Lord Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 It is heartening to see a bowler running through a side. Last i saw was Zaheer running through Bangladesh in one of the test. lol when was the last 9fer taken by Indian pacer in India.must be 3-4 years back thats how good it was
maniac Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 lol when was the last 9fer taken by Indian pacer in India.must be 3-4 years back thats how good it was A fast bowler won mos in india against atg aussie side....greatest performance in the last decade
rkt.india Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 Shami has once again proved that' date=' in test matches held in the northern region of India during the winter months, fast bowlers with above average speed and ability to reverse swing the ball can be a real factor. If you guys recall, Zak was bullying opposition batsmen at home with this skill for a while between 2008 and 2010.[/quote'] Zak never bowled a spell like this in India. It was more Ishant than Zaheer who used to bowl really well in India.
rkt.india Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 Seems BP spotted this one :sherlock: That was his first Duleep trophy match, final between East and Central Zone in 2011, which he played once Nechim got injured and was unplayable, took 8 wickets along with 6 catches dropped of him in slip and by WK. This was the match which brought him in foray, in the eyes of selectors and he was straightaway picked for India A. Though I was keeping an eye on him even before that when he debuted for Bengal.
vvvslaxman Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 I didn't really have great opinion about this guy. But the reverse swing he generated at good length was a sight to behold. I didn't see much of those earlier.
FischerTal Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 What about a overseas mos and mos against atg aussie side oe mom in ctsf???? Kal paidha hua kya I remember the 30 run over to a tailender like Faulkner. :giggle: We should all hail Faulkner for that over. That's the only reason shami is here today
Lord Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 A fast bowler won mos in india against atg aussie side....greatest performance in the last decade are you saying Shami'll go that way too?:((
maniac Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 I remember the 30 run over to a tailender like Faulkner. :giggle: We should all hail Faulkner for that over. That's the only reason shami is here today 2 mos+ctsfmom> 1test against average team. Ps-I like shami now :giggle:
Zanjeer Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 ] That was his first Duleep trophy match' date=' final between East and Central Zone in 2011, which he played once Nechim got injured and was unplayable, took 8 wickets along with 6 catches dropped of him in slip and by WK. This was the match which brought him in foray, in the eyes of selectors and he was straightaway picked for India A. [b']Though I was keeping an eye on him even before that when he debuted for Bengal. :hatsoff::giggle:
FischerTal Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 2 mos+ctsfmom> 1test against average team. Ps-I like shami now :giggle: He still isn't coming back to the team again :aetsch:
jf1gp_1 Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 saw the highlights and maybe there is hope for us. Couldnt believe the way he brought those balls in
Zanjeer Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 That was his first Duleep trophy match' date=' final between East and Central Zone in 2011, which he played once Nechim got injured and was unplayable, took 8 wickets along with 6 catches dropped of him in slip and by WK. This was the match which brought him in foray, in the eyes of selectors and he was straightaway picked for India A. Though I was keeping an eye on him even before that when he debuted for Bengal.[/quote'] One should look for the pace in the first place to see if the bowler can become a bowling great in the future. Don't look for anything else. Even reverse swing is lethal only if it is bowled at pace. Reverse swing without pace is no use at all.
rkt.india Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 I didn't really have great opinion about this guy. But the reverse swing he generated at good length was a sight to behold. I didn't see much of those earlier. Even after what he did in Aus series?
maniac Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 One should look for the pace in the first place to see if the bowler can become a bowling great in the future. Don't look for anything else. Even reverse swing is lethal only if it is bowled at pace. Reverse swing without pace is no use at all. Not true...vinay bowls fastet than bhuvan or pk
Zanjeer Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 Not true...vinay bowls fastet than bhuvan or pk Vinay bowls around 125-130. If you think that's pace, you must be a 15 year old struggling to to pull the foreskin in your penis...:haha:
maniac Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 Vinay bowls around 125-130. If you think that's pace' date=' you must be a 15 year old struggling to to pull the foreskin in your penis...:haha:[/quote'] You said pace is everything.....I disproved the myth....pk and bhuvan when on song can look a lot more threatening....ps....I have seen vinay hit 140 in aus odis but still.sucked
maniac Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 ^ a bowler needs skill.....malinga is nothing without his yorkers and killer short ball otherwise he bowls atthe same pace as ishant, faulkner etc
Zanjeer Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 You said pace is everything.....I disproved the myth....pk and bhuvan when on song can look a lot more threatening....ps....I have seen vinay hit 140 in aus odis but still.sucked Pk and bhuvi can cause trouble when the ball is new and ideal for swinging. Once the ball gets old they don't have anything to offer but to bowl line and length all day. Vk, hits 135-140 once in a 20 matches. These days he struggles to even 130s. A bowler like shami can swing the new ball at pace and later he can get reverse swing at pace which is so hard to handle. The last test match was a prime example for that. If you are trying to be a fast bowler, just try to bowl fast. Don't think about anything else. Just think I have to knock his block of..
rkt.india Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 You said pace is everything.....I disproved the myth....pk and bhuvan when on song can look a lot more threatening....ps....I have seen vinay hit 140 in aus odis but still.sucked No. When he hit 140K, he had bowled well that was T20 match and he troubled Warner with pace and bounce in that match at MCG, but these days he just does not seem to put nay effort in his bowling. Even in ODIs there he put effort and did well, was one of our best seamer in ODI series but has gone down after that. Regarding pace, pace is not everything. Even if you have pace, you will have bowl right line and length, but a guy who has pace and bowls right line and length and can also move the ball is what we are talking about. Pace bowling is not just run in and hurl the ball towards batsman as quick as you can but bowling in right areas and using your pace and skills as a weapon. A bowler with pace and skills will always be more difficult to face than a bowler with lower pace and skills. Ask WI batsmen who they will rather want to face BK or Shami, Shami being 10 k quicker than BK.
Zanjeer Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 ^ a bowler needs skill.....malinga is nothing without his yorkers and killer short ball otherwise he bowls atthe same pace as ishant' date=' faulkner etc[/quote'] Malinga bowls around 140s. His Yorkers are difficult to handle because he has an unique action and the point of delivery is difficult to pick as a batsman. Ask him to bowl 130k and see if he can be as effective as he is now. Once he loses pace, he would not be as effective as he is now.
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