Manny_Pacquiao Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Once again i think everyone is focusing too much on the batting. Of course the media is having a field day with our galacticos failing but it's the weak link in our bowling attack that is letting us down. oh come on. this batting lineup gets shot out for low scores AT home against teams like west indies. there is NO EXCUSE for getting bowled out on good batting pitches. it happened in england, happened in some of our home tests and its happening here at the SCG, a ground where india scored almost 600 in 2007/8 and 705 in 2003/4. the bowlers are carrying us right now. our batting lineup blows and the grandads need to be tucked away into their retirement homes ASAP
Manny_Pacquiao Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 I think you're being too critical of Dravid here. he is being REALISTIC. a guy who calls himself THE WALL shouldnt be getting his sticks rearranged every single innings. if the guy cant defend, what good is he??
coffee_rules Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 I have watched all Indian batting. There is nothing to suggest that they will improve in these conditions. Unless the pitch turn flat, our batting will not click. Laxman is the Tendulkar of England '11.
Ultimate_Game Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 I have watched all Indian batting. There is nothing to suggest that they will improve in these conditions. Unless the pitch turn flat' date=' our batting will not click. Laxman is the Tendulkar of England '11.[/quote'] Not gonna happen. Even if the pitch turns flat it will still be bouncy and we haven't shown enough ability and application to convince us they can score on a true bouncy surface.
zep1706 Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Chance of storm tomorrow' date=' so might be overcast so good chance for our bowlers to get quick wickets. If we do bowl them out for under 250. [b']I don't see our batting fail for 4th time in a row. 4th time, that will be like 16th time in a row :haha:
Laaloo Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 I have watched all Indian batting. There is nothing to suggest that they will improve in these conditions. Unless the pitch turn flat' date=' our batting will not click. Laxman is the Tendulkar of England '11.[/quote'] Laxman looks worse than Tendulkar in England. Tendulkar actually looked positive in some of the innings in England. Laxman just looks dead lost. And his fielding and running between the wickets doesn't really inspire confidence. Even yesterday he gobbled the first catch. Thankfully, Sachin was there to take the catch off the rebound.
zep1706 Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Not gonna happen. Even if the pitch turns flat it will still be bouncy and we haven't shown enough ability and application to convince us they can score on a true bouncy surface. Bounce alone isn't the problem for the top order. It's the lateral movement, which is why they have kept grass on the surface. In our last two tours to Australia the pitches didn't have this much grass on them, so the batting was good. This time they have kept grass on purpose after they saw the batting performance of the Indians on the grazing fields of England.
goose Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 How can you say that? We managed to get Aussies cheaply last Test and may well do so this test as well. But it won't help if the batsmen don't show up. After some point bowlers' morale will take a hit and they can't keep on bowling throughout the test with just a 60 odd overs break thrown in when our superstars go out and score 200. How do you think their bats would do against their own bowlers?
Ultimate_Game Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 How do you think their bats would do against their own bowlers? Better than what we have done - at least they look to score runs. Ponting and Hussey did that in the 1st test and Ponting and Clarke are doing it this test. Anyways it's a moot point and similar to "would Richards had been as great if he had faced his own bowlers in 80s". The bottom line is that our goose has well and truly been cooked this series.
kabira Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 The difference btwen their bowling and ours is, they kept the pressure, even when wicket were not falling they always bowled in channel...Ishant and Yadav are not able to do the same.bowling one line...
VRV Singh Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 I can actually see a positive start tomorrow morning with a couple going quickly, but Sir Donald Pattinson will probably turn up again.
Ultimate_Game Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 I can actually see a positive start tomorrow morning with a couple going quickly' date=' but Sir Donald Pattinson will probably turn up again.[/quote'] If not him then Haddin might have a great day or Siddle may get a quick 40 or Lyon might show up tomorrow to get his maiden 50. The possibilities are endless :winky:
kabira Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Better than what we have done - at least they look to score runs. Ponting and Hussey did that in the 1st test and Ponting and Clarke are doing it this test. Anyways it's a moot point and similar to "would Richards had been as great if he had faced his own bowlers in 80s". The bottom line is that our goose has well and truly been cooked this series. well regarding looking to score runs, it depends on bowling as well, if you bowl bad balls they are going to score runs. The ball does something for 30 overs...all we have to do is bat safely, you have to be good leaver to succeed..Instead of that we saw, Gambhir, Laxman and Sehwag playing shots that they should not have. Give atleast two hours to bowler...
Rajiv Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 he is being REALISTIC. a guy who calls himself THE WALL shouldnt be getting his sticks rearranged every single innings. if the guy cant defend, what good is he?? ..that statement cannot be more wrong, its almost criminal
Sachin=GOD Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 he is being REALISTIC. a guy who calls himself THE WALL shouldnt be getting his sticks rearranged every single innings. if the guy cant defend, what good is he?? so was it you who made 3 centuries in England and 68 in the 1st Test last week??
Ultimate_Game Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 well regarding looking to score runs, it depends on bowling as well, if you bowl bad balls they are going to score runs. The ball does something for 30 overs...all we have to do is bat safely, you have to be good leaver to succeed..Instead of that we saw, Gambhir, Laxman and Sehwag playing shots that they should not have. Give atleast two hours to bowler... In 2 hrs most of our batting order is back in dressing room for lunch :haha:
kabira Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 ^yes exactly...by trying to play too many shots..Even Pattison said that, they seem to be in hurry.
cowboysfan Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 they have lost patience,even dravid and sachin have got out to balls which they could have left alone in this series ,the openers are the worst culprit here.
Manny_Pacquiao Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 so was it you who made 3 centuries in England and 68 in the 1st Test last week?? i think his crap batting in this tour has conclusively proven that the england series was a fluke. i wouldnt care about the low scores, but the manner of his dismissals are shocking, guy looks like a tailender. he was in good touch at MCG first innings but got worse as the day went on. i think that will be the highlight of his tour and possibly his last 50+ score?? we'll see at least the selfish ***** has moved out of first slip. i thought this was never gonna happen what with his 200 catches and all. u know how we love counting records and stuff. next step, move him to the retirement home. B->u
Ultimate_Game Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 ^yes exactly...by trying to play too many shots..Even Pattison said that' date=' they seem to be in hurry.[/quote'] They couldn't block either as Dravid and Gambhir showed.
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