Should Irfan get a chance in the NZ test series?

[rkt.india]

Biggest weakness of NZ is raw pace irrespective of quality. From Sami to Akram all thrived against NZ due to sheer pace. They are very much used to dibbly dobbly bowlers. But raw pace. Always the weakness. So load the side with raw pace bowlers . Bombard them with pace. I know quality is not there. But NZ flunks regardless of the quality when it is pace.

Only once bowler can bowl with pace right now, Yadav. Ishant and Aaron not recovered.

[Needforspeed]

In test matches Irfan can be in the squad only if he is selected as a batsman who can also bowl, not as one of the regular bowlers.

[msb1991]

Ishant has one of the best records in India fora fast bowler. He had real bad WI test series at home. Otherwise' date=' he was averaging 28 before that.[/quote'] There is no rational reason to discount that series. It was recent so if anything, it should count more.

[Sooda]

Biggest weakness of NZ is raw pace irrespective of quality. From Sami to Akram all thrived against NZ due to sheer pace. They are very much used to dibbly dobbly bowlers. But raw pace. Always the weakness. So load the side with raw pace bowlers . Bombard them with pace. I know quality is not there. But NZ flunks regardless of the quality when it is pace.

Pak paceman always did well in NZ where conditions were tailor made for them...Im sure NZ can not be particularly good vs Spinners ...even our good but not great spinners will be more of a threat at home than our sole out and out paceman

[Old guy]

now dont confuse odis with tests please :(( wht worng has yadav done in tests to get dropped ? and if zack is injured then bring in some one who has done well in ranji pathan would be crap in tests after first 10 overs

[maniac]

TBF....He did pretty decently in his last 3 test matches...probably got dumped on his ODI failures to begin with

[rkt.india]

There is no rational reason to discount that series. It was recent so if anything' date=' it should count more.[/quote'] No. It should not count that much because anyone can have a bad series. Even Dale Steyn had a bad series in Dubai. Otherwise, Ishant has played in India since 2007 and you are talking about one bad series in which he played with ankle injury.

[rkt.india]

Pak paceman always did well in NZ where conditions were tailor made for them...Im sure NZ can not be particularly good vs Spinners ...even our good but not great spinners will be more of a threat at home than our sole out and out paceman

Our spinners did zilch last time when ZN came to India. It was Ishant who had taken 7 wickets in the test we won in that series. Most tracks will be flat, not turning and then may be rain affected. It may help fast bowlers

[maniac]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/332912.html ^ This was his last test match...top scorer in 1st innings,unbeaten in both innings...No wickets in an innings where the opposition piled up 600+ http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/291354.html Failed with the bat but was asked to open in tough conditions...Best bowler in the only innings http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/291353.html Man of the match enough said Also scored a 100 in the innings before that against Pak

[rkt.india]

TBF....He did pretty decently in his last 3 test matches...probably got dumped on his ODI failures to begin with

Those matches were I guess in Australia, not India.

[maniac]

Those matches were I guess in Australia' date=' not India.[/quote'] True but it's not like everyone else around him set the world on fire.....He could have made it on his batting alone

[rkt.india]

True but it's not like everyone else around him set the world on fire.....He could have made it on his batting alone

Why should he be there? We need bowlers, not batsman. As a bowler, I dont think he will do anything. Zak and Yadav are our front line pacers in tests for now in India.

[Sooda]

^ He COULD be there as an allrounder of course... with regards to the spinners, yes they did zlich but they need tracks that bounce and turn not pattas to help them to bowl well.

[JourneyMan]

Yadav does have pace, but my main issue with him is that he doesn't seem to have a clue about what he's doing. Agree with the people saying keep Pathan in the squad. Might come handy.

[jairamesh]

Yes, but as an all-rounder, so Irfan + four bowlers. So drop Laxman.

[ShebbySB]

where has varun aaron gone?

He's injured again.

[adi B]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/332912.html ^ This was his last test match...top scorer in 1st innings,unbeaten in both innings...No wickets in an innings where the opposition piled up 600+ http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/291354.html Failed with the bat but was asked to open in tough conditions...Best bowler in the only innings http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/291353.html Man of the match enough said Also scored a 100 in the innings before that against Pak

those are 4 years back stats,in that scenario bring back jaffer or ganguly then they were good that time :orderorder:

[psrb4u]

He deserve a place in the team. He has performed well in the recent time.

[King Tendulkar]

Should have been an option for that he is cr@p and no way good enough

[Executioner]

where has varun aaron gone?

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