Cricketics Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Imagine instead of CIA, if it would have been Mossad, they would have made sure they stay there and complete the deal. I am not ignoring the CIA's effort. I mean hats off for pulling this off. But I would have liked if they would have stayed there, and made sure they would seal this whole thing by questioning the lady who was shot in the leg, who is considered to be Osama's umpteenth wife. I am hearing the lady and Osama's daugther who experienced the situation are in Pakistani custody. ( It sucks. They are going to perhaps teach them something and would try to protect them. Mossad would have exposed the ISI totally left, right and centre. Here, even though the word is out in the media, still CIA's not so fitting end to this mission has left a bit of benefit of doubt for the ISI.
ganeshran Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Israel and Mossad have never really cared about Pakistan. Except the Arab War where there were a few Pakistani pilots fighting on the Arab side, I doubt if there was any direct confrontation. Its just the Pakistanis who for some reason consider Israel to be their sworn enemies :hmmmm2: I dont the operation could have been handled any better by the CIA. They got their main target, didnt make any major f**kups. If it was done by Mossad, you can be sure they would have never confirmed their involvement in it and taken an ambiguous "neither confirm, nor deny" position on the whole operation.
Alchemist Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 CIA has more control on Pakistan than the Pakistan govt. They are diplomatic and would like to think out the best strategy. May be keeping ISI under the wraps to make Pakistan there permenant base is their objective. The whole incidence is a mystery. And with no proof it becomes more complicated.
yoda Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 They can't just sit there and question people. They were inside another country without the knowledge of their military and had to get out ASAP. As it is they spent 40 mins there.
punjabi_khota Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Mossad is more known for covert poison_in_your_coffee type operations though.
rkt.india Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 All stories...nothing convincing....Laaden..what a myth he has become........ US gvt. says something..Pak says something else...Pak says they knew Laaden is living here since 2003 and keeping an eye on him...They say US gvt knew about it since 2008....US in 2008 said Laaden is died because of organ failures...now they again revived him.....A photoshoped picture was aired on every channel....Laaden got burial in 24 hours like he had to tale flight to Hell....and then DNA stories.....only CIA could have pulled this off......
jonas10 Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Israel and Mossad have never really cared about Pakistan. Except the Arab War where there were a few Pakistani pilots fighting on the Arab side' date= I doubt if there was any direct confrontation. Its just the Pakistanis who for some reason consider Israel to be their sworn enemies :hmmmm2: I dont the operation could have been handled any better by the CIA. They got their main target, didnt make any major f**kups. If it was done by Mossad, you can be sure they would have never confirmed their involvement in it and taken an ambiguous "neither confirm, nor deny" position on the whole operation. Have Arabs every fought on the side of Pakistani in their little misadventure wars against India? Um of course not! In fact most Arab countries have supported India against Pakistan :giggle: As for your second question the so called Israel enemy its just part of the Pakistani worship hoping to get in the good books of the Arabs they worship so much. Most Pakistanis think they are descendents of Arab princes or something :hysterical: They are actually nearly the same genetically as the Indians they hate so much! They want the world to view the Kashmir situation as Palestine situation which even the majority of Arabs fully reject. Their strategy hate the Jewish boogy man. Thats why you only see Kashmir protests in Pakistan while you see Palestine protests around the world! :two_thumbs_up:
Stuge Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 If we had Mossad instead of RAW.. abhi tak 26/11 ka revenge pura hogaya hota .
asterix Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 This appears to be a Botch job.. Why did they leave behind the Wife and the daughter? They would've revealed so much of information. Was there no space for 2 more people in the choppers?
CSK Fan Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 This appears to be a Botch job.. Why did they leave behind the Wife and the daughter? They would've revealed so much of information. Was there no space for 2 more people in the choppers? They did seize many computers and hard drives which seems to have a lot of information about Pakistani connections and Al Queda. Of course we might never know what is in them and muslim women abducted from Pakistan in American custody. Surely you would understand the impact of that. I thought it was a very professional job by CIA
someone Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Mossad are really the best. First and more importantly, they would either accept nor deny that they would have done this attack. This is really crucial as this uncertainty is an advantage would security agencies. this would have been really private rather then public situation, .
asterix Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 They did seize many computers and hard drives which seems to have a lot of information about Pakistani connections and Al Queda. Of course we might never know what is in them and muslim women abducted from Pakistan in American custody. Surely you would understand the impact of that. I thought it was a very professional job by CIA Okay.. So let me get it right.. The CIA decided to leave the 2 witnesses of the operation alive for ISI's custody. CIA also percieved that both the witnesses will not divulge the details of the operation to ISI and will not "sing". CIA expects that both the witnesses will in future: 1) Not claim that all of them were first tortured and then the male members killed. 2) Not claim that they were sexually molested during the operation. 3) Not claim that the US forces were swearing at Islam and Muslims while killing Bin Laden and his gang. 4) Not claim..
yoda Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Okay.. So let me get it right.. The CIA decided to leave the 2 witnesses of the operation alive for ISI's custody. CIA also percieved that both the witnesses will not divulge the details of the operation to ISI and will not "sing". CIA expects that both the witnesses will in future: 1) Not claim that all of them were first tortured and then the male members killed. 2) Not claim that they were sexually molested during the operation. 3) Not claim that the US forces were swearing at Islam and Muslims while killing Bin Laden and his gang. 4) Not claim.. What was their mission?
CSK Fan Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 People are losing all perspective here. It was Bin Laden who was wanted by US, not his wife and children. Collateral damage aside, do you really think anyone would approve kidnapping of civilians, women and children, from another country just because they were witnesses?
Sooda Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Pak would have not let Israeli helicopters fly over their airspace though, as they did with americas.
Lurker Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Had it been Mossad a war would have already initiated by now. Mossad must also be perhaps the most overrated institution of its kind in the world, specially amongst Indians. Even Israelis do not support it as much as we seem to do these days. There are enough books on the subject questioning Mossad's invincibility specially with recent few wars/skirmishes that Israel has been a part of. Now if only there were a few books explaining why Indians are so Mossad-phile. :winky:
The Outsider Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Pak would have not let Israeli helicopters fly over their airspace though' date=' as they did with americas.[/quote'] Pakistan had no clue about the choppers - the latest evidence from the downed helicopter with evidence of never before seen radar evasion technology proves it to me without any doubt.
Sooda Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 ^ Really? Inclined to believe what the CIA director said about info being leaked had the ISI known...but to me the public denials of all knowledge are just to appease the anti american Sentiments of the Pak Populace. And I also thought that to fly as far as they did would defnitely be detected...did not know of this evasion tech...
asterix Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 What was their mission? What was their mission? To help Obama win an election.. :giggle: It'll be interesting to see what will be their mission for Ayeman Zawahiri, Mulla Omar etc., say in coming 10 years.. :hysterical: WHatever "State department" says, every one have to believe it...
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