FischerTal Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 Harris and Steyn dispel the myth that only tall bowlers are successful.....
Bradman99 Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 Single handedly keeping Australia in with a chance.
CG Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 One of the few bowlers who uses his wrist so well.The last minute whip he gives with his wrist gives him the zip off the pitch.Its so sad ishant who used to get the same zip has lost it .I watch kapil dev and how he used his wrist ,Indian bowlers would do good to follow them.
adi B Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 harris is the best bowler in this ashes,consistently picking top batsmen`s wkt in every test match
kumar713 Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 One of the few bowlers who uses his wrist so well.The last minute whip he gives with his wrist gives him the zip off the pitch.Its so sad ishant who used to get the same zip has lost it .I watch kapil dev and how he used his wrist ' date='Indian bowlers would do good to follow them.[/quote'] QFT
adi B Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 Aussies Mohd Asif will end up like Mohd asif only playing 20-25 test,s 15 test 63 wickets 3 five wicket haul Mohd Asif 22 test 108 wickets 8 Five wicket haul rhino has picked 68 wkts in 15 matches @ 21 with a sub 45 S/R fixer picked 106 wkts in 23 matches @ 24.7 S/R 49 7 fife for though the fixer has a good record,rhino`s much better than him
Fontaine Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 One of the few bowlers who uses his wrist so well.The last minute whip he gives with his wrist gives him the zip off the pitch.Its so sad ishant who used to get the same zip has lost it .I watch kapil dev and how he used his wrist ' date='Indian bowlers would do good to follow them.[/quote'] Ishant hasn't lost that zip. He still generates that hurry up when the pitches have any life in them.
Lord Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 Harris and Steyn dispel the myth that only tall bowlers are successful..... Malcolm Marshall did that long ago
rkt.india Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 Ishant hasn't lost that zip. He still generates that hurry up when the pitches have any life in them. Ishant does not keep his wrist behind the ball now. In an attempt to get that outswing, he has started to slide the ball from its side.
putrevus Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 Ishant for bowler who brings ball into right handers and away from left handers bowls so close to stumps that's he is always either on pads of lefties or it is short and wide. If he can go wide of crease he can create so much better angle for both RHB and LHB, I am not sure why no one has advised him of that issue.
rkt.india Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 Ishant for bowler who brings ball into right handers and away from left handers bowls so close to stumps that's he is always either on pads of lefties or it is short and wide. If he can go wide of crease he can create so much better angle for both RHB and LHB, I am not sure why no one has advised him of that issue. He used to be wide of the crease if you remember him when he first came but then different coaches different advises too much tinkering with bowling approach too soon lead to mess of everything. Akram advised him to go close to the stumps, some advsied him to get outswinger and in an effort get outswinger he went close to the stumps, changed his bowling style and lost his inswing he used to get because now his bowling comes around his right shoulder and he also loses pace because his left hand does not go high enough and falls too early as his head falls to left side.
putrevus Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 He used to be wide of the crease if you remember him when he first came but then different coaches different advises too much tinkering with bowling approach too soon lead to mess of everything. Akram advised him to go close to the stumps' date=' some advsied him to get outswinger and in an effort get outswinger he went close to the stumps, changed his bowling style and lost his inswing he used to get because now his bowling comes around his right shoulder and he also loses pace because his left hand does not go high enough and falls too early as his head falls to left side.[/quote'] He does not need outswinger, his natural variation of ball holding its line will do the job of outswinger for him but for that he has go wide of crease otherwise he will remain short wide bowler. For bowler who brings ball in he should have been great ODI bowler . I don't remember his early days to be honest,
rkt.india Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 He does not need outswinger, his natural variation of ball holding its line will do the job of outswinger for him but for that he has go wide of crease otherwise he will remain short wide bowler. For bowler who brings ball in he should have been great ODI bowler . I don't remember his early days to be honest, but who will tell that to him? all the wrong advices have messed him already. It all started to happen WT20 2009. I thought he worked it out in 2011 first IPL and then on WI tour, but not he still started experimenting.
Raghav_12 Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 So many threads on Ishant Sharma already, yet we need a Ryan Harris thread to discuss him :wall: Ryan Harris is a champ. Only if he had remained injury free, it may have been different story.
rkt.india Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 So many threads on Ishant Sharma already, yet we need a Ryan Harris thread to discuss him :wall: Ryan Harris is a champ. Only if he had remained injury free, it may have been different story. Harris would have been in same category as Steyn if he had stayed injury free.
Lord Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 yeah he'll go down same as Bond.short career but what a career
rkt.india Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 yeah he'll go down same as Bond.short career but what a career I would say Bond was one of its kind. He was as good in both forms of the game. He was a prime example of high pace with excellent control. If Barry Richards can be termed as a Great then Bond is one too.
b555 Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 people like bond, ryan are ones i feel bad the most for :((
b555 Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 I would say Bond was one of its kind. He was as good in both forms of the game. He was a prime example of high pace with excellent control. If Barry Richards can be termed as a Great then Bond is one too. ryan harris didnt get proper chances man, else he will also have been damn good in both f u c k injuries
rkt.india Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 ryan harris didnt get proper chances man, else he will also have been damn good in both f u c k injuries Yes. He was good in ODIs too but injuries have limited his appearances. He had a fantastic start to his ODIO career, look at his ODI stats, brilliant. Will consider both pretty much at par. I have seen more destructive spells from Bond. PS: Other than that Harris is a late bloomer. He was not much of a bowler for first few years of his FC career. He was a trundler whom wicket keeper used to keep up to the stumps. That is why his FC record is very ordinary for someone who bowls on Aussie pitches, but Joe Dawes helped him turn the corner and what a corner he turned. They worked really hard together and that turned Harris into a genuine quick bowler and a strike bowler.
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