CSK Fan Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 Very little any captain can do if you are 8-4 or 66-6 or 43-5 in every innings. Yes, lets forgot all those humiliating losses, lets forget all the 3 years of loses Lets just focus on these 2 or 3 instances Also when a yuvraj singh or a Sachin or bowler plays out of their skins and helps you win world cups and tests, all hailo Dhoni the greatest, best captain ever. When team loses, then the really new guys should take ALL the blame and zero blame on Dhoni Are you even reading the excuses you are making each time. BCCI thinks exactly like you and that is why I have no hope in the near future. Look at the easiest scapegoat to let Dhoni continue each and every fecking time after every loss. Do not look into the root causes and lack of moral and defensive and defeatist attitude overseas at all. It is ANYTHING but Dhoni And I know you will ignore this post and again repeat your one lined statement in every other thread :giggle:
velu Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 Yes, lets forgot all those humiliating losses, lets forget all the 3 years of loses Lets just focus on these 2 or 3 instances Also when a yuvraj singh or a Sachin or bowler plays out of their skins and helps you win world cups and tests, all hailo Dhoni the greatest, best captain ever. When team loses, then the really new guys should take ALL the blame and zero blame on Dhoni Are you even reading the excuses you are making each time. BCCI thinks exactly like you and that is why I have no hope in the near future. Look at the easiest scapegoat to let Dhoni continue each and every fecking time after every loss. Do not look into the root causes and lack of moral and defensive and defeatist attitude overseas at all. It is ANYTHING but Dhoni And I know you will ignore this post and again repeat your one lined statement in every other thread :giggle: ad hominem :hehe:
badmash Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 Dhoni scored almost double the amount of all the players combined..if anything he should REMAIN in the team. my 2 cents: Gambhir should be out indefinitely...will ALWAYS get out nicking the ball outside off to slip.. Kohli and Pujara should be given chances since their recent past baggage is pretty heavy.. Binny...LMAO..thats alll b.kumar..good bowler, can see him developing his art aaron..should be given chances Ashwin...should be given chances
express bowling Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 So you're saying that if Ganguly (or any other great captain) was appointed in his place' date=' the results would be different?[/quote'] The only way to find out if the despicable and deplorable test performances are due to the captain or not ... is to try out a new one. We will never know whether we could get a better captain unless we try a new one .... isn't it ? Dhoni is failing completely as a test captain. What can be worse if we try a new one ? Also, Dhoni, knowing that his captaincy is safe, is not performing optimally as a test captain. Something he would have if there were accountability.
zep1706 Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 Dhoni scored almost double the amount of all the players combined..if anything he should REMAIN in the team. I thought the issue here is his captaincy. Based on his performance in this series he certainly deserves to be in the team, but not as a captain.
velu Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 I thought the issue here is his captaincy. Based on his performance in this series he certainly deserves to be in the team' date=' but not as a captain.[/quote'] here the main issue is our top order batting or lack of it
Straight Drive Posted August 16, 2014 Posted August 16, 2014 If we lose this overseas series too, i would prefer Dhoni to be our wicket keeper batsman but ripped off captaincy. There is huge inexperience amongst alternative captains, however, one cannot say that inexperienced captain will necessarily flop. Look at South Africa. They opted for Graeme Smith when he was 22 year and few months old. He made debut in 2002 and was given captaincy in 2003 with experience of just 8 test matches. We cannot use inexperience and give it 100% weight age while deciding to not give someone captaincy.I do not mean that we should blindly follow what SA did. However, the point is that it is not prudent to think that we cannot change captain just because there is inexperience in the team.
King Tendulkar Posted August 16, 2014 Author Posted August 16, 2014 So you're saying that if Ganguly (or any other great captain) was appointed in his place' date=' the results would be different?[/quote'] Yes He would have picked aaron and yadav in tandem. Pace Would have played 6 batsman Never would have picked cronie corrupt players like dhoni in jadeja and binny May have axed dhoni a while back to a keeper who can catch and dive, plus who scores runs overseas(well dhone dhoni scoring runs overseas for first time ever, shame about all those previous years) PLUS would have made the team motivated, determined , with desire to win and do well in tests and well for india. He would evidenced that from his own leadership and desire We have a leader who all the players know don't care about test cricket for india and only worried about csk and money. No talk of process for csk, there its about winning. The impact and influence this has on the team when they all know the skipper is not that bothered is enormous , as shown by the ass rapes and lack of fight consistently for many years now. Heck the lack of botherdness from the skipper even made us lose at home to England for first time since 1754!! We may not have won all the matches overseas under ganguly but we would have fought hard and certainly would not have been raped consistently with such weak surrender like this
King Tendulkar Posted August 16, 2014 Author Posted August 16, 2014 here the main issue is our top order batting or lack of it He has 4 tests to realise this. Yet still picks only 5 batsman. Sums up why he should be sacked. Clueless
King Tendulkar Posted August 16, 2014 Author Posted August 16, 2014 How can you ask for him to be sacked when he is the only one showing the stomach for a fight Well if who is captain is based on performance of player then he should have been sacked years and years ago. Well done for FINALLY scoring runs but not related to wether has a brain to be a skipper or wether is corrupt free to be skipper. Its like someone looking at the worlds wether forescast, seeing its raining in London so taking an umbrella out in Delhi even though its 90 degress . The two are just not related ps his keeping has been as usual awful
King Tendulkar Posted August 16, 2014 Author Posted August 16, 2014 Its impossible for him to be sacked cos of his sugar daddie and csk power. He is purely motivated by ££££ Hope he thinks that getting ass raped in aus and breaking records for losses and ass rapes may make him think it will effect his brand value (that's all he cares about) so step down. Well I can dream cant I?
velu Posted August 16, 2014 Posted August 16, 2014 Its impossible for him to be sacked cos of his sugar daddie and csk power. He is purely motivated by ££££ Hope he thinks that getting ass raped in aus and breaking records for losses and ass rapes may make him think it will effect his brand value (that's all he cares about) so step down. Well I can dream cant I? obsession with records :facepalm:
King Tendulkar Posted August 17, 2014 Author Posted August 17, 2014 Sack him now He is shameless and will never resign! Unless he thinks it effects his brand value getting ass raped
FischerTal Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 Sack him now He is shameless and will never resign! Unless he thinks it effects his brand value getting ass raped 59 pages and he's not dropped. face it, its not going to happen
Number Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 Another feather on his cap... :hatsoff: No somewhere else.
CSK Fan Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 59 pages and he's not dropped. face it' date=' its not going to happen[/quote'] Yep, Gavaskar accidentally slipped out the same thing. He said, what's the point of criticizing, nothing will change
someone Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 So what do we do next? We have lost the series, played terribly, surely the captain, Dhoni's position should be completely evaluated and possibly be sacked. But at the same time, how can we reward our poor batsman with the new role of the Indian cricket team. What kind of message will that send, play poorly and yet become a captain. How can be choose between these 2 situations?
maniac Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 Why is the debate about Dhoni being dropped here.....Any decent human being with even the slightest of self- would resign himself...I mean how many humiliations can a person withstand :banghead:
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