ravishingravi Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 I have seen him mentioned here few times. I saw a bit of him in IPL. Still seemed a bit raw to me albeit with a decent action. But to be fair I have seen only a few deliveries. So, is he good enough at the highest level ?
Gunner_Mania Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 Xv_4_ovcqgQ&feature=player_embedded This is a video I made of him when he played on the India A tour in England. He was very good on that tour, but whether he is ready mentally to step on the international scene, I dont know.
jf1gp_1 Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 the only instance when i have seen his is during U19 WC game against pak; was very impressive but then it was U19 level
IKnowU Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 When I saw in OZ for the India A tour, when he has confidence, he can run through a side. My only problem I think will be he will spray it all over the place if he plays tomorrow.
putrevus Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 Left arm swing bowler should have ability to take the ball away from left hander and into right hander.Very few left handers have it and from the video it looks like he is still WIP.It will be very risky to play unless conditions are so heavily favored for swing bowling.
vamos_rafa Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 Left arm swing bowler should have ability to take the ball away from left hander and into right hander.Very few left handers have it and from the video it looks like he is still WIP.It will be very risky to play unless conditions are so heavily favored for swing bowling. I agree. After looking at the clips I felt that he needed to get a bit more side on to get the swing going. Though the angle of the camera was not the most conducive one to make such judgement but somehow could not find the side on action and the pivot to get the ball swinging.
vishalvirsingh Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 he is talented but still not ready for a test debut and is not too pacy but becos he is a left arm swinger n a 135 K bowler he can turn deadly as a left armer with swing and a pace of 140k is a very dangerous option( as Zaheer and ex nehra were).... we need to groom him
rkt.india Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 I agree. After looking at the clips I felt that he needed to get a bit more side on to get the swing going. Though the angle of the camera was not the most conducive one to make such judgement but somehow could not find the side on action and the pivot to get the ball swinging. You do not need to be very side on to swing the ball back in to right handed batsman as a LFM...its mainly about seam and wrist position while delivering the ball..Look at Zaheer, he is not side on, Nehra too is not side on, Wasim Akram was not very side on too, and Mitchell Johnson is side on and still does not swing it back.....
ravishingravi Posted December 15, 2010 Author Posted December 15, 2010 You do not need to be very side on to swing the ball back in to right handed batsman as a LFM...its mainly about seam and wrist position while delivering the ball..Look at Zaheer' date=' he is not side on, Nehra too is not side on, Wasim Akram was not very side on too, and Mitchell Johnson is side on and still does not swing it back.....[/quote'] That is very true. In fact by being too side on, Pathan lost his pace and also his swing. It is really in the wrists.
vamos_rafa Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 You do not need to be very side on to swing the ball back in to right handed batsman as a LFM...its mainly about seam and wrist position while delivering the ball..Look at Zaheer' date=' he is not side on, Nehra too is not side on, Wasim Akram was not very side on too, and Mitchell Johnson is side on and still does not swing it back.....[/quote'] Agreed that its mainly about wrist position. But on some occasions it also tends to depends on the way the left armer is pivoting. I think when Irfan made his debut he was really side on and hence got that natural in swinger. I think even RPS falls under this category. Zak is more of a seam bowler but yes occasionally he does swing the ball back. But then he's experienced enough to be able to master it. Wasim Akram, when he came onto the scene was very side on. Infact I remember he was the one who pointed this about Irfan when he was having a slump. MJ, you have rightly pointed out, has one of the worst wrist positions. I think wrist position does matter but sometimes the delivery stride also plays a pivotal role. That's what I feel.
diegovegaz Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 saw him in the u19 WC game bowls in right areas, good replacement for zak
rkt.india Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 Agreed that its mainly about wrist position. But on some occasions it also tends to depends on the way the left armer is pivoting. I think when Irfan made his debut he was really side on and hence got that natural in swinger. I think even RPS falls under this category. Zak is more of a seam bowler but yes occasionally he does swing the ball back. But then he's experienced enough to be able to master it. Wasim Akram, when he came onto the scene was very side on. Infact I remember he was the one who pointed this about Irfan when he was having a slump. MJ, you have rightly pointed out, has one of the worst wrist positions. I think wrist position does matter but sometimes the delivery stride also plays a pivotal role. That's what I feel. Another important thing is bowling a bit close to the stumps which helps in reducing the angle
achilles Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 He needs atleast 6 months before he's ready for international cricket. I hope the selectors don't ruin the young boy's career.
The Dark Horse Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 bowls in the 120s and occasionally hits 130s, from what i saw on youtube
achilles Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 bowls in the 120s and occasionally hits 130s' date=' from what i saw on youtube[/quote'] He's not fast, but he's really good with the variations. And the best part... he doesn't need a slower ball :winky:
The Dark Horse Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 Hehe we know the word for that, but lets hope for the best:two_thumbs_up:
achilles Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 Yep. Fingers crossed. Lets hope we see him playing regularly by next December.
hari504504 Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 He's not fast' date=' but he's really good with the variations. And the best part... he doesn't need a slower ball :winky:[/quote'] :haha:.. I err on the side of being cautious..one be reminded of another left arm seamer who was setting the stage alight in the U-19s..Pradeep Sangwan.
achilles Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 :haha:.. I err on the side of being cautious..one be reminded of another left arm seamer who was setting the stage alight in the U-19s..Pradeep Sangwan. I think Pradeep has become a T20 specialist.
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