BacktoCricaddict Posted May 26 Posted May 26 2 seasons as captain. 2 finals appearances. Steady, calm presence on the field. Not easy to lead a team with a bunch of firebrands and superstars. Consistently good batsman, scores at a high rate once settled, and also shows up big with clutch performances when team is under the pump. Deserves more credit than he has been getting over the past 2 seasons. Texan, tapandrun, bowl_out and 2 others 1 4
Texan Posted May 26 Posted May 26 Must be in the Indian T20 team for sure. He was picked for the wrong format and hence, deserves a chance in the format he is best at. My 15 member squad for subsequent T20 India tournaments would even have him as the captain to replace SKY. It is a direct 1 to 1 replacement: middle order spot and captaincy. Manucrick 1
vvvslaxman Posted May 26 Posted May 26 I think Andy Flower has brought them together to play as a team rather than individuals. Just compare the individual with 2016 RCB KOhli 2016 >> Kohli 2026 Gayle >> Salt ABDV >>> Padikkal Watson > Patidar KL Rahul > Jitesh But bowling of 2026 is way superior with Josh and Bhuvi. And ofcourse impact sub alleivated this problem in a major way. bowl_out and BacktoCricaddict 2
vvvslaxman Posted May 26 Posted May 26 3 minutes ago, Texan said: Must be in the Indian T20 team for sure. He was picked for the wrong format and hence, deserves a chance in the format he is best at. My 15 member squad for subsequent T20 India tournaments would even have him as the captain to replace SKY. It is a direct 1 to 1 replacement: middle order spot and captaincy. SKy will be backed for world cup win. Managing an Indian side with Gambhir is different proposition than Managing an RCB side with Andy flower an darray of coaches like DK. There are no impact sub. Pressure is massive. You cannot afford to lose games in the name of taking risks. IT is not RCB fandom which will support them no matter what. Pressure level will be very very different. Having said that SKY doesn't even deserve to be part of the squad.
BacktoCricaddict Posted May 26 Author Posted May 26 10 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: I think Andy Flower has brought them together to play as a team rather than individuals. Masterclass in ego management.
Texan Posted May 26 Posted May 26 10 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: SKy will be backed for world cup win. Managing an Indian side with Gambhir is different proposition than Managing an RCB side with Andy flower an darray of coaches like DK. There are no impact sub. Pressure is massive. You cannot afford to lose games in the name of taking risks. IT is not RCB fandom which will support them no matter what. Pressure level will be very very different. Having said that SKY doesn't even deserve to be part of the squad. We got rid of Rohit right after World T20 win in 2024, why can't we do it now? Every time a World T20 concludes, it is time to reevaluate and determine whether the same cast of characters can lead to the next win in two years from now and SKY is clearly not the answer. The turnaround time for successive World T20s is much shorter than a World Cup and hence, you cannot afford to have some "consolation series" to allow the winning captain to get some more time with the team.
vvvslaxman Posted May 26 Posted May 26 4 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Masterclass in ego management. yes. this is the kind of set up KKR, CSK used to have. Lot of small compnents working in unison. The legacy teams have lost that edge, RCB has brought that into their set up. I think some kind of leadership has to be there. Either coach or captain have to bring the team together. When that is missing , we get what we see with MI
bowl_out Posted May 26 Posted May 26 16 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: I think Andy Flower has brought them together to play as a team rather than individuals. Just compare the individual with 2016 RCB KOhli 2016 >> Kohli 2026 Gayle >> Salt ABDV >>> Padikkal Watson > Patidar KL Rahul > Jitesh But bowling of 2026 is way superior with Josh and Bhuvi. And ofcourse impact sub alleivated this problem in a major way. 6 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Masterclass in ego management. Why hasn't he been considered for India coaching?
vvvslaxman Posted May 26 Posted May 26 1 minute ago, Texan said: We got rid of Rohit right after World T20 win in 2024, why can't we do it now? Every time a World T20 concludes, it is time to reevaluate and determine whether the same cast of characters can lead to the next win in two years from now and SKY is clearly not the answer. The turnaround time for successive World T20s is much shorter than a World Cup and hence, you cannot afford to have some "consolation series" to allow the winning captain to get some more time with the team. ONly viable option is Samson at this point. Iyer doesn't seem to be bowlers captain. . Manucrick 1
vvvslaxman Posted May 26 Posted May 26 Just now, bowl_out said: Why hasn't he been considered for India coaching? Not sure if he even applied
Texan Posted May 26 Posted May 26 6 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Not sure if he even applied Andy Flower is a very good coach, but what would make him successful would be to give him complete authority over strategy and team selection. In India, generally, the captain wants to have more authority and that could end up creating friction with the coach (imagine Chappell vs Ganguly). I am in favor of giving coach more authority and have more accountability from him. Captain should only be the executor of plans on the field. bowl_out 1
Texan Posted May 26 Posted May 26 10 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: ONly viable option is Samson at this point. Iyer doesn't seem to be bowlers captain. . Samson isn't captain of his current IPL team and hasn't been very successful in IPL captaincy.
bowl_out Posted May 26 Posted May 26 2 minutes ago, Texan said: Andy Flower is a very good coach, but what would make him successful would be to give him complete authority over strategy and team selection. In India, generally, the captain wants to have more authority and that could end up creating friction with the coach (imagine Chappell vs Ganguly). I am in favor of giving coach more authority and have more accountability from him. Captain should only be the executor of plans on the field. Good point, but it could work with a captain like Gill or Samson or even Iyer. Kohli was super aggressive and needed a subtle coach and Shastri as a cheerleader worked well there.
bowl_out Posted May 26 Posted May 26 17 minutes ago, Texan said: We got rid of Rohit right after World T20 win in 2024, why can't we do it now? Every time a World T20 concludes, it is time to reevaluate and determine whether the same cast of characters can lead to the next win in two years from now and SKY is clearly not the answer. The turnaround time for successive World T20s is much shorter than a World Cup and hence, you cannot afford to have some "consolation series" to allow the winning captain to get some more time with the team. That worked because Rohit himself retired from T20I. Ideally SKY should call it a day in international cricket Manucrick 1
vvvslaxman Posted May 26 Posted May 26 (edited) I know we troll Rayudu. But his explanation about Rajat patidar's improvement with bat is a good listen on an aisde Rayudu says this "If you go to street fight and you go with TIm David, Virat... " lol Edited May 26 by vvvslaxman
vvvslaxman Posted May 26 Posted May 26 Cheeka says "If i were selectors i would pick Patidar in LOI setup and Krunal into T20I set up". Is there any chance these guys can come in? RP, Mithun were there. Even Bhuvi might get a shot.
tapandrun Posted May 27 Posted May 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: Cheeka says "If i were selectors i would pick Patidar in LOI setup and Krunal into T20I set up". Is there any chance these guys can come in? RP, Mithun were there. Even Bhuvi might get a shot. Such a surface level analysis from another expert, Next odi wc is in SA and next t20i wc is in NZ+Aus. Why would you pick kurnal for a wc in Aus over Axar?? His fast bat swing caters to only leg-side shot making wont be much useful in Aus and NZ conditions where ball rises from the length, and his bowling will not be much useful in Aus, top intnl batters will figure it out how to play/hit him as they did to varun Patidar in whose place again the wc is in SA can not have multiple players with some issue with sort-ball , he could have been a great pick fr this t20i wc but not the upcoming Odi wc. What Ind needs is a LH batter in the mo, who can bowl a bit and fast bowling allrounder Edited May 27 by tapandrun
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