Stuge Posted September 1, 2013 Posted September 1, 2013 http://www.indianexpress.com/news/moily-plan-to-save-the-rupee-shut-petrol-pumps-at-night/1162919/ :cantstop::cantstop: This is some trolling for sure .
Bharat Nirmaan Posted September 1, 2013 Posted September 1, 2013 We need such stop-gap measures, Use buses/trains for going to office. It depresses me when I see owner alone in his big SUV. We are building world class transport infrastructure but it will take 2 decades more for each and every city to reap benefits. One day we will have Singapore type infrastructure, we should restrict private vehicles so people use public transport instead.
Clarke Posted September 1, 2013 Posted September 1, 2013 We heard something else few months earlier: "We are floating in oil and gas but unable to explore it" Under fire on the gas pricing issue, Petroleum and Natural Gas Minister Veerappa Moily on Friday took everyone by surprise by claiming that India was “floating in oil and gas” and every successive Petroleum Minister stood threatened by “import lobbies” not to take decisions aimed at cutting down import of petroleum products. Interestingly, Mr. Moily refrained from naming the lobbies. India, which imports around 80 per cent of oil and gas needs, has been constantly trying to seek investments from domestic and foreign investors in the oil and gas sector. Public sector oil marketing companies are major importers of oil and gas. Bureaucratic delays “I am telling you with all sense of responsibility that we are floating in oil and gas in this country. We are not exploring it; instead we are putting every obstruction to it. There are delays caused by bureaucrats in decision-making and there are lobbies which don’t want us to stop imports. There are some lobbies which threaten every successive Petroleum Minister against taking decisions to cut down imports,” he told reporters in New Delhi. On being repeatedly asked about the lobbies, he said: “history will speak about it. It is for you to judge.” “Oil and gas imports will keep on rising if domestic production is not incentivised through the right pricing policy. We are challenged by the vagaries of international price,” he said. Revision of gas price was aimed at reviving investor sentiment. the sentiment was quite low for the last four to five years and the government had to find the right price to attract investments. Interestingly, even before the Cabinet has discussed the matter, which is confidential in nature, Mr. Moily went public stating that he had proposed to the Cabinet Committee on Economic Affairs (CCEA) the raising of domestic gas price from the current $4.2 per million British thermal unit to $6.775. “Open to suggestions” Asked about CPI MP Gurudas Dasgupta’s allegations that gas price hike was meant to benefit Reliance Industries Ltd (RIL), he said the Petroleum Ministry was open to any solution that would help unshackle the present grid of non-investment-no-production and increased imports. “I had called Mr. Dasgupta but he is not prepared to come for a discussion. But I can reassure him or whosoever is there in the market — all the criticism should be there, but it should not get personal. I am open to all suggestions.” http://www.thehindu.com/business/Economy/import-lobbies-threaten-every-petroleum-minister-says-moily/article4814393.ece
urbestfriend Posted September 1, 2013 Posted September 1, 2013 We need such stop-gap measures' date=' Use buses/trains for going to office.[b'] It depresses me when I see owner alone in his big SUV. We are building world class transport infrastructure but it will take 2 decades more for each and every city to reap benefits. One day we will have Singapore type infrastructure, we should restrict private vehicles so people use public transport instead. One problem I see often here in Bangalore, you get into traffic jam every day and see 90% of traffic consists of cars driven by owners alone! Lack of good public transports is one reason for this mess, but people not opting for car pooling etc wouldn't help either.
Clarke Posted September 1, 2013 Posted September 1, 2013 We have less than 20 motor vehicles per thousand, i.e. less than 2% ownership. Yeah, lets restrict private cars. I miss those license raj days, the rich drove around in padminis and ambassadors while the rest of us aspired for the Bajaj Super after saving up for years.
saneindian Posted September 1, 2013 Posted September 1, 2013 Hearing some chatter that it is likely to come into effect from 15th Sept!!
Stuge Posted September 1, 2013 Author Posted September 1, 2013 Hearing some chatter that it is likely to come into effect from 15th Sept!! UPA is making their case water tight for 2014 elections :hysterical:
rkt.india Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 We heard something else few months earlier: "We are floating in oil and gas but unable to explore it" http://www.thehindu.com/business/Economy/import-lobbies-threaten-every-petroleum-minister-says-moily/article4814393.ece I think he is right but we are not exploring enough in our own country. If we do, 70% of our needs will be fulfilled without importing. Our govt. oil marketing companies have not done much in this regard and private sector is making huge profits likes of Reliance who are selling oil extracted from home territories at international prices.
ravishingravi Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 I thought this was a joke. But this is an serious suggestion on the table.
diga Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 Aam Adami: Why the food prices going up? Food Minister: I don't know! AA: Why so much lawless ness in the country? Home Minister: I don't know! AA: Why Rupee loosing its value? Finance Minister: I don't know! AA: Whats happening to India? Prime Minister: I don't know! Mr. Veerappa Moily also joins the "I Don't Know Club"! :wall:
Mariyam Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 I thought this was a joke. But this is an serious suggestion on the table. This is a serious suggestion? It enforced, this is only going to result in large scale black marketing of petrol/diesel/cng. I doubt it is going to have even as much as a minimal effect on consumption. We can only see petrol pump owners, police and regulatory officers from the district collector's benefiting from such a retarded rule. Impractical and absolutely ill-conceived 'solution'.
ravishingravi Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 This is a serious suggestion? It enforced, this is only going to result in large scale black marketing of petrol/diesel/cng. I doubt it is going to have even as much as a minimal effect on consumption. We can only see petrol pump owners, police and regulatory officers from the district collector's benefiting from such a retarded rule. Impractical and absolutely ill-conceived 'solution'. Yeah I think you nailed it. Govt. has lost its collective ****.
saneindian Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 Finally Mannu Bhai has developed a spine. Shoots down this proposal by Moily and Chiddu Soniaji is not going to be happy. Her socialist agenda and plan of taking us back to quota raj of 1970s suffers a setback.
Clarke Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 Wow, I can now buy petrol for my two wheeler when I want :yay:
diga Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 Wow' date=' I can now buy petrol for my two wheeler when I want :yay:[/quote'] but still too expensive for your 4-wheeler :sad_smile:
Holysmoke Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 Yeah I think you nailed it. Govt. has lost its collective ****. And people are still gonna vote this govt back into power. :cantstop:
diga Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 The economist Prime Minister of India is quite perturbed over our dipping economy and the rising dollar. And the other day, in his uncharacteristically aggressive avatar when he took on the opposition, he also pleaded with his countrymen to save petrol and not waste it. It was, for a change, a sagely advise and I welcome it fully, PM, Sir. For, not only will it save precious foreign exchange but would be great for the environment too. I would have been happier if you had also announced some incentives and policy guidelines on how one can use less petrol/fuel. Perhaps a line or two with advise to your policy makers to actively promote non-motorised transport, among others. And dear PM, do you know why, despite the genuine concern with which you advised people not to waste petrol, the common man still derides you for what you said? It is because he knows you can never practice what you preach. They see you, other politicians, especially ministers and bureaucrats, waste petrol with impunity. They also know that all those who make these pleas will themselves never be hit by any price rise even if the rate were to go up not by Rs 2 per litre but even Rs 1000 per litre, because they never have to pay for it. Their bill is, and will, always be footed by us, the common man, through the tax we pay for you to be able to maintain your luxurious, profligate, lifestyles. Look at the number of cars that accompany all your ministers, from you to the junior most. Do a discrete enquiry about how the posse of cars at their disposal is misused by anyone in these offices, from PAs to EAs to all others, with the attendant red light beacons atop. It is as if it has been received in dowry with a lifetime, guaranteed, fuel supply. And not just your ministers, look at the bureaucrats, and don’t need to go out of Delhi for that. Just a cursory look at what happens in Delhi alone would suffice. Each and every senior government officer misuses the ‘official’ vehicle (office cars, cars summoned from PSUs under ministries and taxis) made available to him or her. Madam’s kitty parties, dropping kids to school, grocery shopping, getting to personal parties to anything else is ‘official’. And why do they get away with it? Because I and 99 per cent of those reading this post, are paying for its misuse. In fact, I have a good mind to file an RTI application to check how much you dole out as fuel bill for your officer in Delhi. And in that I would include what you pay the taxi companies whose services you employ. Needless to say, I would also like to know who owns the taxi companies these contracts are given to. I read a statement by the petroleum minister that in order to curb petrol usage, he would ask the petrol bunks to be shut at night. Again, it is a well-intentioned move, but will be seen as no more than a knee-jerk response. What you need to do is provide a credible public transport system to the population. Delhi already has a metro that is as close to world class as we can create. But how many of your ministers or Babus ever use public transport? Delhi Metro touches the major office areas of the city such as Udyog Bhavan and Central Secretariat. Even your own office and Rashtrapati Bhavan are walking distance from these stations. Why not make it mandatory for all those who do not have a threat to their lives to use the metro? Offices can run shuttle services from the stations to the office and even from the sprawling government residential complexes to the nearest metro stations. Or is it below the dignity of all your non-clerical officers to be seen in a public transport with dirty, smelly, commoners? PM, Sir, please remember that we, the common people, will respect you if you were to follow certain principles yourself. For that, you need to convince us that you practice what you preach. If you are unable to set your own house in order first and still want to preach, you should desist from playing a sage. In the meanwhile, have you seen an advertisement where Sachin Tendulkar drives around an SUV at a track and has a great time and then emerges, excited like a child and asks, let us go for a drive again. You could perhaps advise the nominated member of the Rajya Sabha and also a Bharat Ratna aspirant to not do adverts that make a virtue out of wasting ‘precious’ fuel.:hysterical:
CG Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 Really how can shutting petrol pumps at night reduce import bill .People will just fill the tanks or buy from black-market.
Clarke Posted September 2, 2013 Posted September 2, 2013 Anyone else see the dark side here ? We were supposed to be the next big thing on the world stage and we're already running low on fuel. Brazil: We decided to run as much as we can on ethanol and we did well. USA: We're drill between the rocks and that's really helping. India: We'll erm shut down petrol pumps 12 hrs a day. No wait, that's no use, we have run out of ideas, help!
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