Sidhoni Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Who has impressed more - Bhuv Who deserves to play tests - Shami This is because Bhuv isn't that good a bowler in conditions that are not helpful but Shami can still manage to do well IMO.
CSK Fan Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 BK will turn into pk You mean will take 5-fers in tests. Great!
SLICKR392 Posted January 21, 2013 Author Posted January 21, 2013 Who has impressed more - Bhuv Who deserves to play tests - Shami This is because Bhuv isn't that good a bowler in conditions that are not helpful but Shami can still manage to do well IMO. Simple as that. Bhuv in "LOI" would be more effecting than Shami in helpful conditions but Shami can keep it tight even on Pattas.
Lord Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Simple as that. Bhuv in "LOI" would be more effecting than Shami in helpful conditions but Shami can keep it tight even on Pattas. on what evidence you say that?he hasnt played on pattas so far
SLICKR392 Posted January 21, 2013 Author Posted January 21, 2013 on what evidence you say that?he hasnt played on pattas so far He has in FC, a few months back all there was were pattas unlike the few green tops now. He doesn't pick regular wickets but he keeps it very tight.
Lord Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Who has impressed more - Bhuv Who deserves to play tests - Shami This is because Bhuv isn't that good a bowler in conditions that are not helpful but Shami can still manage to do well IMO. Bhuvi did okay in 1st spell in Rajkot patta n should have had Bell.has outbowled Shami in the matches they've played together so far
Old guy Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Bhuvi did okay in 1st spell in Rajkot patta n should have had Bell.has outbowled Shami in the matches they've played together so far thts not true lastmatch shamiwas more impressive and also bhuvan gets more chance as he has completed his overs up front even in debut game of shami he performed well u can say one of them out bowled other specially in last game where cos of pressure and wicket of shami ..we were able to keep england back even though bhuvan was having average day:p
SLICKR392 Posted January 21, 2013 Author Posted January 21, 2013 Bhuvi did okay in 1st spell in Rajkot patta n should have had Bell.has outbowled Shami in the matches they've played together so far Yes, he has been better than Shami. I would have him any day over Shami in helpful condition in "LOIs" & Shami did far better than Bhuvi in the Ranchi match.
King Tendulkar Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Who has impressed more - Bhuv Who deserves to play tests - Shami This is because Bhuv isn't that good a bowler in conditions that are not helpful but Shami can still manage to do well IMO. yep
Lord Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Yes' date=' he has been better than Shami. I would have him any day over Shami in helpful condition in "LOIs" & Shami did far better than Bhuvi in the Ranchi match.[/quote'] yeah he was better in Ranchi,but not by much imo.BK bowled straight 10 overs dont forget. Kumar gets movement due to ability too,not just condition,Kochi was fairly flat in 2nd innings n he still got KP with an indipper
King Tendulkar Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Well really impressed was how shami bowled to cook in the 2 matches. Cook as we know is a monster at the moment, in form of his life. Yet he did not like facing shami, who gave him nothing. Nothing short, wide or on legs. Contained and troubled cook, who at moment if you give one thing worng punishes you. Really bowled well at top batsman in 2 games. Shami in terms of seam position and pace reminds me of sree. Just a lot more accurate and more even tempremant.
adi B Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 i still think we have not seen best of shami he is gonna surprise people in coming matches if pitches help right now heis pitching bit short +1..perfect test lengths he bowls
kubrickian Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Shami also seems to be bowling well to left handers. He troubled Jamshed and Cook who are in very good form. This might be crucial because Aus has many left handers - Warner, Cowan, Hughes, Wade etc. He is also 5K faster than BK.
msb1991 Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Ideal state of affairs is that they'd both play in India A over a three match series together. They take the new ball together and see which one does better. Is such a tour coming up?
Old guy Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Ideal state of affairs is that they'd both play in India A over a three match series together. They take the new ball together and see which one does better. Is such a tour coming up? in previous a tours shami out bowled him..and yes theere is a tour but its after australian series..:(( and i think this time they will send new bowlers like kaul,pqndey etc
rkt.india Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Ideal state of affairs is that they'd both play in India A over a three match series together. They take the new ball together and see which one does better. Is such a tour coming up? They have already and Shami outbowled BK.
diga Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Anybody, how they bowl with old ball? Who gets reverse swing?
Old guy Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Anybody' date=' how they bowl with old ball? Who gets reverse swing?[/quote'] yeah shami gets reverse and i saw kaul bowl really well with oldish ball dont think bhuvan has enough pace to both batsmen with reverse..also u need good seam position :p
vamos_rafa Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Anybody' date=' how they bowl with old ball? Who gets reverse swing?[/quote'] Shami did well against Pakis at Delhi with the old ball. He kept a tight line with a bit of reverse swing.
saneindian Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 Dhoni doesn't rate them very highly for test matches. The skipper is also impressed with the effort of young new ball bowlers Bhuvneshwar Kumar and Shami Ahmed, but is certainly in no mood not to throw the youngsters into Test cricket right now. "Shorter format will give them (Bhuvneshwar and Shami) more exposure. "Test cricket is entirely different and if you look at someone like Bhuvneshwar, he can be effective in specific conditions. To play him in Tests, you need to have a look at the conditions. Like if we are playing in England [ Images ], New Zealand [ Images ] or South Africa [ Images ] where the ball swings and seams, he can be considered but on sub-continental tracks he would need to alter the length which he bowls," Dhoni explained. "As far as Shami is concerned, he is someone who can bowl quick and can reverse the ball but he also needs to improve." http://www.rediff.com/cricket/report/england-tour-india-odi-series-dhoni-defends-out-of-form-gambhir-ashwin/20130127.htm
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