jusarrived Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 Thats very debatable. Laxman is in the form of his life now but his past performances' date=' particularly overseas, are nothing to write home about. Hussey is in exactly the same position for Australia and he still averages very high. I would wager his average would remain the same no matter where he batted[/quote'] its an indian batting lineup , case here is slightly different . The easiest place to bat in the indian team is at No4 and then No3 . Tendulkar and Dravid have benefited a lot from this , thanks to the tag of being best two bats in the team . how often do you remember VVS coming in early at say 30/3 on a flat/easy pitch ? more like 300/3 when he walks in , right ? missed out on all the opportunities to score those big hundreds and double hundreds , which could have spiked his Career avg considerably . People have started noticing his knocks only now , cos hes been getting bigger scores in the past few years ...you think its a coincidence that his 'form of life' is the same period as Dravids worst years ? or just that hes coming into bat much earlier than he did all his career ? Hes similar to old Dravid or New Tendulkar , once set is difficult to get him out & there is no reason he wouldn't have averaged at least as much as these two . As for his performances being nothing to write about , just think about our 10 biggest wins (tests) in the last decade & let me know how many of them we would have won without Laxman ?
Sachin=GOD Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 its an indian batting lineup ' date=' case here is slightly different . [b']The easiest place to bat in the indian team is at No4 and then No3 . Tendulkar and Dravid have benefited a lot from this , thanks to the tag of being best two bats in the team . how often do you remember VVS coming in early at say 30/3 on a flat/easy pitch ? more like 300/3 when he walks in , right ? missed out on all the opportunities to score those big hundreds and double hundreds , which could have spiked his Career avg considerably . People have started noticing his knocks only now , cos hes been getting bigger scores in the past few years ...you think its a coincidence that his 'form of life' is the same period as Dravids worst years ? or just that hes coming into bat much earlier than he did all his career ? Hes similar to old Dravid or New Tendulkar , once set is difficult to get him out & there is no reason he wouldn't have averaged at least as much as these two . As for his performances being nothing to write about , just think about our 10 biggest wins (tests) in the last decade & let me know how many of them we would have won without Laxman ? I think its the batsmen who make any position look easy to bat on rather than positions making batsmen look good.
jusarrived Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 ^ This is what happens when people follow the sport for hero worshiping one person, rather than for the enjoyment and understanding of the game. There is no sense of perspective. Laxman has been the cornerstone of so many great Indian performances abroad - Sydney (3 times), Adelaide, Port of Spain, Brisbane, Johannesburg, Durban, Perth, Colombo, Napier. This is just overseas. his 100 balls 70 in Rawalpindi test was very crucial too . Changed the momentum completely in our favor , though people will remember only Dravids 270 in that match . Hes played a lot of such knocks , unfortunately only a few remember .
Sooda Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 ^That was a gem and was unlucky to be out due to a sightscreen problem IIRC, he got bowled by Akhtar. Looked so comfortable as if on a totally different pitch to other bats Balaji Pathan and Nehra were very good in that match. Outbowled Akhtar and co That match in Sydney you guys talk of where he made a century opening the batting vs McG Lee and Gillespie on the 99 tour. In what must be one of the worst Indian touring sides ever, in a match (and series) where we got absolutely d1cked on, that was one hell of a knock.
jusarrived Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 I think its the batsmen who make any position look easy to bat on rather than positions making batsmen look good. Did I say Tendulkar or Dravid wer not good ? They wer too good , thats exactly what was Laxmans disadvantage .
pensionplan Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 ^That was a gem and was unlucky to be out due to a sightscreen problem IIRC, he got bowled by Akhtar. Looked so comfortable as if on a totally different pitch to other bats Nice recollection. Spot on. That match in Sydney you guys talk of where he made a century opening the batting vs McG Lee and Gillespie on the 99 tour. In what must be one of the worst Indian touring sides ever, in a match (and series) where we got absolutely d1cked on, that was one hell of a knock.And that Sydney knock of 167 has changed VVS's career and made a believer out of him by his own admission and the ensuing domestic season in 00 season where he hit 10 centuries in 10 FC games and refused to open again in Tests is what changed his and India's fortunes starting with that famous 2001 Aussie series almost 10 years to date.
Lord Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Sachin on top with Kallis in ICC Test Rankings ICC Player Rankings Rank Name Country Rating 1 S.R. Tendulkar IND 883 1 J.H. Kallis SA 883 3 K.C. Sangakkara SL 882 4 I.J.L. Trott ENG 826 5 A.N. Cook ENG 803 6 V. Sehwag IND 790 7 D.P.M.D. Jayawardena SL 781 8 S. Chanderpaul WI 779 9 V.V.S. Laxman IND 774 10 T.T. Samaraweera SL 763 ---------------------------------------------------------------- back to his usual spot:yay:
Sachinism Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 LOL are we gonna have a thread everytime there is a change in the rankings? They're so close, it'll happen every game
CoverDrive Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Very apt given how these two showed their class
saneindian Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Sachin in his current form could easily have broekn the 900 ranking point barrier had he got even 1 100 vs NZ. Hopefully he will go past that during the WI test series (if it takes place) otherwise by the end of the English series, he could easily be at 940-950 ranking points. Sad to see that Sehwag has lost nearly 100 points in the last 2 months :((
hatja_tau Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 where's gambo? wasn't he number 1 a few months ago?
Bublu Bhuyan Posted January 7, 2011 Posted January 7, 2011 Sachin in his current form could easily have broekn the 900 ranking point barrier had he got even 1 100 vs NZ. Hopefully he will go past that during the WI test series (if it takes place) otherwise by the end of the English series, he could easily be at 940-950 ranking points. Sad to see that Sehwag has lost nearly 100 points in the last 2 months :(( What do you mean by 'if'?
Trichromatic Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 ICC Test Championship Batting Rankings No code has to be inserted here. ICC Test Championship Bowling Rankings No code has to be inserted here. Tendulkar is back in top 10. Now the rankings are heavily dominated by saffers. Philander has reached no 2 in very short span of time. :hatsoff:
Executioner Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Azhar Ali! he did very well in the recent series
Trichromatic Posted October 11, 2016 Posted October 11, 2016 Currently none of Indian batsmen in top 10 Â ID Rat. Name Nat. Career Best Rating 1 906 S.P.D. Smith 936 v England, 20/07/2015 2 878 J.E. Root 917 v Australia, 10/08/2015 3 870 K.S. Williamson 893 v Australia, 17/11/2015 4 847 H.M. Amla 907 v Pakistan, 17/10/2013 5 845 Younus Khan 880 v Sri Lanka, 25/02/2009 6 802 A.B. de Villiers 935 v Australia, 24/02/2014 6 802 A.C. Voges 824 v Sri Lanka, 07/08/2016 8 772 D.A. Warner 880 v India, 13/12/2014 9 770 A.N. Cook 874 v India, 09/12/2012 10 764 Misbah-ul-Haq 842 v New Zealand, 13/11/2014 11 761 A.M. Rahane 785 v West Indies, 13/08/2016 12 744 J.M. Bairstow 744 v Pakistan, 14/08/2016 13 739 Asad Shafiq 758 v England, 18/07/2016 14 731 A.D. Mathews 877 v New Zealand, 30/12/2014 15 708 C.A. Pujara 851 v South Africa, 30/12/2013 16 692 L.D. Chandimal 692 v Australia, 17/08/2016 16 692 R.L. Taylor 871 v West Indies, 23/12/2013 16 692 Azhar Ali 753 v Sri Lanka, 12/07/2012 19 678 Sarfraz Ahmed 715 v Sri Lanka, 21/06/2015 20 673 V. Kohli 784 v New Zealand, 18/02/2014 21 663 M.J. Vijay 747 v South Africa, 18/11/2015 22 648 B.K.G. Mendis 692 v Australia, 07/08/2016 Â Both Rahane and Kohli are expected to gain ranking points and improve their positions. Â ID Rat. Name Nat. Career Best Rating 1 878 D.W. Steyn 909 v West Indies, 21/12/2014 2 870 J.M. Anderson 884 v Sri Lanka, 31/05/2016 3 859 R. Ashwin 876 v West Indies, 25/07/2016 4 836 S.C.J. Broad 880 v South Africa, 18/01/2016 5 831 H.M.R.K.B. Herath 851 v Pakistan, 18/08/2014 6 809 R.A. Jadeja 809 v New Zealand, 03/10/2016 7 806 Yasir Shah 878 v England, 18/07/2016 8 792 M.A. Starc 792 v Sri Lanka, 17/08/2016 9 739 T.A. Boult 825 v England, 25/05/2015 10 738 N. Wagner 760 v South Africa, 31/08/2016 11 723 V.D. Philander 912 v India, 22/12/2013 12 715 J.R. Hazlewood 792 v West Indies, 14/12/2015 13 710 M. Morkel 776 v Australia, 13/11/2011 14 677 N.M. Lyon 696 v New Zealand, 16/02/2016 15 645 M.D.K.P. Perera 658 v Australia, 07/08/2016 16 643 T.G. Southee 799 v West Indies, 12/06/2014 17 614 Shakib Al Hasan 700 v Zimbabwe, 07/11/2014 18 609 C.R. Woakes 609 v Pakistan, 14/08/2016 19 602 P.M. Siddle 816 v England, 05/08/2013 20 583 K.T.G.D. Prasad 632 v West Indies, 26/10/2015 21 573 I. Sharma 671 v West Indies, 10/07/2011 21 573 J.L. Pattinson 591 v New Zealand, 24/02/2016 23 570 Mohammad Shami 570 v New Zealand, 03/10/2016 24 551 K.A.J. Roach 774 v South Africa, 21/12/2014 25 543 S.T. Finn 624 v New Zealand, 28/05/2013 26 501 B. Kumar 501 v New Zealand, 03/10/2016 Â Â Malcolm Merlyn 1
Trichromatic Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 Updated Rankings  Batting  ID Rat. Name Nat. Career Best Rating 1 906 S.P.D. Smith 936 v England, 20/07/2015 2 878 J.E. Root 917 v Australia, 10/08/2015 3 847 H.M. Amla 907 v Pakistan, 17/10/2013 4 845 Younus Khan 880 v Sri Lanka, 25/02/2009 5 841 K.S. Williamson 893 v Australia, 17/11/2015 6 825 A.M. Rahane 825 v New Zealand, 11/10/2016 7 802 A.B. de Villiers 935 v Australia, 24/02/2014 7 802 A.C. Voges 824 v Sri Lanka, 07/08/2016 9 772 D.A. Warner 880 v India, 13/12/2014 10 770 A.N. Cook 874 v India, 09/12/2012 11 764 Misbah-ul-Haq 842 v New Zealand, 13/11/2014 12 744 J.M. Bairstow 744 v Pakistan, 14/08/2016 13 739 Asad Shafiq 758 v England, 18/07/2016 14 731 C.A. Pujara 851 v South Africa, 30/12/2013 14 731 A.D. Mathews 877 v New Zealand, 30/12/2014 16 718 V. Kohli 784 v New Zealand, 18/02/2014 17 692 Azhar Ali 753 v Sri Lanka, 12/07/2012 17 692 L.D. Chandimal 692 v Australia, 17/08/2016 19 678 Sarfraz Ahmed 715 v Sri Lanka, 21/06/2015 20 675 R.L. Taylor 871 v West Indies, 23/12/2013 21 648 B.K.G. Mendis 692 v Australia, 07/08/2016 22 641 Mominul Haque 661 v Pakistan, 10/05/2015 23 636 M.J. Vijay 747 v South Africa, 18/11/2015 24 627 F. du Plessis 710 v West Indies, 30/12/2014 25 626 Tamim Iqbal 707 v England, 08/06/2010 26 625 Shakib Al Hasan 629 v Pakistan, 10/05/2015 27 617 M.M. Ali 617 v Pakistan, 14/08/2016 28 604 D.M. Bravo 709 v Australia, 23/04/2012 29 593 D. Elgar 626 v England, 18/01/2016 30 588 Mohammad Hafeez 642 v England, 05/11/2015  Bowling ID Rat. Name Nat. Career Best Rating 1 900 R. Ashwin 900 v New Zealand, 11/10/2016 2 878 D.W. Steyn 909 v West Indies, 21/12/2014 3 870 J.M. Anderson 884 v Sri Lanka, 31/05/2016 4 836 S.C.J. Broad 880 v South Africa, 18/01/2016 5 831 H.M.R.K.B. Herath 851 v Pakistan, 18/08/2014 6 806 Yasir Shah 878 v England, 18/07/2016 7 805 R.A. Jadeja 809 v New Zealand, 03/10/2016 8 792 M.A. Starc 792 v Sri Lanka, 17/08/2016 9 731 N. Wagner 760 v South Africa, 31/08/2016 10 723 V.D. Philander 912 v India, 22/12/2013 11 715 J.R. Hazlewood 792 v West Indies, 14/12/2015 11 715 T.A. Boult 825 v England, 25/05/2015 13 710 M. Morkel 776 v Australia, 13/11/2011 14 677 N.M. Lyon 696 v New Zealand, 16/02/2016 15 645 M.D.K.P. Perera 658 v Australia, 07/08/2016 16 637 T.G. Southee 799 v West Indies, 12/06/2014 17 614 Shakib Al Hasan 700 v Zimbabwe, 07/11/2014 18 609 C.R. Woakes 609 v Pakistan, 14/08/2016 19 602 P.M. Siddle 816 v England, 05/08/2013 20 583 K.T.G.D. Prasad 632 v West Indies, 26/10/2015 21 573 J.L. Pattinson 591 v New Zealand, 24/02/2016 22 568 I. Sharma 671 v West Indies, 10/07/2011 23 551 K.A.J. Roach 774 v South Africa, 21/12/2014 24 547 Mohammad Shami 570 v New Zealand, 03/10/2016 25 543 S.T. Finn 624 v New Zealand, 28/05/2013 26 498 B.A. Stokes 508 v Pakistan, 25/07/2016 27 497 K. Rabada 497 v New Zealand, 31/08/2016 28 496 B. Kumar 501 v New Zealand, 03/10/2016 29 490 Wahab Riaz 490 v England, 14/08/2016 30 474 M.M. Ali 557 v South Africa, 30/12/2015 31 464 U. Yadav 509 v West Indies, 25/07/2016 32 458 Zulfiqar Babar 501 v New Zealand, 21/11/2014 33 449 N. Pradeep 458 v Australia, 30/07/2016 34 440 Rahat Ali 456 v England, 18/07/2016 35 406 A. Mishra 467 v South Africa, 29/11/2015    Other Indian batsmen 44 519 S Dhawan 593 v Sri Lanka, 16/08/2015 45 517 M.N. Samuels 672 v Zimbabwe, 16/03/2013 46 514 I.R. Bell 822 v India, 22/08/2011 47 509 Mahmudullah 509 v South Africa, 03/08/2015 47 509 J.A. Burns 575 v New Zealand, 24/02/2016 49 504 J.P. Duminy 586 v Sri Lanka, 20/07/2014 50 501 R. Ashwin 527 v England, 11/08/2014 51 492 F.D.M. Karunaratne 619 v West Indies, 18/10/2015 52 490 J. Blackwood 575 v England, 05/05/2015 53 482 T. Bavuma 482 v New Zealand, 31/08/2016 54 474 L. Ronchi 525 v India, 03/10/2016 55 455 Imrul Kayes 455 v South Africa, 03/08/2015 56 454 W.P. Saha 454 v New Zealand, 03/10/2016 57 437 S.C. Cook 443 v New Zealand, 23/08/2016 58 428 M.J. Guptill 597 v West Indies, 06/08/2012 59 421 Nasir Hossain 550 v New Zealand, 13/10/2013 60 418 T.A.M. Siriwardana 463 v New Zealand, 22/12/2015 61 415 M.D.K.J. Perera 431 v India, 01/09/2015 61 415 K.L. Rahul 423 v New Zealand, 26/09/2016  All rounders ID Rat. Name Nat. Career Best Rating 1 451 R. Ashwin 451 v New Zealand, 11/10/2016 2 384 Shakib Al Hasan 419 v Zimbabwe, 07/11/2014 3 292 R.A. Jadeja 292 v New Zealand, 11/10/2016 3 292 M.M. Ali 292 v Pakistan, 14/08/2016 5 279 M.A. Starc 279 v Sri Lanka, 17/08/2016 6 264 V.D. Philander 376 v Australia, 05/03/2014 7 259 B.A. Stokes 276 v South Africa, 26/01/2016 8 253 S.C.J. Broad 382 v Pakistan, 29/01/2012 9 223 H.M.R.K.B. Herath 223 v Australia, 17/08/2016 10 209 C.R. Woakes 209 v Pakistan, 14/08/2016   Ashwin has achieved his career best rating and reclaimed no 1 spot in both bowlers and all rounders list.  Rahane too has attained his career best rating. Forever Indian and Texan 2
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