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India v England in India, ODI bi-lateral series, 2013

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Lord Grand Master

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They both seem to be test material but do they have any experience batting in conditions which are helpful for seamers ? Their records in FC are also in Indian conditions which are not conducive to swing bowling. This is where some county experience can come in handy but these two guys have none of that.
both have done well in A tours AFAIK
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Brainfade Newbie

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It seems like our selectors (and team mgt.) always get their timing wrong while blooding these players. They don't play them when they are in rousing form. At best, they pick them and put them in the 14 or 16 to warm the bench. If at all they do get their chance, it is after their form and confidence have taken a dive, and they've done nothing useful other than hanging out with the big boys. When they do get their chance, they don't seem ready. I recall that it happened with Badrinath and maybe M. Tiwary. It is happening with Rahane. I'll bet it'll happen with Dhawan and whoever else is doing well currently. Pujara is the exception.

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Number Grand Master

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They both seem to be test material but do they have any experience batting in conditions which are helpful for seamers ? Their records in FC are also in Indian conditions which are not conducive to swing bowling. This is where some county experience can come in handy but these two guys have none of that. Not just in ODIs, India lost in tests in England and Australia because the batsmen had no clue how to bat when the ball moved around. We will continue to lose there unless the batsmen learn to adapt. What are they doing to rectify this problem ?
From last 2 season BCCI is emphasizing on preparing good pitches. This season pitches have been good also in North weather helps ball to swing. Hopefully in a season or 2 we will see some more good batsmen. Although teams like Mumbai are still producing pancakes after pancakes.
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+1 Players have to earn their place by performance and not by reputation... In the current setup, unfortunately, there are still some more who are hanging on by their reputation. If Jadeja solves our fifth bowler issues, I would want Yuvi out too for 2015 worldcup
Yuvi has done so well, yet you want him out?
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rkt.india Grand Master

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Dhawan ton inflicts second defeat for England

England suffered their second successive defeat in a tour game as their bowlers failed to defend 295 against Delhi at the Kotla in seemingly bowling-friendly conditions. The ineffectiveness of the bowlers against a side possessing only a couple of known players is a worrying sign for Ashley Giles, the coach, ahead of the first ODI that begins in three days' time on a likely flat track in Rajkot. Choosing to bat first, the England batting clicked after they had collapsed to 175 all out in the previous warm-up match. Ian Bell followed up his 91 against India A with a century that helped other players to attack around him and post a daunting 294. However, they were not prepared for a backlash from Shikhar Dhawan, the Delhi opener, whose aggressive hundred set the tone for the other batsmen as Delhi overhauled the target comfortably in the penultimate over. While Bell's innings had been scratchy, Dhawan's was dominating right through. Whether it was Jade Dernbach, Stuart Meaker, Steven Finn or Chris Woakes, Dhawan played freely against them all. He drove majestically and was quick to pull anything short, the extra pace offered by the England bowlers suiting his strokeplay. When Meaker pitched short to him, he pulled one deep into the stands at midwicket for one of his three sixes. Dhawan, who has been on the fringes of India selection for sometime, also staked his claim for the opener's role in the national XI. Virender Sehwag, India's regular opener, has already been dropped and Gautam Gambhir's position at the top isn't any firmer. His 100 came off 98 balls with a slog-swept six off Tredwell. Dhawan also found solid support from 21-year-old batsman Milind Kumar, who remained unbeaten on 78. The Delhi batsmen, though, were helped by some wayward bowling by the England bowlers, who were also a touch short throughout the innings. The seamers were taken for 188 runs in 30.3 overs on a track where the India and Pakistan fast bowlers found help a couple of days ago. James Tredwell, deputising for the rested Graeme Swann, accepted that England needed to improve markedly in the opening ODI against India in Friday. "It's obviously not been ideal," he said. "We like to go in and win these games but we've not hit our skills in the way we'd have liked. We need to make some improvements in the next couple of days. We didn't hit our lengths consistently enough to build pressure over periods of time. "The result is irrelevent, but to be able to turn it around in the next couple of days going into the first ODI is crucial. We all have massive pride in our performances so when things don't go to plan it's disappointing. We can build on that disappointment and put it right going into the first game." While the bowling attack suffered, England's experienced batsmen made most of their time in the middle. Apart from Bell, three other batsmen - Alastair Cook, Eoin Morgan and Craig Keiswetter - made useful contributions and got the much-needed batting practice ahead of the five-match series. Bell, who opened the batting along with Cook, looked uncomfortable initially as the ball didn't come on to the bat and seamer Parwinder Awana troubled him with a tight line outside off. But he saw through the period by dropping anchor at his end and letting Cook play aggressively. Cook, the England captain, was in good touch and two of his shots - a cover drive and a backfoot punch through cover-point - both off Awana, stood out. He scored 44 before seamer Sumit Narwal breached his defence, but an opening stand of 70 had already given the visitors a good start. Although Joe Root and Samit Patel missed out, Morgan and Kieswetter attacked in the latter half of the innings, scoring 52 and 41 respectively, to put up a strong total. The bowling today, however, let the advantage slip through.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2012/content/current/story/600135.html
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