Alam_dar Posted March 15 Posted March 15 I cannot stomach the 'double standards' of Islam. On one hand, a free Muslim woman is not only confined to the Hijab in the name of 'modesty and shame,' but she is further restricted to the four walls of her home. She is deprived of the simple act of stepping outside for fresh air without an absolute necessity or the presence of a Mahram (male guardian). Yet, on the other hand, in a total disregard for this very concept of 'modesty,' Islam prohibits slave women from wearing the Hijab. Furthermore, it defines their Awrah (intimate parts) as only being from the navel to the knees, effectively forcing them to appear in public with exposed chests. This is a reality that religious scholars do not disclose to the Muslim public today that how thousands of slave women existed with exposed chests in the presence of Muhammad, and how they were made to stand in auction markets in the same semi-naked state (link). So, where is the shame? Where is the modesty? The irony is that the Islam placed clothing on women and removed it at its own whim. And yet, today, women of that same Ummah claim that 'the Hijab is a choice. Islam’s 'double standards' of modesty and shame expose this religion so thoroughly that it cannot escape its own collapse... just let humanity become aware of Islam's true face. sorak, singhvivek141, G_B_ and 1 other 2 2
Alam_dar Posted March 15 Author Posted March 15 The biggest issue is, Muslim influencers are PROUDLY posting this video on social media and romanticizing it, and even claiming that Islam is a religion of Feminism. And this lie is even successfully working and indoctrinating millions of other poor young Muslim girls, who cannot examine things critically. Lone Wolf 1
G_B_ Posted March 15 Posted March 15 2 hours ago, Alam_dar said: The biggest issue is, Muslim influencers are PROUDLY posting this video on social media and romanticizing it, and even claiming that Islam is a religion of Feminism. And this lie is even successfully working and indoctrinating millions of other poor young Muslim girls, who cannot examine things critically. Agree.
New guy Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Religion itself is a millstone around humanity, holding is back every single day, in every aspect of our life. Stan AF and Alam_dar 1 1
randomGuy Posted March 16 Posted March 16 7 hours ago, New guy said: Religion itself is a millstone around humanity, holding is back every single day, in every aspect of our life. Religion is a great thing. Jitna humans evolve honge utna Hinduism and Hinduism influenced ya similar ideologies ko adhere karenge. Devotion is the most important thing in life. Alongwith that, naap jap, kirtan, dhyan. Dhyan alone is beneficial, but insufficient for most. Alongwith dhyan, a bit of bhakti(devotion) will make your path complete.
zen Posted March 16 Posted March 16 Rather than blaming religion, need to understand the difference between a priest’s (Brahmin, Mullah, etc) version of religion and God’s true religion.
kepler37b Posted March 17 Posted March 17 On 3/15/2026 at 3:31 PM, Alam_dar said: I cannot stomach the 'double standards' of Islam. On one hand, a free Muslim woman is not only confined to the Hijab in the name of 'modesty and shame,' but she is further restricted to the four walls of her home. She is deprived of the simple act of stepping outside for fresh air without an absolute necessity or the presence of a Mahram (male guardian). Yet, on the other hand, in a total disregard for this very concept of 'modesty,' Islam prohibits slave women from wearing the Hijab. Furthermore, it defines their Awrah (intimate parts) as only being from the navel to the knees, effectively forcing them to appear in public with exposed chests. This is a reality that religious scholars do not disclose to the Muslim public today that how thousands of slave women existed with exposed chests in the presence of Muhammad, and how they were made to stand in auction markets in the same semi-naked state (link). So, where is the shame? Where is the modesty? The irony is that the Islam placed clothing on women and removed it at its own whim. And yet, today, women of that same Ummah claim that 'the Hijab is a choice. Islam’s 'double standards' of modesty and shame expose this religion so thoroughly that it cannot escape its own collapse... just let humanity become aware of Islam's true face. I find Ahmadiya faith to be an Indianized version of islam. Lot more tolerant and lot less violent. Why don't indian muslims consider it?
Alam_dar Posted March 17 Author Posted March 17 (edited) 6 hours ago, kepler37b said: I find Ahmadiya faith to be an Indianized version of islam. Lot more tolerant and lot less violent. Why don't indian muslims consider it? Unfortunately, it is not a complete truth, according to my honest opinion. Yes, apparently it seems that Ahmadiya (or even Shia Muslims) are tolerant (and there is some truth to it too). However, when we go deep in the teachings of their religious figures, and also in their system, then it also have that same element of Islamic radicalism (although reduced a bit through modern interpretation). Some Ahmadiya Religious Figures also wrote if they get their own state and power, then they will also impose Sharia rules and laws, although some of them (especially those in the UK claims otherwise). But I am sure they will show different colours when they once come into power, while if you really believe in Sharia, then despite modern interpretations, you will land in the radicalized zone. It seems to me that Sufi Muslims are the only ones who could be considered real tolerant ones. Although some of them also follow sharia, but they also bend Sharia rules a lot in name of "love". Otherwise, Ahmadiya and Shia Muslims are stricter followers of SHARIA. They will never let their daughter or son marry a Hindu person. This marriage issue is one of the litmus test to know if a Muslims is a truly tolerant one or not. And Ahmadiya Islam is not truely an Indianized version of Islam in my opinion. They try to show it like this, but in reality, they are heavily linked to Sharia as compared to any Indian tradition. Edited March 17 by Alam_dar
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