NareshK Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Sachin always said that he will retire when he feels he can no longer contribute or be the best for the team. He obviously felt he could still do well for the team after WC. He made a century and also scored a match winning knock against Pak in Semi Final. So the question of retirement after WC doesnt even arise.
Number Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Sachin always said that he will retire when he feels he can no longer contribute or be the best for the team. He obviously felt he could still do well for the team after WC. He made a century and also scored a match winning knock against Pak in Semi Final. So the question of retirement after WC doesnt even arise. He has said later that he had thoughts of retiring after WC win but he thought world cup win was a joyful moment for the whole nation and he didn't want to make it his own personal moment by retiring at that point of time so he delayed it.
CSK Fan Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 No he did not. He had enough chances to retire gracefully but selfishness for needless records and need to stay in team to compete in IPL got the better of his judgement. I think the selectors told him that he won't chosen in one days side as it would have made the situation uncomfortable for BCCI and he had no option but to declare his retirement after being dropped behind closed doors! Really? So which other batsmen are setting the stage ablaze now that he is gone? Who were performing better than him? Gambhir? Sehwag?? I am so glad Indian team is doing pathethic right now bBcause fair weather, short term memory fans like you deserve exactly players like Jadeja and Rohit Sharma, you are made for each other. Fans who dont show gratitude do not deserve anything in return, enjoy this Indian team and IPL On the one hand you say he should have retired on top gracefully and on the other hand you accuse him of being selfish? Dont you see the hypocrisy of your own statement? Retiring on the top just for your PERSONAL LEGACY is as selfish as anything else, look at how LARA retired dooming West indies cricket in dire straits for 2 extra years even though he could have played on if he was not worried about "RETIRING GRACEFULLY" You are so blind you do not see the hypocrisy of your own statement. You talk about not being selfish, on the other hand you talk about "RETIRING GRACEFULLY", retiring on a "PERSONAL HIGH", all of which are personal stuff and not team stuff In my own opinion people like Kohli, Rahane will do good to have someone like Sachin in the team for a while because Sehwag, Gambhir are not great role models these guys respect. In fact Kohli was doing well with Sachin in the team and he has repeatedly stated thisA new team always need a senior they can look up to. but you wont have the capacity to understand that, just wait for a couple of years, you will see. And every selector has denied dropping Sachin and giving him an ultimatum but of course, you are a clarvoriyant guy who show him being dropped in his dream so that must be true I know you will ignore this, but do read article where Sachin gives his reason for not retiring after WC 2011 because he did not want the world cup win, which he said was a team effort, to be over-shadowed by the news of his retirement. But then people get what they deserve, you deserve Jadeja and Sharma, you will get them. At least our generation was lucky enough to have Sachin, maybe because we are not ehsaan pharamosh
CSK Fan Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Because he was selfish If he was selfish, he would have worried about his own personal legacy over his blundering team and retired on a high like Lara than trying to still play for his team even when he know he wouldnt ahcieve his peak BTW, I always thought you were a good poster, but how can a cricket fan not respect someone like Sachin and call him names even after he has retired?
panther Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 If he was selfish, he would have worried about his own personal legacy over his blundering team and retired on a high like Lara than trying to still play for his team even when he know he wouldnt ahcieve his peak BTW, I always thought you were a good poster, but how can a cricket fan not respect someone like Sachin and call him names even after he has retired? He was chasing the 100 100, picking and choosing what matches to play. Is that not selfish?
CSK Fan Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Truly great people recognize the magnitude of an occasion. The mediocre ones fail to use it wisely and settle for something less. he sacrificed Sachin Tendulkar the legend with a chance at cult status to Sachin Tendulkar' date=' the money maker. Maybe Ambani had a hand in it to ensue his brand value as team's icon player didn't suffer and WC glory could be milked in IPL. Either way, poor judgement and poorer results now![/quote'] And with this one paragraph the hypocrisy of this poster stands exposed. He calls Sachin greedy and money hungry but fails to realise that when someone worries about his own cult status and legand status over his team he is equally being greedy, selfish and much more. And I am sure you can also see the contradiction in your own statement! How is being greedy for cult status over team goals any different or better than being greedy for money? If a player still has a year to contribute to his team but is more worried about the magnitude of the occasion, about his cult status and retires when his team needs him (as is clearly evident to the most blind observers seeing our openers perform in ODIs) then that player is the greediest, most selfish player ever You are fooling no one, you had no respect for Sachin in the first place, and I can see you rubbing your hand in glee with each post. Your statement about losing respect for Sachin in each post is very like how a racist starts his posts with, I am not a racist but.......................... But not to worry, your post will make a 100 times more people lose respect for you than anyone losing respect for Sachin.
CSK Fan Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 He was chasing the 100 100' date=' picking and choosing what matches to play. Is that not selfish?[/quote'] How do you know he was chasing a 100, ton? Didnt he play on after that? If he had played against weak team you would be the first one to question him again. In fact his picking and chosing series helped us test so many youngsters out which was the whole point. When did he miss an important series?
panther Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 How do you know he was chasing a 100' date=' ton? Didnt he play on after that? If he had played against weak team you would be the first one to question him again. In fact his picking and chosing series helped us test so many youngsters out which was the whole point. When did he miss an important series?[/quote'] Lol how many games did he play after that in odi? Yh rotation policy was conjured up to hide his pathetic chase of 100 100.
div Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Because he was selfish No.He was not match/spot fixer like so called Pakistani greats
panther Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 No.He was not match/spot fixer like so called Pakistani greats :offtopic:
Tendulkar_Bhai Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Its a shame but shows that he did not want a big farewell he is not that kind of player and what rubbish about him staying on for more advertising, he has more money than he can ever spend! He carried on as he was still playing well and team needed/needs him. Dravid or Laxman werent concerned about a send off either, people clapping and patting you on the back for an extra 10min these guys dont need. Tendulkar will however get a big one when he retires from tests.
goose Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Valid question. The cricketer will still grace our tv screens in test cricket. Celebrating his career in two instalments would really be befitting either. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
Yoda-esque Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Because. That's what happens when people ask "when" instead of "why"
The Outsider Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Really? So which other batsmen are setting the stage ablaze now that he is gone? Who were performing better than him? Gambhir? Sehwag?? I am so glad Indian team is doing pathethic right now bBcause fair weather, short term memory fans like you deserve exactly players like Jadeja and Rohit Sharma, you are made for each other. Fans who dont show gratitude do not deserve anything in return, enjoy this Indian team and IPL On the one hand you say he should have retired on top gracefully and on the other hand you accuse him of being selfish? Dont you see the hypocrisy of your own statement? Retiring on the top just for your PERSONAL LEGACY is as selfish as anything else, look at how LARA retired dooming West indies cricket in dire straits for 2 extra years even though he could have played on if he was not worried about "RETIRING GRACEFULLY" You are so blind you do not see the hypocrisy of your own statement. You talk about not being selfish, on the other hand you talk about "RETIRING GRACEFULLY", retiring on a "PERSONAL HIGH", all of which are personal stuff and not team stuff In my own opinion people like Kohli, Rahane will do good to have someone like Sachin in the team for a while because Sehwag, Gambhir are not great role models these guys respect. In fact Kohli was doing well with Sachin in the team and he has repeatedly stated thisA new team always need a senior they can look up to. but you wont have the capacity to understand that, just wait for a couple of years, you will see. And every selector has denied dropping Sachin and giving him an ultimatum but of course, you are a clarvoriyant guy who show him being dropped in his dream so that must be true I know you will ignore this, but do read article where Sachin gives his reason for not retiring after WC 2011 because he did not want the world cup win, which he said was a team effort, to be over-shadowed by the news of his retirement. But then people get what they deserve, you deserve Jadeja and Sharma, you will get them. At least our generation was lucky enough to have Sachin, maybe because we are not ehsaan pharamosh LOL! What an absurd, illogical rant! :hysterical:
Trichromatic Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Its sad Deserved much more He CHOSE to go like this.
saneindian Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 I know you will ignore this, but do read article where Sachin gives his reason for not retiring after WC 2011 because he did not want the world cup win, which he said was a team effort, to be over-shadowed by the news of his retirement. And we should accept that argument just because Sachin said it? Imran won the 92 WC and retired, not sure if it took the focus away from the WC win. Mcgrath too retired after the 2007 WC win, how selfish and it took the attention away from the team effort. If the focus was so much on not diluting the WC win, wouldn't the best thing have been to opt out of the IPL which started 4-5 days after the WC final?
CG Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 And we should accept that argument just because Sachin said it? Imran won the 92 WC and retired, not sure if it took the focus away from the WC win. Mcgrath too retired after the 2007 WC win, how selfish and it took the attention away from the team effort. If the focus was so much on not diluting the WC win, wouldn't the best thing have been to opt out of the IPL which started 4-5 days after the WC final? Hmm I Thought the cancer hospital speech did though.
vandokkum Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Retired 2 years late, probably that's why. And it's not like he has retired from test cricket.
Vikas Bhatt Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 I find your post most shocking Chandan. The BCCI had hinted that the selectors were talking to him of his plans. The BCCI is keeping it under wraps to avoid more controversies is all. And are you guys so sure he 'retired' on his own and wasn't 'pushed' behind closed doors with media calls and fan pressure increasing to make him retire? That he isn't on notice for one last test series inside? Just because they don't make it public to avoid a media circus doesn't mean he wasn't pushed! No one can doubt his selfishness when he skipped national duty in WI when he should have rested in IPL. Or the way he got that 100th ton and sacrificed team interest losing us the match against Bangladesh and a chance at Asia Cup finals when quick runs were the need of the hour and not a slow hundred. No one can doubt the reasons for the same. Why did he not declare his one day retirement earlier and hastily did it only after a disaster at home increased calls for his head and after he failed 6 consecutive home tests to even make himself count? It was clear he was never going to make the one day series after Pak if he played. The selectors would have given him only that one shot amidst calls to replace aging players with youngsters for England one dayers. But another failure here would have cost him a shot at playing 200 tests - a better personal milestone. So he smartly ducked the issue and spun it by retiring from one dayers. We need to be like Aus fans be more dispassionate when it comes to idols with feet of clay! And why would a WC win be overshadowed by his 'retirement' back then? In fact when the Indian team carried him on their shoulders after the final ended, most in the dressing room too were probably expecting him to retire form one dayers on a high! How can a celebration be muted by celebrating the end of a glorious career? What tripe? What stopped him retiring 5-6 months later when the WC thing was behind? Wasn't Dhoni's rotation policy and his open media conference controversy of openers in Aus one dayers an indication of how much his presence was disrupting the side's balance as he was at the end of his career? That patience for him to decide once and for all was running thin? All these months he was hanging on saying he was enjoying the game despite failure after failure and he retires from short format only after everybody is calling for his head. I don't call it lapse of judgement. He is too shrewd a man for that. Too knowledgeable. I would call it running out of rope to hang onto further! Does he think people are fools who will buy this tripe thought up in hindsight? No record or player is greater than the game. The next test series, selectors should get tough and offer him a farewell test and if he disagrees drop him altogether and retire him involuntarily! Younger careers waiting for their chance in the side can't be sacrificed further till he sees sense. I can respect the way Gavaskar retired form his career when still in supreme form when people were asking him why he retired at least 2 years earlier. The answer is for all to see of what he manage to avoid smartly later.
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