Sachin and Bradman comparison : Oz & Indian press

[goose]

Bradman better than Tendulkar is like saying the student that came way out on top nationwide in his maths A-level (aged 18) is better (or would be better) than the student that just got a first class degree at Cambridge.

[Tiger80]

Unless a sport sees a decline in talent pool over the years (heavy weight boxing for instance)' date= modern athletes would always better than their older counterparts. That point is simply not up for debate. People can claim that the gap between Bradman and his competition is greater than the gap between Sachin and his competition, I'd accept that. But You can be damn sure that, in absolute terms, atleast 5 modern batsmen are better than bradman (sachin, ponting, dravid, kallis and lara)

I don't know how much this theory holds ground as the world's most popular game football don't have any greatest player at present.Pele and Maradona who were conisdered as greatest are from different era.Also women's tennis has seen sharp decline as none of present genertaion player are even half good as steffi graf was

[Sachin=GOD]

I don't know how much this theory holds ground as the world's most popular game football don't have any greatest player at present.Pele and Maradona who were conisdered as greatest are from different era.Also women's tennis has seen sharp decline as none of present genertaion player are even half good as steffi graf was

Many people have already said that Messi is at par with the likes of Pele, Maradona etc.

[mishra]

^ What about Williams sisters... During 2002-03, when British press was reporting How Tim Henman can become Wimbledon Champion a lot of people were laughing If he can actually win a match against either of two sisters. Not sure anyone possed that view about Steffi

[zen]

We can add the virtuoso batsman theory by our own vijay sharma to the list of such studies done :P

[Vijay.Sharma]

I don't know how much this theory holds ground as the world's most popular game football don't have any greatest player at present.Pele and Maradona who were conisdered as greatest are from different era.Also women's tennis has seen sharp decline as none of present genertaion player are even half good as steffi graf was

Consider it this way...as the sport grows in popularity there are many more people playing it which means there will necessarily be an increase in competition often times exponential increase. Therefore a great player like Pele or Maradona who stood out among their peers would also be great today but may not stand out so obviously simply because there would be many more Maradonas and Peles. Frank Tyson was probably the first bowler to bowl express and he did it only in one series consistently. But in the last 10 years itself we have seen at least 10 bowlers bowl 90 mph for a whole series and one of the reasons for that is that there is an increase, by at least a hundred fold, in the number of people playing cricket. Edit - Trivia - the greatest of them all at least by the number of goals scored is a Brazilian by name Artur Friedreich who played....u guessed it right, in the 1930s!

[zen]

Irony barometer just blew away.

:hysterical:

[Vijay.Sharma]

We can add the virtuoso batsman theory by our own vijay sharma to the list of such studies done :P

hey but you must admit that my analysis was a much more detailed and more in depth than this one :winky:

[mishra]

hey but you must admit that my analysis was a much more detailed and more in depth than this one :winky:

+ RPT

[akshayxyz]

Consider it this way...as the sport grows in popularity there are many more people playing it which means there will necessarily be an increase in competition often times exponential increase. Therefore a great player like Pele or Maradona who stood out among their peers would also be great today but may not stand out so obviously simply because there would be many more Maradonas and Peles. Frank Tyson was probably the first bowler to bowl express and he did it only in one series consistently. But in the last 10 years itself we have seen at least 10 bowlers bowl 90 mph for a whole series and one of the reasons for that is that there is an increase, by at least a hundred fold, in the number of people playing cricket. Edit - Trivia - the greatest of them all at least by the number of goals scored is a Brazilian by name Artur Friedreich who played....u guessed it right, in the 1930s!

looks like 30s was golden era - which is never going to be replicated again. Another legend "Walter Lindrum" dominated the billiards scene during that era - he was active during same years as Bradman, and outclassed his peers by as much ( if not more) margin. That guy even used to give handicaps ( head start of 100s of points) to other world class players of his time!! That would be like Bradman starting at -20/30 and yet score a century!

On Lindrum's second tour of England, in late 1930, Donald Bradman and other members of the touring Australian cricket team, would sometimes attend Lindrum's matches at Thurston Hall, London. As an indication of the esteem in which Lindrum was held, the critic Neville Cardus referred to Bradman as "the Lindrum of cricket"

[The Outsider]

Perfect example of the kind of crazy results which would arise out of any effort which puts Tendulkar ahead of Bradman. Sure, if you are crazy enough to believe Kallis is the third best batsman to have played the game of cricket, then believing Tendulkar is greater than Bradman is not much of a stretch from there.

[mishra]

Why dont we strike out all the records of cricket as leisure/hobby activity players and then see if we can derive a method to identify the best of the best. I bet all the anomalies are arising just because people are being sensitive to feelings of Grandad cricket players and its historians and considering their heroes in their equations

[CG]

Inzamam, not Tendulkar close to Bradman's style: Study Melbourne: Australian great Sir Don Bradman himself declared that Sachin Tendulkar reminded him of his own batting style but former English cricketer Tony Shillinglaw chooses to disagree. He has argued through a study that technique wise both the players are as different as chalk and cheese. Shillinglaw, who is a coach now, has conducted an extensive biomechanical study of Bradman's technique and claims that actually it is Pakistan's Inzamam-ul Haq, who comes close to Bradman's batting style. Shillinglaw says that the only striking similarity between Bradman and Tendulkar is that both the players are good watchers of the ball but the Indian is actually confined by orthodoxy. "It's almost become a myth that if you're watching Tendulkar, you're watching Bradman. Well, there is very little comparison when you do so. Tendulkar is basically textbook, whereas Bradman used a rotary method in preparing to hit the ball," Shillinglaw was quoted as saying in 'Sydney Morning Herald'. "What you get with that is it becomes just a human instinct to react to the ball, and in the end that's the basis of Bradman's method. It's a circular motion. He didn't learn to bat, he learned to control the ball." Bradman had said in an interview in 1996 that after being struck by Tendulkar's technique, he had asked his wife to look at the Indian's batting style and she also agreed that there were similarities. Shillinglaw, who analysed Bradman at length and had scientists at Liverpool's John Moores University recreate his strokes, accepts there are some facets of Bradman's batting that resonate in Tendulkar. But, technically, he says, they are very different.

[Tiger80]

Consider it this way...as the sport grows in popularity there are many more people playing it which means there will necessarily be an increase in competition often times exponential increase. Therefore a great player like Pele or Maradona who stood out among their peers would also be great today but may not stand out so obviously simply because there would be many more Maradonas and Peles. Frank Tyson was probably the first bowler to bowl express and he did it only in one series consistently. But in the last 10 years itself we have seen at least 10 bowlers bowl 90 mph for a whole series and one of the reasons for that is that there is an increase, by at least a hundred fold, in the number of people playing cricket. Edit - Trivia - the greatest of them all at least by the number of goals scored is a Brazilian by name Artur Friedreich who played....u guessed it right, in the 1930s!

But cricket has not grown in popularity :dontknow: Infact it is the only sports where some very good teams are now minnows.The only country where cricket popularity has increased is BD and they have yet to produce any good player

[Andrew Peter]

There was no need to mention Inzamam alongside Tendulkar and Bradman , insult hogayi yeh to God aur Bradman ki .

[Lord]

Bradman batted like this? BUuiy-PQ_eU AhBE8UGyk5M

[Number]

So .... Bradman would have averaged around 50 in this era.

[Zap_Brannigan]

Both are in a way binary men while playing in Australia...Bradman scored 100 while inzi scored 001

[Andrew Peter]

Both are in a way binary men while playing in Australia...Bradman scored 100 while inzi scored 001

:hysterical: Bro , Inzy had the habit of getting injured as soon as he landed in Australia otherwise you know what he was capable of , ask Imran .

[CG]

Bradman batted like this? BUuiy-PQ_eU AhBE8UGyk5M

Actually from footage bradman technique looked worse than dhoni's.