beetle Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 I still don't get it or i am not understanding it' date=' How it is people privacy if they are involved in PDA in public metro coaches where many public travels? They can't be expecting privacy :dontknow:[/quote'] They are not doing in front of people. The coach is empty......so they are really not offending other people.....They are stupid .
StriKe Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 :wall: First, there were no people in the metro when they were traveling. Second, even if they were - can you tell me what right do you have to tape it? If it is indeed public, it is restricted to the public in the metro - why should you tape it and upload it to the Internet w/o their consent? :good: I agree that no one has right to upload the tape to the Internet and should be punished. Even if it was empty coach they shouldn't have done it. They are stupid and idiots. They are not doing in front of people. The coach is empty......so they are really not offending other people.....They are stupid . Agree :nice:
Crookbond Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 :good: I agree that no one has right to upload the tape to the Internet and should be punished. Even if it was empty coach they shouldn't have done it. Yea - no one has the right to tape it as well (in this case it was CCTV but you can't tape it on your mobile or any handheld device). The most irritating part however is that this incident has raised the issue of pervasive surveillance which has been neglected by most people who are playing the moral card of "they should be careful" etc. This is typical behavior for other such incidents like rape etc. too viz. blame the victim mentality. (PS - This is my general observation on social media not naming any particular person/poster).
beetle Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Some people like the thrill of doing it in public and risk getting caught. We were driving to Agra on the Yamuna expressway where you are legally allowed to drive 100 km/h ...and there were couples on the road side doing jhappeyan on the road side. One couple was hugging in the middle of the road. That is so insanely stupid.
beetle Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 I have no issues with the pervasive surveillance as it does help in solving crimes. In India most recordings are used as evidence and not seen live for crime prevention. I hope they do use these for that too.Hope to see them in buses ,autos and taxis too.
Aaku Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 i have seen highway pe chalate huye third base :(( scandalized :(( :(( and all this after they realized ki people are watching them kiss wiss. sabko dikhane ka shoq tha :dontknow:
Crookbond Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 I have no issues with the pervasive surveillance as it does help in solving crimes. In India most recordings are used as evidence and not seen live for crime prevention. I hope they do use these for that too.Hope to see them in buses ' date='autos and taxis too.[/quote'] Pervasive surveillance alone is of little help to law enforcement agencies. Apart from being a "reactive" tool, in real world they provide little or no help in conviction. In addition, they instill a sense of pseudo security which is the most dangerous aspect.
Laaloo Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 i have seen highway pe chalate huye third base :(( scandalized :(( :(( and all this after they realized ki people are watching them kiss wiss. sabko dikhane ka shoq tha :dontknow: Did you wait for the home run?:cantstop:
beetle Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 ^Oh c,mon...don't you see the news? Most robbery or murder case are solved because they got caught on some cctv or because of mobile surveillance.If they help in solving cases...why not? Privacy is not more important that safety or bringing criminals to justice.
Crookbond Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 ^Oh c' date='mon...don't you see the news? [b']Most robbery or murder case are solved because they got caught on some cctv or because of mobile surveillance.If they help in solving cases...why not? Privacy is not more important that safety or bringing criminals to justice. Is it? I want to see an overall statistics of the percentage of cases solved by CCTV's.
beetle Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 well ...it is all in the news and it makes a lot of sense to catch people who are caught doing the act on camera or seen around .It does help in overall investigation. There have been cases of kidnapping caught on railway stations followed by recovery of the child .Most kidnapping cases are also solved by putting the phones on surveillance. I guess you could ask around for statistics.
Crookbond Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 well ...it is all in the news and it makes a lot of sense to catch people who are caught doing the act on camera or seen around .It does help in overall investigation. There have been cases of kidnapping caught on railway stations followed by recovery of the child .Most kidnapping cases are also solved by putting the phones on surveillance. I guess you could ask around for statistics. I am not completely devaluing the use of CCTV's, I am merely questioning the undue importance of the CCTV which people think is a magic pill. Here's a report which shows the usefulness of CCTVs - An internal Metropolitan Police report from London, UK (2009) revealed that CCTV's helped solve 1 crime per year for every 1,000 cameras despite having a budget of 500M pounds and 1M cameras installed. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/cctv-in-the-spotlight-one-crime-solved-for-every-1000-cameras-1776774.html
superstar Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 I am not completely devaluing the use of CCTV's, I am merely questioning the undue importance of the CCTV which people think is a magic pill. Here's a report which shows the usefulness of CCTVs - An internal Metropolitan Police report from London, UK (2009) revealed that CCTV's helped solve 1 crime per year for every 1,000 cameras despite having a budget of 500M pounds and 1M cameras installed. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/cctv-in-the-spotlight-one-crime-solved-for-every-1000-cameras-1776774.html The question is how many crimes does it avoid
beetle Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 ^ Crime prevention can only happen with live surveillance and rapid action teams. where do we have those kind of resources? sare poliewaale to VIPs ki suraksha mein lage hein.:((Crime solving mein madad se he khush rahna padega.
Crookbond Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 ^ Crime prevention can only happen with live surveillance and rapid action teams. where do we have those kind of resources? sare poliewaale to VIPs ki suraksha mein lage hein.:((Crime solving mein madad se he khush rahna padega. Live surveillance is VERY hard even for the most advanced/developing countries. In most cases, these countries deal with crime prevention happens at the 'source'. In India, we try to solve cancer via pills when the actual solution is chemotherapy.
rkt.india Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 :orderorder: we`ve got the 1st suspect,call the DP ^Haan shakk mujhe bhi hai :orderorder: :orderorder:
Laaloo Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 Some people like the thrill of doing it in public and risk getting caught. We were driving to Agra on the Yamuna expressway where you are legally allowed to drive 100 km/h ...and there were couples on the road side doing jhappeyan on the road side. One couple was hugging in the middle of the road. That is so insanely stupid. saale beech sadak mein kutte ki tarah chipak jaate hain :facepalm:
Detonator Posted July 11, 2013 Posted July 11, 2013 What about other trains? Some people are running whole families in the trains. Even in some movies, the hero and heroine celebrate their "first night" in trains :facepalm:
Sachin=GOD Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 MTS to Provide Free Wi-Fi on Rapid Metro Gurgaon Rapid MetroRail commuters in Gurgaon will have access to free Wi-Fi services on all trains running on the 5.1-km long six-station corridor starting Wednesday. Sistema Shyam Teleservices, which operates under MTS brand name, has partnered with Rapid MetroRail Gurgaon Ltd. for providing this service. Apart from the Rapid Metro trains, MTS will also provide free Wi-Fi access on four stations including Sikanderpur, IndusInd Bank Cyber City, Phase 2 and Micromax Moulsari Avenue. MTS has set up five kiosks on four Rapid Metro stations where commuters can procure Wi-Fi coupons. The service, which the company says will be experienced by 30,000 daily commuters, will remain free for six months. "This one of its kind service will enable commuters to access fast and consistent data speeds of up to 9.8mbps on MTS' 3G plus network," MTS India Chief Executive Officer Dmitry Shukov told reporters in Gurgaon. He added that MTS is also looking at opportunities to provide similar services in other public places, including metros and educational institutes in other cities. The company said it had commissioned an internal research to gauge consumer interest in using Wi-Fi services while travelling in Rapid Metro. The study, undertaken by AZ Research, highlighted that more than 95 percent of commuters wanted to have access to Internet while using the Rapid Metro. The percentage was highest amongst travellers in the age-group of 15-35 years. "With most of the daily commuters using smartphones and tablets, people will experience fast and consistent data speeds on MTS 3G plus network," Rapid Metro Gurgaon MD and CEO Sanjiv Rai said. http://gadgets.ndtv.com/internet/news/mts-to-provide-free-wi-fi-on-rapid-metro-gurgaon-524650 :nice:
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