Clarke Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/story/496134.html Surprised there isn't a thread on this; its a crucial hour in the history of the game. What can one expect ? I believe these cheats can escape with a minor sentence; its the ICC, remember!
kabira Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 Butt and Asif may get life bans or 5 year ban. Amir may get 1 year ban...
The Outsider Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 Butt and Asif - life bans Amir - 5 years.
coffee_rules Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 Aamir will escape with a ligher sentence. Bans for Asif Butt
vvvslaxman Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 They might all escape with lighter sentence.
Laaloo Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 Afridi was questioned, it is believed, among other things, about the World T20 where he was captain of a side that included the three players. Part of the supporting evidence is linked to the tournament, held in the Caribbean before Pakistan's tour of England. What does this mean? http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/current/story/495873.html
ShahidAfridi Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 Michael Holding who involved with ICC he said on the day that this story broke, evidence has been provided to the ICC before but nothing has been made out of Why should Pakistan players be made a "example" off. Warne got off because he was a Aussie. This court case is stupid, this is going down to the CAS. Why is it being held by a guy from the ICC. The same guy rejected their appeals.
ShahidAfridi Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 Afridi was questioned, it is believed, among other things, about the World T20 where he was captain of a side that included the three players. Part of the supporting evidence is linked to the tournament, held in the Caribbean before Pakistan's tour of England. What does this mean? http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/current/story/495873.html Afridi an Waqar backed up the three players, they know that Amir is crucial for the future of Pakistan.
ali0786 Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 What will probably happen: Butt - life ban Asif - 5 year ban Aamer - 2 year ban What should happen: All 3 should get a life ban (on basis of concrete evidence)
Zap_Brannigan Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Afridi an Waqar backed up the three players' date=' they know that Amir is crucial for the future of Pakistan.[/quote'] The same guy who said that he knew about the match fixing just days after the NOTW exposure. No one really believes a pak cricketer anymore.
Zap_Brannigan Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Michael Holding who involved with ICC he said on the day that this story broke, evidence has been provided to the ICC before but nothing has been made out of Why should Pakistan players be made a "example" off. Warne got off because he was a Aussie. This court case is stupid, this is going down to the CAS. Why is it being held by a guy from the ICC. The same guy rejected their appeals. He failed to mention what evidence it was, against who or when etc. It just seems like a stupid statement said in the heat of the moment with nothing to back him up. He might have even been talking like a paki when they keep repeating "IPL is fixed" when there is no evidence or even a hint. Care to tell me when a players manager was caught on video a day before the test saying some improbable things will happen and that actually happens? ICC is the governing body of Cricket. Who else is going to hold court? The international cycling union? Pakistan made an example off? Because they are match fixers. Do you even remember that a West indian got 2 years for just having contact with a known bookie. Warne happened 10 years ago , when the code for match fixing wasnt even there. Things have changed since then. Dont play the victim card, even though that is the national pastime.
fineleg Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 I dont expect ICC to do anything worthwhile. Mohd. Aamir must be banned for at least 5 years. But will they do that? They'll give him a slap on the wrist. ICC must get tough, but I doubt they will. The other two buffoons must be given life-time ban. Will they do that? Again relatively light punishment for them will be given, I think. I want ICC to be real tough with these idiots.
deep123 Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 I think they will escape with minor punishment. The thing is Asian block in the ICC definitely influences the decision
Laaloo Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 The pair, along with Mohammad Amir, have pleaded not guilty to charges of bowling deliberate no-balls in the fourth Test against England, allegedly at the behest of player-agent Mazhar Majeed. But on day five of the hearing, during which Asif presented his defence and was then cross-examined by ICC lawyers, the explanations of why a no-ball was bowled suggest that it was the result of a direct or indirect instruction from Butt. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/current/story/496254.html Looks like Asif has put the blame on Butt. Total Comedy
jf1gp_1 Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 despite the so called 'talent' these 3 have; pak as a team are doing far better with the exit of these 3, why the hell would even pak fans want these idiots back.
Zap_Brannigan Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 despite the so called 'talent' these 3 have; pak as a team are doing far better with the exit of these 3' date=' why the hell would even pak fans want these idiots back.[/quote'] Its probably just their way of life i guess. If it happened to India (and it did with Jadeja and Azhar with lesser evidence) we wouldn't want the players back in the side, but with pakis, its ok if you cheat as long as you win some games. Even if tomorrow, they hear the news that Afridi took money to lose the 2007 T20 WC, i doubt they would throw him out. They would probably still rationalize it somehow.
satyam1729 Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Spot Fixing controversy : ICC delays the verdict till February 5 http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/current/story/496306.html Tribunal defers verdict till February 5 Osman Samiuddin in Doha January 11, 2011 The tribunal hearing the spot-fixing case will pronounce its judgement on February 5, until which time the three Pakistani players - Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir - will remain provisionally suspended. In a new twist, however, the tribunal said it had also been investigating the Oval Test between Pakistan and England, and that Butt faced a charge in that context while the two others were acquitted. "The tribunal has been constituted to hear charges against Butt, Amir and Asif brought under the ICC's anti-corruption code in relation to two Tests played during August 2010 between Pakistan and England, the Oval Test and the Lord's Test," a statement from the tribunal said. The hearings, which began last Thursday, saw the three accused Pakistani players - defend themselves against the ICC's charge that they were involved in spot-fixing on Pakistan's tour of England last year. "The tribunal have throughout been very conscious of the importance of these proceedings to the three players and the wider world of cricket," said Michael Beloff, commissioner of the three-man independent hearing. "Representations have been made to it to reserve any decision on the charges still before it until it has had sufficient time to give the issues careful consideration and until it is able, at the same time as handing down its decision, to provide written reasons. "This would not be feasible in the timeframe agreed for this hearing in Doha. "The tribunal has therefore determined to continue its deliberations and hold a further hearing in Doha on the fifth of February of this year, at which its decisions will be handed down to the parties and any consequential matters will be dealt with. "Until that date, all three players will remain suspended from all cricketing activities." The tribunal, comprising Beloff, Justice Albie Sachs of South Africa and Sharad Rao of Kenya, was appointed in November to investigate the spot-fixing scandal, which broke in late August. In a News of the World sting, Mazhar Majeed, a player agent, claimed to have paid Amir and Asif to bowl no-balls to order with the collaboration of Butt. The players lodged appeals against their suspensions, though Asif eventually withdrew his, and they were heard in Dubai in October. Beloff, the ICC code of conduct commissioner who chaired the hearing, rejected their appeals, following which the Pakistan board revoked their central contracts. More to follow...
HowardRoark Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Damn...was looking forward to hear some good news today
jaggadaku Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 looks like they will probably get away with it
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