vvvslaxman Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 Umesh and Ishant both are different and Ishant's career was screwed up because of his own undoings. ODI or T20 does not have anything to do with it. If you change your bowling action' date=' bowling approach, you will face these problems. Ishant tried this and got the unwanted results.[/quote'] It demands different skills for ODIs. Your length, line has to change a bit for it. Some guys adapt well. Some don't. It is better not risking them play both formats and end up screwing in both formats. In Umesh's case injury scare is always around the corner. So they better preserve him just for tests atleast at the start of his career. Otherwise take it me we will lose him very very soon.
rkt.india Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 It demands different skills for ODIs. Your length' date=' line has to change a bit for it. Some guys adapt well. Some don't. It is better not risking them play both formats and end up screwing in both formats. In Umesh's case injury scare is always around the corner. So they better preserve him just for tests atleast at the start of his career. Otherwise take it me we will lose him very very soon.[/quote'] Right length is right length whether it is test or ODI. T20 can be different but not ODIs. I would say they should play him but still rotate the bowlers, not play in every match. We play only 8-12 test in a year. It creates a lot of gap and a bowler at his peak fitness would not want so much game in playing matches, that is why he should play ODIs, but in rotation. We yet to have a few fast bowlers to try and give them enough chances, likes of Abu Nechim, Dhawal Kulkarni, Mohammad Shami, Rahul Shukla, Ashok Dinda, Mithun, and Tyagi, etc. Selectors just need to widen their eyes and see the talented guys we are having in our domestic set up and rotate the bowlers.
WC2011INDIA Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 good pace bowlers. But S H I T with the bat. Not their fault though. Our batsmen need to wake up.
saneindian Posted November 29, 2011 Author Posted November 29, 2011 And now they win us the match with their bat. Amazing.
Number Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 :yay: played for the first time together and finished the game.:two_thumbs_up:
sumvell Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 Aaron's batting is a revelation. So was his running between the wickets. not in the same class as ashwin though.
Manny_Pacquiao Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 aaron's bowling is too slow. vijay kumar should be preferred to him because he can bat better and can play MATCH WINNING innings.
King Tendulkar Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 aaron's bowling is too slow. vijay kumar should be preferred to him because he can bat better and can play MATCH WINNING innings. Now I know your on a wind up :fishing:
Manny_Pacquiao Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 Now I know your on a wind up :fishing: dead serious bruv. aaron's bowling was 135 kmph. i can bowl that on one leg. its just waaay too slow. vijay can bat better, that is indisputable. he should be preferred ahead of raymond aaron.
King Tendulkar Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 dead serious bruv. aaron's bowling was 135 kmph. i can bowl that on one leg. its just waaay too slow. vijay can bat better, that is indisputable. he should be preferred ahead of raymond aaron. Aaron was clocking 90 mph at times
Manny_Pacquiao Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 Aaron was clocking 90 mph at times no, he wasnt i followed the match on cricinfo commentary, so i know better than you.
Old guy Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 do we have a troll here? :D he was quick u dont need to see speed gun to tell that open ur eyes mate watch match dont just read and watch scores on cric info! :P
rkt.india Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 So was his running between the wickets. not in the same class as ashwin though. Aaron is a handy bat and is known as a big hitter lower down the order, has an SR of 138.59 in domestic one day games, and has hit 6 sixes in 11 matches he has played.
rkt.india Posted November 29, 2011 Posted November 29, 2011 no, he wasnt i followed the match on cricinfo commentary, so i know better than you. What are you talking about. His average speed was 140K yesterday, hit 145K consistently, and was over 140K most of the time. Cricinfo shows mostly different speeds than on TV, but still they were showing good speeds for him. 8.1 Aaron to Samuels, OUT, 135.4 kph, timber! Samuels ends up looking as clumsy as humpty dumpty. Aaron gets his natural inward shape from a length. Samuels is stuck with the most curious stance since Chanderpaul, and just lunges forward to feel for it. One leg is in Cuttack, the other in Bhubaneshwar and the bat somewhere in between. He is beaten by the inward movement, the ball hits the back pad and disturbs leg stump. Might have been saved if the stance wasn't so open. Or so weird. MN Samuels b Aaron 10 (17m 11b 2x4 0x6) SR: 90.90 Bravo is the new man in. Aaron shifts round the stumps. 8.2 Aaron to Bravo, 1 wide, slips the first ball down the leg side. One wide slip in place. 8.2 Aaron to Bravo, 1 wide, 139.3 kph, a wicket followed by two wides. This one slips even wider down the leg side. 8.2 Aaron to Bravo, 1 run, 136.3 kph, Bravo is away, gets width outside off and steers a single through the covers. 8.3 Aaron to Simmons, no run, 141.4 kph, back of a length outside off, not a lot of carry as Simmons leaves. 8.4 Aaron to Simmons, no run, 138.7 kph, Simmons gets forward and guides a length ball to point. Aaron's not yet hit the speeds Umesh managed today ... 8.5 Aaron to Simmons, 1 run, 140.3 kph, full toss on the pads, clipped straight to midwicket. And Kohli throws needlessly to concede the overthrow. 8.6 Aaron to Bravo, 1 leg bye, 147.1 kph, appeal for lbw, but it is sliding down the leg side for sure. Bravo gets a leg bye into the off side. 10.1 Aaron to Bravo, no run, 141.6 kph, back of a length outside off, defended from the crease. Bravo seems to have an extra instant at hand to deal with the pace. 10.2 Aaron to Bravo, 1 run, 142.2 kph, opens the face this time and guides a single through point. Two slips in place. Hyatt faces for the first time. 10.3 Aaron to Hyatt, no run, 140.1 kph, a Simmons-like flourish as he hops onto the back foot and defends towards point. 10.4 Aaron to Hyatt, no run, 145.1 kph, full and tempting outside off, Hyatt lets the ball go through to the keeper. 10.5 Aaron to Hyatt, no run, 140.7 kph 10.6 Aaron to Hyatt, FOUR, 142.6 kph, too much width outside off, and Hyatt cashes in with a fluent drive through the covers that he did well to keep down. Pierces the cover field and the ball buzzes along for four. "Its nice to imagine, pace of Aaron, Yadav, Cummins and Tait if he is playing. Just need to settle down Aaron and Yadav. Do not get carried away with pace. Control and Swing should be more important," says Anil. 12.1 Aaron to Bravo, no run, 139.3 kph, short and fast, angling in and cramping Bravo who still goes for the pull. He's in no position and mistimes it to wide mid-on. 12.2 Aaron to Bravo, no run, 140.7 kph, Bravo stays back and pushes a length ball towards point. "We wanted a Hyatt in Bhubaneswar. How come Hyatt is in cuttack now... take him off now, India!," says Shiven. 12.3 Aaron to Bravo, 2 runs, 144.7 kph, angled into the pads, and Bravo's fluid timing comes into play. Worked off the pads through square leg for a couple. 12.4 Aaron to Bravo, no run, 139.1 kph, back of a length outside off, Bravo drives on the up but mistimes it towards point. 12.5 Aaron to Bravo, 1 run, 144.1 kph, on the pads at 145 kph, Bravo nudges it round the corner towards fine leg for a single. 12.6 Aaron to Hyatt, no run, 143.1 kph, Hyatt shoulders arms outside off as Aaron bustles through on a length. 15.1 Aaron to Hyatt, no run, 140.0 kph, he continues to maintain good lengths outside off and Hyatt hops across to shoulder arms. 15.2 Aaron to Hyatt, no run, 141.4 kph, another leave outside off, the ball dies on Parthi who fumbles as he collects and it jumps up to hit the face. Babyface at that. Ouch. 15.3 Aaron to Hyatt, 1 run, 134.5 kph, Hyatt heaves away with hard hands as Aaron rolls his fingers on a legcutter that goes marginally away. Played away behind point for a single. 15.4 Aaron to Bravo, FOUR, 140.9 kph, Bravura from Bravo! Short and fast ball angling in outside off, and Bravo unleashes a carve of Lara-esque proportions. The bat swing ended at midwicket, and gave the ball a fair tonk on the way, that took it almost all the way over the covers. 15.5 Aaron to Bravo, 1 wide, 135.4 kph, Aaron tries too hard to cut the room and slips this one down the leg side. 15.5 Aaron to Bravo, 1 wide, 140.2 kph, another wide down the leg side. Ragged from Aaron, he doesn't seem to like bowling round the stumps. 15.5 Aaron to Bravo, 1 run, 142.2 kph, on the stumps now, and Bravo pushes to mid-on for a single. 15.6 Aaron to Hyatt, no run, 142.6 kph, Hyatt unleashes an almighty hoick outside off and misses a short wide ball 17.1 Aaron to Bravo, no run, 143.6 kph, 144 kph, full and fast from Aaron, who has toes in his eyes. Bravo is stuck on the back foot and plays all around it, but the ball was slipping down the leg when it struck him. 17.2 Aaron to Bravo, FOUR, 145 kph, another full ball outside off and Bravo jams down on it and gets a thick outside edge that hurtles past Parthiv to the third man fence. 17.3 Aaron to Bravo, no run, 142.6 kph, packs a fair thump on this one, fast delivery on a length and it is punched to cover, but finds the fielder. 17.4 Aaron to Bravo, FOUR, 141.8 kph, 142 kph, and Bravo sends it past cover at 284 kph at least. A smouldering cover drive to deal with the pace and show Aaron who is the boss. Deep point didn't have a chance to stop that once it found the gap in the infield. 17.5 Aaron to Bravo, no run, 141.8 kph, another flowing smash through the covers, but this time he picks out the man inside the circle. Bravo is looking the part here. 17.6 Aaron to Bravo, no run, 142.3 kph, short of a length to end the over, Bravo adjusts and defends even as it straightens. 19.1 Aaron to Bravo, 2 runs, 141.8 kph, inside edge, but safe. Bravo pushes away from the body with awry balance as Aaron angles in, and the ball squeezes away through square leg. 19.2 Aaron to Bravo, no run, 136.5 kph, back of a length outside off, Bravo adjusts and opens the face to play it to point. 19.3 Aaron to Bravo, 1 run, 143.7 kph, quick and angled in from round the stumps, Bravo doesn't have room but manages to time the steer well enough for a single through point. 19.4 Aaron to Hyatt, no run, 145.5 kph, beaten outside off. Hyatt has his feet firmly plastered to the turf as he plays a cut. Beaten for pace, comprehensively. 19.5 Aaron to Hyatt, no run, fuller now, allows Hyatt to thump the drive with good timing. He finds point, though. 19.6 Aaron to Hyatt, no run, 143.1 kph, timed even better, but dead straight to Raina who takes the missile without flinching, even as he falls back to cushion the impact. How many 135K deliveries there, 3 out of 36.
The Dark Horse Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 no, he wasnt i followed the match on cricinfo commentary, so i know better than you. Yea vinay kumar is faster than aaron
Old guy Posted November 30, 2011 Posted November 30, 2011 vk is much much quicker can give kumble a run for money
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