1983-2011 Posted August 11, 2012 Posted August 11, 2012 butter chicken' date='we need meat eating selectors to produce fast bowlers[/quote'] they dont get to produce them:giggle:
Lord Posted August 11, 2012 Posted August 11, 2012 they dont get to produce them:giggle: but atleast they would be aggresive enough to select them
yoda Posted August 12, 2012 Posted August 12, 2012 Test #1, ODI WC - Say bye bye to the Worst selection committee of all time. :hahaha:
someone Posted August 12, 2012 Posted August 12, 2012 Complaints, complaints forever. This selection issues basically an "never-ending" thread . Squad selected, people complain based on why not him instead of that player India does bad in the tour, people complain based on hindsight But when India does well, everybody quiet and suddenly start praising them. Never-ending cycle really.
The Outsider Posted August 12, 2012 Posted August 12, 2012 Test #1' date=' ODI WC - Say bye bye to the Worst selection committee of all time. :hahaha:[/quote'] Maybe you can spend a few minutes of your life trying to understand the difference between correlation and causality instead of blindly cheering everything Tamil.
CG Posted August 13, 2012 Author Posted August 13, 2012 The other day weren't you ranting about Pathan being dropped from the side for no fault of his? WHo made that decision of getting him sent back from the middle of the SA tour in 2006? And the Vengsarkar panel gave us Wasim Jaffer as an ODI opener in SA condition dropped Sehwag from tests for not doing well in ODIs, forced Dravid to quit captaincy after we had won a test series in England after 21 years! Not to forget the awesome 2007 WC we had under that panel. All this achieved in a little under 2 year long tenure. 1.:hysterical: .Irfan pathan was performing very poorly then and team management and he himslef wanted to comeback to play domestic cricket as he was not going to get a game then. 2.Shewag needed to dropped his attitude had become pathetic and fitness non existant.His dropping gave him anew lease of life. 3.:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: dravid was not forced to quit from captaincy,he himself gave up as he did not enjoy it he has said it in numerous interviews. As for achievments are u forgetting we won the cb series ,won in eng,lost 2-1 in aus and won in india all the series.
CG Posted August 13, 2012 Author Posted August 13, 2012 Read what I say and try to understand - selectors are one part of the problem but not the major part. The issue lies somewhere else and we will continue barking down the wrong tree. No matter what selection panel you have you will discuss' date=' argue and argue more over their fallacies.[/quote'] Man try to understand what i said yes selections are hard but what kris srikant and company have done have been madness,he picked his son saying he did not know the format of tournamnet ,some players like chawla are picked with out any reason and earlier atleast they ahd press conferences but now nothing .You need rationla people as selectors not stupids.Selection is a major part of sports and always will be.
velu Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 chikkas best moment as a selector , cheer leading for sachin .. :phehehe: 9bofYX1akXM
Crookbond Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 Man try to understand what i said yes selections are hard but what kris srikant and company have done have been madness' date='he picked his son saying he did not know the format of tournamnet ,some players like chawla are picked with out any reason and earlier atleast they ahd press conferences but now nothing .You need rationla people as selectors not stupids.Selection is a major part of sports and always will be.[/quote'] We are talking the same thing then!
The Dark Horse Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 @ people who think Vengsarkar was better
saneindian Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 1.:hysterical: .Irfan pathan was performing very poorly then and team management and he himslef wanted to comeback to play domestic cricket as he was not going to get a game then. 2.Shewag needed to dropped his attitude had become pathetic and fitness non existant.His dropping gave him anew lease of life. 3.:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: dravid was not forced to quit from captaincy,he himself gave up as he did not enjoy it he has said it in numerous interviews. As for achievments are u forgetting we won the cb series ,won in eng,lost 2-1 in aus and won in india all the series. let's see what the numbers suggest Under Vengsarkar from Sept 2006 to Sept 2008- 1. Tests Test series in SA in SA, we lost 1-2 vs BD in BD , tests won 1-0 Vs Eng in Eng , 1-0 vs Pak in India, won 1-0 vs Aus in Aus lost 1-2 vs SA in India, drew 1-1 in SL , lost 1-2 2. ODIs Lost in the DLF cup in Malaysia Lost in the CT at home Lost 0-4 to SA in SA Won 3-1 vs WI Won 2-1 vs SL Knocked out in round 1 of 2007 WC Won series vs SA 2-1 Lost 3-4 to Eng in ODIs Lost 2-4 to Aus at home Won 3-2 vs Pak Won the CB series Lost the Kitply Cup :(( and Asia Cup Won the ODIs in SL 3-2 Records under Vengsarkar tenure Test Series- Played 7, won 3, lost 3, drawn 1 Test- Played 21, won 7, lost 7, drawn 7, W/L of 1 Played 16 ODI series, won 8, lost 8 Played 72 ODIs, won 36 and lost 31, W/L ratio of 1.2 Comparable records under Cheeka Test Series- 14 played, won 9 , lost 2, drawn 3 Tests- 41 played, 17 won, 11 lost, 13 drawn, a W/L of 1.6 ODI series played - 24 played, won 15, lost 9 ODIs- played 113, won 69, lost 36, W/L ratio of 1.9 Despite the setbacks of the last 12 months, still impressive numbers if we go purely by how many matches we won and lost under Vengsarkar vs Cheeka. Draw your own inferences and conclusions.
vayuu1 Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 Dhinka chika Dhinka chika Dhinka chika Dhinka chika ae ae ae aeB->
Crookbond Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 Dear Srikkanth, may we not see your like again The Olympics have robbed India’s chief selector of his moment of glory – he has presided over his last selection meeting and the news was greeted with barely a murmur. But he surely deserves better. Srikkanth’s panel, appointed in 2008, was the first-ever fully paid BCCI selection committee. They earned Rs 25 lakhs per annum to begin with and that was upped to Rs 40 lakhs in December 2009. The move was intended to make the selectors “accountable.” But instead of that, all we heard was this: “Boss, shut up! You keep quiet. Aap aise googly bol-bol ke baat karega toh mai bhi gussa ho jaega. Aap mere ko ungli daloge toh mere se kya expect karte ho,” said Srikkanth a few months back. Has Srikkanth failed to tackle the issue of senior players retiring from the team? AFP Indeed, the issue was that we expected a lot from India’s ‘professional’ selectors but all we got was one googly after another from Srikkanth and Co. Remember the match against South Africa in 2010, when Rohit Sharma was injured on the morning of the match and his place was taken by Wriddhiman Saha – simply because the selectors had forgotten to include any other batsmen in the set-up. Srikkanth’s response on a TV channel was telling: “As the chairman of the selection panel, I am willing to own up responsibility. It’s a lesson learnt, and from now on we will not select players who are not 100% fit…” So till then, they were content picking up half-fit guys and hoping that they would recover in time for the match. But the lesson wasn’t learnt very well – because they did the same thing by picking Zaheer Khan for a tour of England last year even when he had obvious fitness issues. After India’s failures in England and Australia, the chief selector came up with another gem: “In subcontinent conditions, these guys will do well.” The rumoured fight between Mahendra Singh Dhoni and Virender Sehwag during the tour of Australia saw the latter being dropped for the Asia Cup but Srikkanth thought it fit to convince us otherwise: “I can 500 percent assure you honestly that nobody’s been dropped” He also managed to make stating the obvious seem like a work of art. After India’s early exit at the ICC World T20 in the West Indies: “There were probably a few areas where we’ll probably have to rework, correct ourselves and then come back in the game. Like playing short-pitched bowling, practising more on that. That will help.” Thank you for telling us something that a generation of Indian cricketers and fans have known for a long time. He also proved himself to be an excellent diplomat. After the trashing India received in England – they did not win a single match. “We had a pretty young side in England and we did well, although we didn’t win any match but that was more to do with the injuries and rain, or otherwise we could have won a few matches at least,” said Srikkanth. ‘We did well.’ And during his tenure, he also managed to prove that he is a good dad and in India, family matters. That earned him a few brownie points with president N Srinivasan, who was then the secretary. He managed to somehow squeeze his son, Anirudha Srikkanth, into India’s Emerging Players Squad that went on tour to Australia. Srikkanth said the selection had been arrived at with “consensus”, and Srinivasan told that media he did not talk about selection matters. One of the few times, we’ve seen Srikkanth remain silent. Srikkanth is also a brand ambassador of the Chennai Super Kings IPL team and his dual role raised a conflict-of-interest debate. But Srikkanth’s only response to the controversy was – as he told The Indian Express – “Yes, I am. I don’t want to talk about it, you ask the board about this issue,” he said. Silence again. But perhaps his biggest failing was in refusing to plan for the retirements of the seniors like Rahul Dravid, VVS Laxman and Sachin Tendulkar. The juniors have just not been groomed to take over and Srikkanth’s tired rhetoric throughout has been: “The seniors can decide for themselves.” Of course, it was during Srikkanth’s tenure that India won the cricket World Cup in 2011. But one can’t help but think that the victory had more to do with the players than with astute selections. They also managed to pick Rahul Sharma after he had not even had a decent run in Ranji trophy. Of course, the last selection meeting was true to form as well – Yuvraj Singh, Harbhajan Singh, Laxmipathy Balalji and Piyush Chawla all made a return to the team for the World T20. Srikkanth’s legacy as a selector is of chaos — random selections and strange reasoning accompanying each of them. And for a man who comes across as one who loves to talk, he will sadly be remembered for his silences. Wonder if someone doing ungli would have got him to break his silence on the difficult questions as well… :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: http://www.firstpost.com/sports/dear-srikkanth-may-we-not-see-your-like-again-416552.html
Ultimate_Game Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 Dear Srikkanth' date= may we not see your like again :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: http://www.firstpost.com/sports/dear-srikkanth-may-we-not-see-your-like-again-416552.html Very telling and accurate description of Srikkanth and selection panel headed by him. He was a nepotist, gutless, lacked balls to make any hard decision and worst of all lacked conviction in his own decisions.
Crookbond Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 This comment takes the case for me - audacity after not winning a single game on the tour! “We had a pretty young side in England and we did well, although we didn’t win any match but that was more to do with the injuries and rain, or otherwise we could have won a few matches at least,” said Srikkanth. ‘We did well.’ I mean using rain and injuries as an excuse is surely quite novel.
Ultimate_Game Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 This comment takes the case for me - audacity after not winning a single game on the tour! I mean using rain and injuries as an excuse is surely quite novel. Which "few" matches was he refering to? That 0-4 hiding was pretty one-sided :((
Lord Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 Very telling and accurate description of Srikkanth and selection panel headed by him. He was a nepotist' date=' gutless, lacked balls to make any hard decision and worst of all lacked conviction in his own decisions.[/quote'] but but but he got us the WC n made us no.1 test team.u must surely be an anti- Chennai racist to hate such a successful selector:--D
GautiMaan Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 This comment takes the case for me - audacity after not winning a single game on the tour! I mean using rain and injuries as an excuse is surely quite novel. Its true about ODI's.The D/L rule always favoured England in that series
Crookbond Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 ^ Rain + injuries is NOT an excuse for not winning even a single game that tour. D/L may have favored England but we let D/L favor England.
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