rkt.india Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 CHANDIGARH: Rarely does an Indian fast bowler come in for praise from the opposition camp. But this time its not one but two of them, who have consistently troubled the English batsmen with their swing. Opening batsman Ian Bell, who has to face most of those swinging deliveries from Team India's newfound opening ball pair - Shami Ahmed and Bhuvneshwar Kumar - was candid when he agreed that the duo have been 'troublesome' and their swing a big 'problem' for the English openers. "Both Shami Ahmed and Bhuvneshwar Kumar swing the ball both ways and that has troubled our batsmen. They not only swing it in the air but its late swing, which is difficult to gauge, and the two have been a problem for us in this series. Negotiating their opening burst would be key for us," said a candid Bell, on the sidelines of the India-England 4th one-dayer at the PCA stadium, Mohali. It seemed that the English opener was in a very good mood as he also acknowledged the role of Ravindra Jadeja in the middle overs. "He has been a very good one-day allrounder and has been crucial to India's fortunes in this series. He gets wickets in those middle overs, which is very important. He also bats aggressively lower down the order and is an asset for the Indian team." Bell said after his team's net session. Bell, also felt that the rule changes in one-day cricket has meant that teams now look at building an innings rather than go slam-bang, which was the most preferred norm earlier. "No one can play massive shots when there are two new balls. Ideally a team would like to get a platform and as Dhoni showed us in the Kochi ODI, the last 10-15 overs are very important for a team. If a team has wickets in hand then they can score as many runs as possible in the slog overs," added Bell. Putting up a brave face, Bell said that his team is feeling at home with the 'very English' like weather here and the England pacers would like to exploit the conditions in-order to level the 5-match ODI series. It's a do or die match for the Englishmen if they harbour any hopes of taking the series till the last one-dayer in Dharamshala. "The conditions are more familiar than we had in the last couple of games. Obviously, it is nice to get out a little bit of breeze, sure helps everyone. Hopefully, we will get an opportunity to put up a performance like we did in the first ODI and go 2-2 (in the series)," he said. The batsman, however, doesn't see India having any edge. "We went to the first ODI losing two warm up games. We have to believe that we can win and we have shown that we can do that. But we have to do our basics right and all XI players have to perform and play well," signed of Bell on a confident note. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/series-tournament/england-in-india-2013/top-stories/Shami-and-Bhuvneshwar-have-been-a-problem-for-us-Bell/articleshow/18120662.cms
nsareen Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Good news but I feel dhoni is going overboard with the 10 overs on the trot with Bhuvi. I hope he doesn't breakdown before the Australia test series. I believe he can be a good test player with his all round skills. Even shami shud be a part of the test team. We shud get rid of Ishant and. Get Kaul in his place.
gakgupta Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Good news but I feel dhoni is going overboard with the 10 overs on the trot with Bhuvi. I hope he doesn't breakdown before the Australia test series. I believe he can be a good test player with his all round skills. Even shami shud be a part of the test team. We shud get rid of Ishant and. Get Kaul in his place. Bhuv is inexperienced and would be ineffective with old ball.....so dhoni is having bhuv bowl all the 10 overs at once.....infact that has been the success mantra in the last 2 ODI's.....I have seen Bhuv bowl 8 to 9 overs at the trot for UP...so it shouldn't be new for him..... Kaul is completely inexperienced......even though he has talent, he should be gradually progressed to higher standards....otherwise he might loose his confidence and completely perish
Sean Bradley Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 I thought English were the best players of seam and swing and geoff boycotts mom could play the swinging delivery with a stump
SLICKR392 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 I thought English were the best players of seam and swing and geoff boycotts mom could play the swinging delivery with a stump Grandmom* :agree:
Lord Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Good news but I feel dhoni is going overboard with the 10 overs on the trot with Bhuvi. I hope he doesn't breakdown before the Australia test series. I believe he can be a good test player with his all round skills. Even shami shud be a part of the test team. We shud get rid of Ishant and. Get Kaul in his place. agree with everything,except we should get Awana/Pankaj Singh in for Ishant,not Kaul
prinzo Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 These two bowlers are the real deal , and deserve a prolonged run
vishalvirsingh Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Awana is better than pankaj or Sidhart Kaul
JaFanatic Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Awana is better than pankaj or Sidhart Kaul dont know abt kaul but pankaj is better than awana in the longer format and awana is better than pankaj in the shorter formats and awana is quicker than the both. and on fielding aspects awana has to be the worst among the three:giggle:
Trundler27 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 I agree that Awana should have more chances.... crap even dinda got more opportunities without doing much (other than a couple of t20 games)
Dumbbells Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 If someone remembers a poster called Pace attack, he said Bhuveneshwar kumar and Shammi ahmed should have traveled Australia last year instead of Vinay kumar and Praveen kumar. Boy, i stand corrected.
Old guy Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 shami ahmed back then ? he was not ready..what ur seeing now all the accuracy is cos of 2 a tours and one more season he played
Dumbbells Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 shami ahmed back then ? he was not ready..what ur seeing now all the accuracy is cos of 2 a tours and one more season he played and, how do u know dat?
mastana Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 If someone remembers a poster called Pace attack' date= he said Bhuveneshwar kumar and Shammi ahmed should have traveled Australia last year instead of Vinay kumar and Praveen kumar. Boy, i stand corrected. Hit wicket b himself. :hysterical:
Old guy Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 and' date=' how do u know dat?[/quote'] followed all domestic matches even saw him bowl he was far from ready for international cricket im syaing same thing abt kaul right now who impressed me a lot u need atleast 2 seasons and back then he did not even bowl 1 full season and had no experince all we knew back then was he can swing the ball fairly well if conditions help..we hadn o idea how he will cope against better batsmen on flatter pitches (since he did not do tht well on tracks which did not help and was kind of expensive ) but with one more season and 2 a tours he is much more experinced ..and learnt a lot of triks and improved control too
Dumbbells Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 followed all domestic matches even saw him bowl he was far from ready for international cricket im syaing same thing abt kaul right now who impressed me a lot u need atleast 2 seasons and back then he did not even bowl 1 full season and had no experince all we knew back then was he can swing the ball fairly well if conditions help..we hadn o idea how he will cope against better batsmen on flatter pitches (since he did not do tht well on tracks which did not help and was kind of expensive ) but with one more season and 2 a tours he is much more experinced ..and learnt a lot of triks and improved control too Alright i will take ur opinion on this. But didn't Lalchand rajput mentioned that he was the standout bowler in India A team against WI A team? He should have been picked, i think the india A team played in WI before the Australia tour happened. Correct me if I am wrong.
munafbhai Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 agree with everything' date='except we should get Awana/Pankaj Singh in for Ishant,not Kaul[/quote'] agree:hatsoff:
Old guy Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Alright i will take ur opinion on this. But didn't Lalchand rajput mentioned that he was the standout bowler in India A team against WI A team? He should have been picked' date=' i think the india A team played in WI before the Australia tour happened. Correct me if I am wrong.[/quote'] yeah but all of his coaches also said he is not fully ready yet! even bengal coach said it this season!
Dumbbells Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 yeah but all of his coaches also said he is not fully ready yet! even bengal coach said it this season! bengal coach? dude, I would rather take what Lalchand rajput said about him.
Old guy Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 bengal coach? dude' date=' I would rather take what Lalchand rajput said about him.[/quote'] even lalchand praised him a lot but im not quoting him but form wht i remember even he said he was good prospect not finished ur just not finished after playing 3-4 matches and wasnt west indies tour after australian tour anyway ?
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