vvvslaxman Posted May 29 Posted May 29 Now that rule has changed that after 34 overs one ball can be used. It allows us to make a come back in the last 16 overs. They deliberately scuff up one ball badly and use that for the last 16 overs. So do we have resources in shorter formats? Does Harshit reverse?
vvvslaxman Posted May 30 Author Posted May 30 49 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: Best is Shami but his international career seems to be over. Shami happened to bowl during the least pace bowler friendly era yet goated in 3 world cups. He started after two new ball era. Finished before 34th over law. What a travesty.
Lone Wolf Posted May 30 Posted May 30 We have trashy low bounce green seamers in domestic cricket which doesn't encourage high pace , or reverse swing at all. They are made for military medium Trundlers. So no none of the upcoming Pacers have reverse swing skill in them. Might have to poach Eshan Malinga if we want one express bowling 1
Suhaan Posted May 30 Posted May 30 7 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: We have trashy low bounce green seamers in domestic cricket which doesn't encourage high pace , or reverse swing at all. They are made for military medium Trundlers. So no none of the upcoming Pacers have reverse swing skill in them. Might have to poach Eshan Malinga if we want one Umran for that very role,I was so desperate to see him play but he got totally sidelined thanks to injuries and step motherly treatment to bowlers like him express bowling and Mosher 2
singhvivek141 Posted May 30 Posted May 30 (edited) No one. Shami is old, Umesh has retired...Bumrah can but he cant play every game now. Siraj is more of a new ball bowler, Prasidh is more known for his hit the deck abilities and bounce. Harshit can but he doesnt have fitness and he is injured, no one knows when he will be back. Keep on playing 5.6 ft tall 120kph trundlers and you will get nothing. Edited May 30 by singhvivek141
vvvslaxman Posted May 30 Author Posted May 30 30 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: No one. Shami is old, Umesh has retired...Bumrah can but he cant play every game now. Siraj is more of a new ball bowler, Prasidh is more known for his hit the deck abilities and bounce. Harshit can but he doesnt have fitness and he is injured, no one knows when he will be back. Keep on playing 5.6 ft tall 120kph trundlers and you will get nothing. Wish Shami gets roped into some kind of mentor role once he retires or Umesh or Varun. INdia needs fresh bowling coaches to help our seamers upskill themselves.
tapandrun Posted May 31 Posted May 31 (edited) reverse swing is effective only at high pace , 1st figure out who are fast swing bowlers. Still have to see how its been used in Odis with new rules Yes it does reverse but at later end of the innings. At 34th over which ever ball they pick is just 17 overs old and then add 7-8 overs fr the ball to be conditioned for reverse and if the game is being played on good outfields reverse will not come into picture till 44-45th over. Odi wc is in SA good grassy outfields, even sitting area for fans is grassy banks so ball we not dent/scuff-up as much That too when bowling 1st and in 2nd it will be dew so no help there. More then reverse its about ball being much softer had softer ball may not go for 4/6 that easily. Going by Ipl prince yadav looks like he can be the 3rd Pacer for Odi wc if he can bowl high 137-145kmph in odis. Had good control over line and length, swing the ball. Can nail yorkers <-- has the extension of wrist when bowling yorkers Edited May 31 by tapandrun
vvvslaxman Posted June 3 Author Posted June 3 Watching the match between WI and SL. After 41st over with the single ball Chameera is reversing at high pace. WI lower order has no answer.
Nikhil_cric Posted June 4 Posted June 4 On 5/30/2026 at 1:33 AM, vvvslaxman said: Now that rule has changed that after 34 overs one ball can be used. It allows us to make a come back in the last 16 overs. They deliberately scuff up one ball badly and use that for the last 16 overs. So do we have resources in shorter formats? Does Harshit reverse? There hasn't been that much reverse despite this rule
express bowling Posted June 4 Posted June 4 Ashok Sharma is skiddy. And attacks the stumps at pace. Should be developed as a reverse swing bowler. Even Onkar Tarmale can be developed. The other skiddy option is Prince Yadav. But he is not as quick as the above 2. Umran Malik and Kuldeep Sen could attack the stumps at pace too. But both seem to be lost Mosher and Suhaan 2
vvvslaxman Posted June 4 Author Posted June 4 34 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: There hasn't been that much reverse despite this rule Chameera was reversing a lot by 40th over
Nikhil_cric Posted June 4 Posted June 4 2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Chameera was reversing a lot by 40th over Yeah but that's only yesterday. I don't think it's going to reverse much in SA. Softer ball will be harder to hit though
vvvslaxman Posted June 4 Author Posted June 4 2 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: Yeah but that's only yesterday. I don't think it's going to reverse much in SA. Softer ball will be harder to hit though NOt specific to world cup. IN general when there is reverse swing on offer it is a potential phase a team can come back through reverse swing especially on surfaces with a lot of aberration.
Nikhil_cric Posted June 4 Posted June 4 2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: NOt specific to world cup. IN general when there is reverse swing on offer it is a potential phase a team can come back through reverse swing especially on surfaces with a lot of aberration. Preparation has to be specific to World Cup conditions. No point picking players without keeping that in mind
vvvslaxman Posted June 4 Author Posted June 4 1 minute ago, Nikhil_cric said: Preparation has to be specific to World Cup conditions. No point picking players without keeping that in mind SA does offer reverse swing
Nikhil_cric Posted June 4 Posted June 4 (edited) 2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: SA does offer reverse swing That is in Test cricket. I have not seen reverse in ODI cricket in recent times or even 2003 World Cup when you only had 1 ball for 50 overs and fewer cameras Edited June 4 by Nikhil_cric
vvvslaxman Posted June 4 Author Posted June 4 Just now, Nikhil_cric said: That is in Test cricket. I have not seen reverse in ODI cricket on recent times or even 2003 World Cup when you only had 1 ball for 50 overs and fewer cameras I am sure Zaheer did reverse. Wanderers, Centurion notorious for abrasive surfaces and rough outifleds. Ball does give you rrevers option. Infact many teams talk about it for world cup as a weapon between 35th and 45th over. Reverse is there in every country. You just have to make sure ball gets scuffed up enough on one side. It is highly likely when you use a single ball for any length of period from both side.s
Nikhil_cric Posted June 4 Posted June 4 2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: I am sure Zaheer did reverse. Wanderers, Centurion notorious for abrasive surfaces and rough outifleds. Ball does give you rrevers option. Infact many teams talk about it for world cup as a weapon between 35th and 45th over. Reverse is there in every country. You just have to make sure ball gets scuffed up enough on one side. It is highly likely when you use a single ball for any length of period from both side.s Even if that's the case there's no point picking reverse swing specialists. You pick your best bowlers and whatever tail they get is good enough
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