zen Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 I am not surprised at your ignorant reply. Where did I say that going silent is the only way to express how much the crowd respects/fears a certain opponent. I will keep it short - going by the opposition team/crowd's reaction - even though Sehwag is perceived more intimidating, SRTs wicket is still more prized. Also there are many incidents of the dominant Aussie teams' & crowds' response to SRT taking the crease/getting out. Appears as if you have no clue to the reaction that Warney managed to get in SA .... What you are saying is general stuff, blah blah stuff, .... when I said what I said abt Warney, the things you are suggesting were already taken into consideration If you have a valid point go ahead and make it. There is no point in trying to manufacture one :winky:
Dayman Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 Swagger/confidence is a good thing. It can coexist with classy batsmen or bowlers, it doenst have to be one or the other. It's only bad when you show it without any substance to back it up. Like Munaf staring down batsmen after he bowls one of his gentle medium pacers.
akshayxyz Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 Appears as if you have no clue to the reaction that Warney managed to get in SA .... What you are saying is general stuff, blah blah stuff, .... when I said what I said abt Warney, the things you are suggesting were already taken into consideration If you have a valid point go ahead and make it. There is no point in trying to manufacture one :winky: hmm, this time you surprised with decency of your reply. Its so rare that I have to acknowledge it. Anyway, my point was - First of all this crowd response etal is highly subjective parameter and was quite tangential to the OP. You could have talked about Warne's gesture/gait, it would still have been aligned with topic of swagger or lack of it. Swagger/confidence is a good thing. It can coexist with classy batsmen or bowlers, it doenst have to be one or the other. It's only bad when you show it without any substance to back it up. Like Munaf staring down batsmen after he bowls one of his gentle medium pacers. Off all people you picked poor soul Munaf!!.. that tiny winy attitude too he shows is only after he really does well :). Sreesanth would have been more apt example of attitude with not enough substance to back it up with.
zen Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 hmm, this time you surprised with decency of your reply. Its so rare that I have to acknowledge it. Anyway, my point was - First of all this crowd response etal is highly subjective parameter and was quite tangential to the OP. You could have talked about Warne's gesture/gait, it would still have been aligned with topic of swagger or lack of it. As I said, you are over analyzing my comments :winky:
flamy Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 Swagger/confidence is a good thing. It can coexist with classy batsmen or bowlers' date=' it doenst have to be one or the other.[/quote'] OP seems to have a problem with this that I can't quite fathom.
zen Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 That's because someone picked Viv over Sachin .... OP forgot that swagger is an additive to the skills .... he probably thought that people are picking Viv only because of his swagger .... In fact Sohail and afridi were spoken for their swagger too as if Richards is in their league .... that frustration probably lead to this thread :winky:
punjabi_khota Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 ^Dude what's with the "wink" after every post :dontknow: Everytime I see that wink, I try to look for something clever in your posts which could be linked to your wink, but they are as rett-arded as ever.
zen Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 ^Dude what's with the "wink" after every post :dontknow: Everytime I see that wink, I try to look for something clever in your posts which could be linked to your wink, but they are as rett-arded as ever. Everytime I read your post, I wonder why doesn't this khota have a khota as an avatar? may be you are a khota who wants to be .... :hysterical: .... Then I wonder, why does this donkey act as if he knows more than others when he doesn't .... then I am like "oh, that's coz he is a donkey" :giggle: Ofc you are some PhD .... some donkey degree, I guess So before you wonder what something stands for, remember what you are :winky: And I am being nice this time :P
rkt.india Posted June 26, 2011 Posted June 26, 2011 Anyone knows how much swagger SreeShanth has?:winky::--D
CSK Fan Posted June 26, 2011 Posted June 26, 2011 Can we get a swagger coach please? BCCI has enough money and our players are enough talent. Looks like only thing keeping us back from achieving our true potential is a bit of swagger
rkt.india Posted June 26, 2011 Posted June 26, 2011 Can we get a swagger coach please? BCCI has enough money and our players are enough talent. Looks like only thing keeping us back from achieving our true potential is a bit of swagger We already had Before Gary, The Guru Greg, Swagger-est coach ever:giggle:
zen Posted June 26, 2011 Posted June 26, 2011 Anyone knows how much swagger SreeShanth has?:winky::--D Is he like Lillee ? :omg:
ravishingravi Posted June 26, 2011 Posted June 26, 2011 Anyone knows how much swagger SreeShanth has?:winky::--D Enough to inspire fear within his own ranks.
achilles Posted June 26, 2011 Posted June 26, 2011 You always want to have a balanced outfit. Sachin, Dravid, Dhoni fill in the boots of the rather silent types. You want some people who are extremely competitive (not saying that the 3 above are not). Sehwag, Gambhir, Yuvraj. You want people who can talk and perform. Harbhajan, Virat, Zaheer. You want people whose mere sight gets their team an advantage. Sreesanth, Ishant, Jadeja (everyone loves to hate him). All these kinda people make a balanced team.
Khalpat Posted June 26, 2011 Posted June 26, 2011 If it’s a batting beauty with the ball coming on to the bat, give me Sehwag or Laxman; if there’s a truly great array of bowlers set to be unleashed, give me Tendulkar. If it’s a minefield, give me Dravid. Great bowlers and a taut state of the match are a bonus. No need of Viv, Bradman any one
akshayxyz Posted June 26, 2011 Posted June 26, 2011 If it’s a batting beauty with the ball coming on to the bat' date= give me Sehwag or Laxman; if there’s a truly great array of bowlers set to be unleashed, give me Tendulkar. If it’s a minefield, give me Dravid. Great bowlers and a taut state of the match are a bonus. No need of Viv, Bradman any one The only problem is SRT has proven to fit all the above type shoes. That is why whenever there is a debate or appreciation of some certain skill, SRT is default contender. That what separates him from the crowd and that is what makes sites like ICF such a minefield of debates. So called fanatics, antifan-atics were not known to exist before SRT :winky:.
rkt.india Posted June 26, 2011 Posted June 26, 2011 Is he like Lillee ? :omg: But he shows even more swagger than Lillee...aakhir Lillee ka chela hai , the Lillee who used to have fear of bowling in India...i have heard like that somewhere....:nervous:
zen Posted June 26, 2011 Posted June 26, 2011 But he shows even more swagger than Lillee...aakhir Lillee ka chela hai ' date=' the Lillee who used to have fear of bowling in India...i have heard like that somewhere....:nervous:[/quote'] So per you he must be better than Lillee :omg: .... if not, that swagger doesn't count :winky:
Khalpat Posted June 26, 2011 Posted June 26, 2011 The only problem is SRT has proven to fit all the above type shoes. That is why whenever there is a debate or appreciation of some certain skill, SRT is default contender. That what separates him from the crowd and that is what makes sites like ICF such a minefield of debates. So called fanatics, antifan-atics were not known to exist before SRT :winky:. Nobody can question the batting ability of Maestro but my personal take is if its a patta wicket absolutely flat track then I would prefer Sehwag over Sachin, may be the sheer dominance of him would be the only reason to watch the inning. I really want Sachin to play against the so called greats I think thats the best contest like if bowler is Dale Steyn, Murli, Warne, Akram, Mcgrath etc. And if the pitch is minefield and India needs someone to save us it would be only one and one Rahul Dravid.
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