Prakat Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Going the timing of that statement, this is probably Dean Jones's show of support for Ponting.
cricketlover Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Ponting says to Lara, Tendulkar and his doubters, "Show me your medals!"
punjabi_khota Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Ponting says to Lara' date=' Tendulkar and his doubters, "Show me your medals!"[/quote'] Lara and Tendulkar are hardly the ones to look upto while talking about quality of captaincy.
cricketlover Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Lara and Tendulkar are hardly the ones to look upto while talking about quality of captaincy. well..... I was comparing Ponting to these 2! and my point was that one strength/advantage Ponting has over these 2 is that he ws a good captain aswell
Chalks Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 :punter: the second greatest Australian batsman ever, maybe, but second greatest Aussie cricketer ever? :WTF: SK Warne, my Lord!!! SK Warne!!! Oh, Lord, SK Warne!!!
King Tendulkar Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Ponting is indeed Aussies 2nd greatest batsman ever in tests. He is Aussies greates ever batsman in odis. He is Aussies greatest ever odi player. But certainly not aussies 2nd best test player ever. He is also potentially aussies worst captain ever
satyam1729 Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Along with being a great player, he was also an unbelievably good captain who won test series in every country he played in(eng as a player though not as captain) Never won a test series in India.
achilles Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Ponting is like Shoaib. We love to hate him, and cricket won't be the same without him. And our media chose to print only this part in the papers - "Deano criticizes Ricky's captaincy, asks him to quit". Read it today morning and I read something completely different here.
b555 Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Rediff :banghead: Bublu :banghead: Do you seriously not have anything better to do? :dontknow: :hysterical:
b555 Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Ponting is indeed Aussies 2nd greatest batsman ever in tests. He is Aussies greates ever batsman in odis. He is Aussies greatest ever odi player. But certainly not aussies 2nd best test player ever. He is also potentially aussies worst captain ever :two_thumbs_up:
kabira Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 IF he had said best ODI batsman ever for Australia. I would have had no problem The contributions of Warne and Mcgrath outweighs his contribution. We can see how they struggling without Hayden, Langer, Gilchrist..They have good replacements in batting. But bowling is what they will never replace Warne and Mcgrath. Those two were Mean Machines.
The Outsider Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Chappell, Border, and Waugh were all better test batsmen than Ponting, without even going into the players bit. Typical emotional eulogization on the back of an impending retirement.
rkt.india Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Chappell' date=' Border, and Waugh were all better test batsmen than Ponting, without even going into the players bit. Typical emotional eulogization on the back of an impending retirement.[/quote'] and Ponting is compared to SRT and is called as good SRT by many Ozzies....what a waste! I have not seen Chappel and Border, but I have seen Steve Waugh and to me he was certainly better than Ponting, may not be as naturally talented as Ponting, but his determination and grit made him better than what his overall talent was
putrevus Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 There is a case may be for Greg Chappell being better batsman than Ponting.He was a great batsman.He could play on any type of game and he played spin very well.Ponting had his share of problem against spinners in India which holds him back a little. But Steve Waugh and Allan Border never had the talent or ability of Ponting .They were very gritty players who became legendary because of the toughness they had shown.
Bublu Bhuyan Posted March 28, 2011 Author Posted March 28, 2011 Chappell' date=' [b']Border, and Waugh were all better test batsmen than Ponting, without even going into the players bit. Typical emotional eulogization on the back of an impending retirement. Talent wise Ponting eclipses both, in my opinion. Their achievements however might hold more value since they scored their runs in better eras. What do you think?
Raghav_12 Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Border and Chappell have definitely contributed more as batsmen to Austrlian cricket than Ponting ever did. Ponting as a batsman has been a five year phenomena - 2002-2006. In this time period he was scoring heavily. Take these five years out and Ponting's numbers are mediocre. And these five years were at the time, when Australian team could easily have done without Ponting's heavy scoring as they had so many stars in team. Border raised his level of game when Australia was going thru re-building phase (between 83-89 he scored at an average of 60) while Ponting dropped his game when team was going thru re-building phase ( between 2007 and today, Ponting averages 41). Chappell's contibution has also been great but his relative lack of success outside Australia puts some question marks. Still I would rate him higher than Ponting.
cricketlover Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 Never won a test series in India. didnt they beat india in 2005-6 or sth. Micahel clarke scored a century in his debut test and all that
satyam1729 Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 didnt they beat india in 2005-6 or sth. Micahel clarke scored a century in his debut test and all that Ponting never played in any of the test match they won. He played in 4th and they lost.
King Tendulkar Posted March 28, 2011 Posted March 28, 2011 But Steve Waugh and Allan Border never had the talent or ability of Ponting .They were very gritty players who became legendary because of the toughness they had shown. Agree they did not have abilty and stroke making of ponting
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