months...followed their strict diet, lost quite a lot of weight and post coming back he is down to just one ayurbedic medicine per day and one glass of karela juice a week.

Sugar levels oscillate in pre-diabetes range, he is happy now that he needn't carry medicines where ever he goes to.

One of the guys I know takes shirodhara ayurvedic treatment from Patanjali for schizophrenia.... obviously I can't vouch for the usefulness in any particular condition...After reading this thread i Googled about it... there's mud therapy, ayurvedic diets etc. 

 

In particular, the bhasams are known to contain heavy metals.

[singhvivek141]

2 hours ago, randomGuy said:

One of the guys I know takes shirodhara ayurvedic treatment from Patanjali for schizophrenia.... obviously I can't vouch for the usefulness in any particular condition...After reading this thread i Googled about it... there's mud therapy, ayurvedic diets etc. 

 

In particular, the bhasams are known to contain heavy metals.

 

Bhasams, shilajit they all have heavy metals and minerals which helps improving the health.

 

However, a little heavier dose and your kidney may give up as well. So one needs to have utmost care while consuming those.

 

Kerala me, ayurvedic oil therapy is pretty common. Many have tried that and they find it pretty relaxing and refreshing. My neighbour uncle who is a retd Banker goes to Kerala every 6 months for a week just to get this oil therapy and this helps a lot in his arthritis.

[Lone Wolf]

On 12/24/2025 at 10:47 AM, Gollum said:

This lady is an AYUSH doctor, so not really a doctor, just a fraud. 

 

This entire AYUSH and Patanjali/Ramdev alternative medicine is slow deadly poison which finds patronage under this anti-science government and support from whatsapp uncles. This crime on Indian people deserves another thread @Lone Wolf @Lord @New guy, so many issues to target the govt like this ooga booga medicine or FSSAI gandmasti, all of which will combine to play havoc on Indian public health, but opposition finds the most pointless topics which don't resonate with or affect the aam aadmi. 

P@tanjali is blatantly into adulteration.. people buying those products are certified ret@rds at this point.

They deserve Gulag treatment in all fairness but FSS@I takes the cake when it comes to sheer ineptness.

 

Adulteration is at its peak in India.  Nothing is safe to eat anymore.

 

[Gollum]

2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

P@tanjali is blatantly into adulteration.. people buying those products are certified ret@rds at this point.

They deserve Gulag treatment in all fairness but FSS@I takes the cake when it comes to sheer ineptness.

 

Adulteration is at its peak in India.  Nothing is safe to eat anymore.

 

Food not safe to eat

Water not safe to drink

Air not safe to breathe

 

But we are in amrit kaal !!!!!

[coffee_rules]

There are dumb people everywhere who blindly take alternative medicine without proper advice. Even people dying of taking Ayurvedic meds only has anecdotal evidence, it is not like all people taking Ayurvedic medicine are dying left and right to make a generalized statement.

 

That is proper research for sam Ayurvedic medicines that gets published in scientific journals even western methods sometimes suggest holistic healing to supplement the healing process from surgeries. Meditation, mindful meditation,, vipassana R encouraged for a complete healing process. Should be the people believing in the medicine that depends on this reality.

 

India should regulate any alternate medicine sold in the market with proper research hopefully Ayurveda is regulated and researched in the scientific way by the mini

[Lord]

13 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

In a way, yes. He till date acknowledges that in Patanjali, his habits were pushed away and change was forced. He started consuming bottle gourd and bitter gourd which he never touched in his whole life, but there he had no choice coz thats the food he was given, plus daily yoga.

 

But IMO thats what Ayurveda is...improving your life in totality instead of just focusing on one issue. 

 

Even in case of neurodiverse kids, Ayurvedic therapies have had much larger impact than allopathy like STEM Cell surgeries. 

 

Why would it need Ayurveda to change lifestyle though? Aware people would do it regardless. Such practices are encouraged my normal doctors too

[coffee_rules]

7 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Why would it need Ayurveda to change lifestyle though? Aware people would do it regardless. Such practices are encouraged my normal doctors too

So what if Ayurveda induces such good lifestyle changes?? just because it is Ayurveda people have to badmouth it based on some stupid people taking bad medicine and dying. We do short sell Indian knowledge system to olplay the big Pharma narrative.

Edited December 26, 2025 by coffee_rules

[Lord]

57 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

So what if Ayurveda induces such good lifestyle changes?? just because it is Ayurveda people have to badmouth it based on some stupid people taking bad medicine and dying. We do short sell Indian knowledge system to olplay the big Pharma narrative.

But what is Ayurveda’s contribution in changing lifestyle. That one can do regardless. Its like crediting allopathy for working out and eating healthy.

[coffee_rules]

10 hours ago, Lord said:

But what is Ayurveda’s contribution in changing lifestyle. That one can do regardless. Its like crediting allopathy for working out and eating healthy.

The knowledge of different types of foods to eat for your profession/lifestyle is recorded in Indian medicine (Ayurveda) by rishi Patanjali for more than 2000 years. Satvic, Tamasic, Rajasic is not just food categories, but lifestyle that suits your metabolism. These ideas came to mankind from Ayurveda