Sachinism Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Screw that. I'd rather take a win. Feel Dhoni will be going from the Test side either way
yoda Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 I am willing to take a test series loss and a loss at Nagpur if Dhoni has to be Kicked out of Test Team :mad:. Go England Go :two_thumbs_up: Would take a tied series over loss any day even with zero changes. Sachin will not go...He comes above Dhoni' date=' for that matter even BCCI.[/quote'] yes he is even above India, should find some global team instead of playing at lowly country level.
Trichromatic Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Indian fans expect too much. You wish something to find that nothing changes.
diga Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 Even Harsha agrees with the OP in cricinfo While none of us likes to lose, and we often try as hard as we can to delay or overcome defeat, there are times when it is not always the worst occurrence. Just as pain is a body's way of attracting attention to something wrong, and we ignore it at our own peril, so too can defeat be an alarm going off somewhere. It is how we react to defeat that tells us how serious we are about learning from it. England admitted that defeat against Pakistan in the UAE opened their eyes to how much further they needed to go, and said it contributed in no small part to their success here in India. During the first IPL when the Rajasthan Royals had just had a winning streak broken, Shane Warne suggested such a kick up the backside was needed to get the team focused on winning again. That is why I think defeat in this series may not be the worst thing to happen to Indian cricket. It will force introspection that, for whatever reason, might otherwise have been overlooked. Teams rarely introspect when they are winning; there is camaraderie, celebration, and no one is really keen to see why the team won. Sometimes defeat can be met with denial, a refusal to accept that there is a problem, or the feeling that the tide will turn when circumstances change. I suspect India allowed themselves to go through that phase in 2011-12. There was the world No. 1 tag and a World Cup glittering in the office and on bio-datas, so any suggestion of a weakness, like not crushing West Indies 2-0 in June 2011, was cast aside. No one wanted to hear about it, probably. When India lost in England and won 2-0 at home against West Indies (it is not always remembered there was a win between the two 0-4 results), it reinforced that India were champions at home (even though there was a scare in Mumbai). That is what probably led to the feeling, even after Australia, that all India needed to do was play at home and happy times would be here again. The one-sided series against New Zealand confirmed that, and with England due in November - let's be honest, everyone thought they would be run over - an analysis was postponed again, if indeed it was contemplated. Now that India have been driven to the brink, there is no choice but to realise that the weaknesses displayed in England and Australia were indicative of deeper fissures, that the illness had spread to home conditions. If India had won a one-sided series on rank turners, it would have covered up fundamental weaknesses for a little longer, and with 14-15 away Tests approaching, India could have been further exposed. . None of us, much as we would like to claim otherwise, have all the answers. But answers are what Indian cricket needs very quickly, because, irrespective of what happens in Nagpur, the time for major decision-making is here. A lot of good can come out of this series if we are willing to listen to what it is telling us about Indian cricket.
superstar Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 Not sure why everyone is calling for his blood. He has already expressed his desire to step down http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/story/549020.html I think he will be forced to do it.
diga Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 Not sure why everyone is calling for his blood. He has already expressed his desire to step down http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/story/549020.html I think he will be forced to do it. Yeah .. he can look at the future, but cannot forget the present (and the 8-0 in the past)
SLICKR392 Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 I am willing to take a test series loss and a loss at Nagpur if Dhoni has to be Kicked out of Test Team :mad:. Go England Go :two_thumbs_up: So far so good for you bro. :two_thumbs_up:
Sean Bradley Posted December 14, 2012 Author Posted December 14, 2012 :So far so good for you bro. :two_thumbs_up: :agree::agree: Where are the Dhobbbeee CheerGirls :girl_haha::girl_haha::girldance::girldance:
saneindian Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 If we lose this, besides Dhoni, we may very well see the end of Sehwag, Gambhir and Sachin as well. Qith the departure of Bhajji and Zaheer, that will mean having an India A side play the 1st test vs Aus! Wonder who will lead the side? Maybe Kaif will be recalled to the side and asked to lead lol
Sean Bradley Posted December 14, 2012 Author Posted December 14, 2012 If we lose this, besides Dhoni, we may very well see the end of Sehwag, Gambhir and Sachin as well. Qith the departure of Bhajji and Zaheer, that will mean having an India A side play the 1st test vs Aus! Wonder who will lead the side? Maybe Kaif will be recalled to the side and asked to lead lol All will be there, but dhoni wont lead the side..
Lord Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 Dhoni will stay now with Ind bowling out for a 'cheap' score Sachin,GG will go,maybe even Sehwag
saneindian Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 All will be there' date=' but dhoni wont lead the side..[/quote'] Why should Sehwag with an avg of 30 in 2 yrs, Gambhir with avg of 27 in 3 yrs and Sachin with avg of 32-33 in 18 months be there in the side? For an overhaul, all non-performers have to go . Only doing away with Dhoni will be merely cosmetic.
Crookbond Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 Why should Sehwag with an avg of 30 in 2 yrs, Gambhir with avg of 27 in 3 yrs and Sachin with avg of 32-33 in 18 months be there in the side? For an overhaul, all non-performers have to go . Only doing away with Dhoni will be merely cosmetic. +1 The sooner everyone understands the better it would be.
CG Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 Why should Sehwag with an avg of 30 in 2 yrs, Gambhir with avg of 27 in 3 yrs and Sachin with avg of 32-33 in 18 months be there in the side? For an overhaul, all non-performers have to go . Only doing away with Dhoni will be merely cosmetic. Because Sehwag scored a hundred and generally batted well ,Gambhir also fought well and averages 40 in this series.Sehwag has to bat at no 6 .Sachin has to go. Doing away with dhoni will be a start of a new era as he is the captain.
jairamesh Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 Nothing will happen, the home England ODI series will become revenge series.
Lord Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 Why should Sehwag with an avg of 30 in 2 yrs, Gambhir with avg of 27 in 3 yrs and Sachin with avg of 32-33 in 18 months be there in the side? For an overhaul, all non-performers have to go . Only doing away with Dhoni will be merely cosmetic. that'd be too risky.it would mean an A team.Gautam has shown signs of improvement imo n should be retained
saneindian Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 that'd be too risky.it would mean an A team.Gautam has shown signs of improvement imo n should be retained His technical issues have gone no where and has never ever looked settled even while scoring runs. Needs a break from test cricket.
Number Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 anyone but Dhoni. Dhoni leaves captaincy 50% problems solved. SRT goes 75%. A few changes and thing will be alrite.
Sachin=GOD Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 Screw that. I'd rather take a win. Feel Dhoni will be going from the Test side either way Even a draw brought about by rain would be enough of an excuse for Srini to retain Dhoni so I think the only way he going to go is if India loses a Test series at home :(
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