panther Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 In Pakistan we have bowlers like BK on every street playing cricket.
Lord Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 In Pakistan we have bowlers like BK on every street playing cricket. and yet you have Tanvir Ahmed playing a Test match:hysterical:
I6MTW Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 In Pakistan we have bowlers like BK on every street playing cricket. Is that why Pak is no 5 in tests and no 4 in t20's and 4 in odi's? And 0-3 whitewash to sa?
panther Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 and yet you have Tanvir Ahmed playing a Test match:hysterical: Tanvir ahmed >>>>>>bk
I6MTW Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 when has taken 1 wicket early on in a test innings much less 3?
panther Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 Is that why Pak is no 5 in tests and no 4 in t20's and 4 in odi's? And 0-3 whitewash to sa? For the sake of cricket the talent is being held back otherwise only Pakistanis will watch cricket.
CG Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 they moved in the air n continued after pitching.didnt move off the pitch some balls nipped a long way off the pitch.With his seam position kula will always get sema movement.
tweaker Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 It is too early to hype him.He is a one dimensional bowler.He should be used as a bowling allrounder who will bowl after Yadav,Aoron,Shami in SA.
MCcricket Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 B K and Jadeja are bits and pieces players only will perform with the aid of conditions, for spinners u need boers who can turn the ball a bit more and get flight n drift same for pacer u need someone to ball between 136 to 142 e en if he moves the ball a bit to be a genuine test bowler.
MCcricket Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 B K and Jadeja are bits and pieces players only will perform with the aid of conditions, for spinners u need boers who can turn the ball a bit more and get flight n drift same for pacer u need someone to ball between 136 to 142 even if he moves the ball a bit to be a genuine test bowler.
ganeshran Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 He gets low bounce. On pitches with variable bounce you can get away with it as Shane Watson's lbw dismissal showed. But when the pitch has true bounce, batsmen will take him to the cleaners. Not a test match bowler IMO
CSK Fan Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 He gets low bounce. On pitches with variable bounce you can get away with it as Shane Watson's lbw dismissal showed. But when the pitch has true bounce, batsmen will take him to the cleaners. Not a test match bowler IMO I distinctly remember PK with his low bounce causing havoc in Aus during CB series finals. Ponting was out twice trying to pull him and Ponting is one of the best pullers
ganeshran Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 I distinctly remember PK with his low bounce causing havoc in Aus during CB series finals. Ponting was out twice trying to pull him and Ponting is one of the best pullers That was in ODIs. I am talking about test matches.
Yoda-esque Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 BK=Venky Prasad+Praveen Kumar So I am sure he will do well in SA...
vvvslaxman Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 He will be bowling to bunch of skillful batsmen. I will surprised if he worries anyone in their line up.
rkt.india Posted March 5, 2013 Author Posted March 5, 2013 He will be bowling to bunch of skillful batsmen. I will surprised if he worries anyone in their line up. They also have had some low scores in recent years. It is all about the kind of attack they are facing. I bet if likes of Steyn, Philander, Morkel will bowl to them on those pitches, they will be in as much discomfort as others are.
ganeshran Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 They also have had some low scores in recent years. It is all about the kind of attack they are facing. I bet if likes of Steyn' date=' Philander, Morkel will bowl to them on those pitches, they will be in as much discomfort as others are.[/quote'] If a spinner (Ashwin or Ojha) does brilliantly, Saffers can be wrapped up for low scores. With seamers of our quality, even if we pick up few quick wickets, one or the other batsman will dig in for a big score. If spinners bowl like we did against England, a whitewash is pretty much a given.
CSK Fan Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 That was in ODIs. I am talking about test matches. Err, how does that make a difference in what we are discussing? You mentioned that low bounce makes it easier for batsmen to hit out. On the contrary, on true pitches, when ball keeps low and skids through batsmen generally play a false shot. As the PK ball's to Ponting prove, even the best pullers get decieved when ball keeps low
saneindian Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 BK looks to be far more consistent with his line than PK or some other swing / seam bowlers we have had. Early days for him but his consistent line , length and the ability to land balls at the same spot repeatedly could see him do better as a test bowler outside India.
ganeshran Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 Err' date=' how does that make a difference in what we are discussing? You mentioned that low bounce makes it easier for batsmen to hit out. On the contrary, on true pitches, when ball keeps low and skids through batsmen generally play a false shot. As the PK ball's to Ponting prove, even the best pullers get decieved when ball keeps low[/quote'] Not sure if srs. The dynamics of ODIs and tests are totally different. The field settings, pitch conditions, batting style - everything is different. BK will do comparatively better in ODIs and his batting is a big plus there. Test matches are a different game. In a pitch with true bounce, deliveries which consistently keep low (Knee to waist high) are an early Diwali for the batsmen. Remember, they dont have the compulsion to immediately attack the bowler. There is ample time to just knock the ball around, negate the movement and then go after the bowling.
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