kepler37b Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 31 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said: It depends on OUR policy and posturing too. It is not a one way street. Relations were cold when we were a socialist country. We opted to be close to USSR/Russia, and bought all our arms from them and Pak from US. Relations went through a massive upgrade from the time of George W Bush and Manmohan Singh -- due to policy change -because US decided that China was not doing what they hoped from them and India also realized that it has huge tech dependencies on US if it has to grow. So no policy is permament. Now US is offering their arms and we are reluctant and Pak doesn't have the same level of access to US arms like it used to and has switched camps to China. Israel was not always super pally with US. Netanyahu has been lobbying US congress for 3 decades to implement a " middle east plan ". That combined with Jewish control of Wall Street and media and political donors has hugely impacted American foreign policy. Indian diaspora has not exerted similar level of influence ( despite dominating Tech ) or done that kind of lobbying because our people are selfish. Once that changes - you will see the policy become alot more favorable. Mark my words: as the proportion of blue menace increases, i expect the NRI population to turn hostile to state of India. The NRI GC's of north will join too.
Lone Wolf Posted April 15 Posted April 15 8 minutes ago, kepler37b said: Mark my words: as the proportion of blue menace increases, i expect the NRI population to turn hostile to state of India. The NRI GC's of north will join too. Haven't given a thought about it but let the US style affirmative action kick in future and we shall see
rangeelaraja Posted April 15 Posted April 15 22 minutes ago, MechEng said: That tweet from Modi is an end to his strongman image. All the facade built by his sigma silence to Trump's tarrif threats has come crashing down. Next time there is a terror threat on India, our deterrence options are gone courtesy potential trade repercussions. What has Xi Jinping and China been able to do ? Despite being a 4.5 times larger economy than India and having much more global clout - they have just being mute spectators and watched as their 2 prime energy sourced are being snatched away and controlled - Venezuela and now Iran. Politics is not all strongman ship - it is a game of chess. BJP could have acted all macho with economic pain for the common man in India and would have their govt toppled and replaced by a khichdi coalition that screws up the economy - back to the wretched era of 2009-2014. It would have been a brainless thing to do. so they are biding their time till we have enough leverage and cards - we don’t now.
MechEng Posted April 15 Posted April 15 45 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said: What has Xi Jinping and China been able to do ? Shared exact coordinates to destroy US radars in GCC military bases, 2 C-130 aircrafts and the downing of F35. China has inflicted enough thrashing without being involved in the war directly, they are playing smart. Besides, China imports bulk of oil from Russia, they are not naive enough to reveal all their cards and take on US with josh jazba junoon
randomGuy Posted April 15 Posted April 15 43 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said: What has Xi Jinping and China been able to do ? Despite being a 4.5 times larger economy than India and having much more global clout - they have just being mute spectators and watched as their 2 prime energy sourced are being snatched away and controlled - Venezuela and now Iran. Politics is not all strongman ship - it is a game of chess. BJP could have acted all macho with economic pain for the common man in India and would have their govt toppled and replaced by a khichdi coalition that screws up the economy - back to the wretched era of 2009-2014. It would have been a brainless thing to do. so they are biding their time till we have enough leverage and cards - we don’t now. The main issue is that the US buys goods and services from us and Russia and China simply don't. So, india and usa are complimentary economies. On the other hand, usa doesn't treat us as equal with fomenting trouble in neighbourhood esp. B'desh, supporting and arming pakistan, terrorists in Manipur etc. Basically, Indians only will need to show patriotism, become self sufficient as much as possible, not spend on foreign tours etc. Tillu 1
rangeelaraja Posted April 15 Posted April 15 17 minutes ago, MechEng said: Shared exact coordinates to destroy US radars in GCC military bases, 2 C-130 aircrafts and the downing of F35. China has inflicted enough thrashing without being involved in the war directly, they are playing smart. There is enough news that Russia shared the coordinates. I know you are left leaning, but atleast get your facts a little right. Left leaning doesn't mean you have to lie constantly. https://www.timesofisrael.com/russia-reportedly-supplying-iran-with-spy-imagery-of-us-and-israeli-targets/ https://www.nbcnews.com/world/ukraine/russia-us-base-american-troops-zelenskyy-rcna265612 China doesn't even have the balls to make a move on puny Taiwan that is smaller than Lanka and right besides them and they will thrash a superpower without being involved in a war. LOL. Whata logic. 19 minutes ago, MechEng said: Besides, China imports bulk of oil from Russia, they are not naive enough to reveal all their cards and take on US with josh jazba junoon No major country relies on one source of energy - they always diversify. 8-10 % of Chinese energy imports came from Venezuela and Iran each -- totaling around 20 %. You say China will not reveal their cards and act with Jazba junoon but expect the Indian govt to....what a hypocritical logic. mishra 1
Lone Wolf Posted April 15 Posted April 15 (edited) Munni lands in Iran now acting like a full time Trump's errand boy Edited April 15 by Lone Wolf
mishra Posted April 15 Posted April 15 (edited) Will US now shoot down spy satellite which China claims to have sold to Iran? Would be fun Edited April 15 by mishra
kepler37b Posted April 16 Author Posted April 16 These islamists are vile barbaric creatures. I draw a great civilized pleasure when uncle sam and the yahood bombs their pichwaadaa's
kepler37b Posted April 16 Author Posted April 16 8 hours ago, IndianRenegade said: Lol East asians are NOT very religious. They consider mullah's and IRGC as medieval fools and are happy to squeeze them dry.
Lone Wolf Posted April 16 Posted April 16 (edited) Peak errand boy behaviour, though he is doing the donkey's, work and will likely get rewarded handsomely Edited April 16 by Lone Wolf
bsriharsha Posted April 16 Posted April 16 3 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Peak errand boy behaviour, though he is doing the donkey's, work and will likely get rewarded handsomely Us sent the lapdog to Iran to threaten them that Pakistan will start hitting them on the baloch front
G_B_ Posted April 16 Posted April 16 51 minutes ago, bsriharsha said: Us sent the lapdog to Iran to threaten them that Pakistan will start hitting them on the baloch front I dont think the irgc care. They can ask china to squeeze pak. Pak military cant move an inch without china. India benefits if pak attacks iran.
Lone Wolf Posted April 16 Posted April 16 1 hour ago, bsriharsha said: Us sent the lapdog to Iran to threaten them that Pakistan will start hitting them on the baloch front Nope Pakistani know its suicidal.. they likely want resolution as quickly as possible without drawing them in.. They are playing both sides and its high risk high reward type play atp
Lone Wolf Posted April 16 Posted April 16 Don't know how much Trump is acting all phenku but if true that's most likely end of the conflict as we know it mishra 1
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