CLT20: Visas issued for Pakistan's Faisalabad Wolves [updated 13/09]

[JaFanatic]

As expected ICF erupting seeing Pakistan's failure :headshake: As if India won a CT

You want us to feel bad for them ? They're getting what they deserve

[SLICKR392]

As expected ICF erupting seeing Pakistan's failure :headshake: As if India won a CT

Go whine with them dude. At certain forums, I see you joining their 'Indian bashing' party.

[randomGuy]

It would be good if they have a bangladeshi team also in CT as they have a big following for cricket.

[Executioner]

Go whine with them dude. At certain forums' date=' I see you joining their 'Indian bashing' party.[/quote'] I am not an Indian basher

[G_B_]

I personally dont like this sort of actions. Your telling me that things have drastically changed since December 2012 when they toured us? India needs to be consistent. Either dont play them at all for years to come. or play them. This selective treatment needs to end. All that does is create false hopes. This raises big questions when India hosts the T20 world cup in 2016. If god forbid there are frosty relations, will visa's be refused? Personally speaking Pakistan should not have toured in 2012. Atleast thats a consistent action. The BCCI also needs to get rid of the tag champions league. Bring in the ECB and have 4 IPL teams 4 from England Aus and Sa. Call it the Major T20 cricket league. 4 groups of 4, semi and final. Cause as things stand Pakistan will participate every alternate year in SA/ whereever its held outside India.

[Austin 3:!6]

Cricinfo says: "Faisalabad hopeful of visas despite uncertainty"

Faisalabad Wolves, Pakistan's domestic Twenty20 champions, are optimistic of taking part in the Champions League though they have not yet been issued with visas for India. They have been training and focusing on their cricket, team officials said, in preparation for the tournament. Faisalabad play their first match on September 17 in Mohali, and they called off their last practice session scheduled for Thursday evening in the expectation that they would be issued their visas and would need time to pack. However, there was no official indication either way from the Indian government or the BCCI on whether the visas would be granted. The PCB also told ESPNcricinfo that the visas had neither been issued nor denied. "The players have been training assuming that they are going to depart as planned," Haroon Rasheed, the Faisalabad team manager, told ESPNcricinfo. "There may be some uncertainty but the players are asked to just focus on cricket and nothing else. We have completed our conditioning camp and the players have dispersed to do their packing and get ready by tonight." If they get their visas, Faisalabad will be only the second Pakistan team to take part in the Champions League and the first in India - Sialkot Stallions competed in the 2012 tournament in South Africa. The mood within the camp was one of hope and excitement. "For us who haven't played at the national level it is a mega event," one player said. "It will boost our careers. We are obviously down but are hopeful. It would be really unfair for us to be denied at the last hour. If they did not want to allow us they should have denied earlier instead of taking so long." The players are scheduled to depart in two batches; those in Lahore are due to leave on Saturday while three players in the Pakistan national team - Misbah ul Haq, Saeed Ajmal and Ehsan Adil - are due to fly from Zimbabwe on the completion of the current series. The last day of the ongoing second Test in Harare is on Saturday.

[Asim]

Indian govt, BCCI and Indian fans too consistent with their policies and approach over cricketing relations with Pakistan... Everything they do or think just makes pure sense...

[Austin 3:!6]

Indian govt' date=' BCCI and Indian fans too consistent with their policies and approach over cricketing relations with Pakistan... Everything they do or think just makes pure sense...[/quote'] Its a fact India dont want to play cricket against Pakistan for obvious reasons. But my question is - why is Pakistan so eager to play us? I mean there are 9 other cricket nations..unke saath khelo na. By keep on asking India "Mere saath khelo, mere saath khelo" they are embarrasing themselves everytime. Until political situation improves forget India. Dont live in the past (same boring Ind - Pak rivalries) and move on. Try to build new rivalries like we did against Aussies. There are plenty of cricket nations

[JaFanatic]

Indian govt' date=' BCCI and [b']Indian fans too consistent with their policies and approach over cricketing relations with Pakistan... Everything they do or think just makes pure sense...

Dont whine about the fans in general there are fans who doesn care about the people who lost their life and wont mind about the ones who may lose their life by pakistanis, at the same time there are fans who doesn want any ties with your country

[Clarke]

We have an upcoming series against South Africa to focus on ... better that Misbah not participate in this distraction.

Thank You india! for taking care of Pakistani Cricket :two_thumbs_up:

You guys said the same thing before CT 2013 about the IPL. Look what happened :winky: PS: I wouldn't care much about CL but would definitely want every qualifying team to participate in it. If we're hosting an international tournament, we should be dignified in allowing all qualified participants.

[the don]

Its a fact India dont want to play cricket against Pakistan for obvious reasons. But my question is - why is Pakistan so eager to play us? I mean there are 9 other cricket nations..unke saath khelo na. By keep on asking India "Mere saath khelo, mere saath khelo" they are embarrasing themselves everytime. Until political situation improves forget India. Dont live in the past (same boring Ind - Pak rivalries) and move on. Try to build new rivalries like we did against Aussies. There are plenty of cricket nations

lol what rivalry , india has an equally bad record against both pakistan and australia , an occasional fluke victory does not make a rivalry . hopefully the indians stick to their policy of not playing cricket with pakistan and not pick and choose when it suits them , PCB( the players ) might miss out on easy money from cricket mad india but might eventually help them to get their priorities right .

[Haarkarjeetgaye]

we can allow if they convert? :hysterical:

[the don]

why does this only apply to the cricket team though , rahat ali , ali zafar , atif aslam , the blind cricket team etc etc are not subjected to such sentiments , i wonder why .

[Haarkarjeetgaye]

lol what rivalry , india has an equally bad record against both pakistan and australia , an occasional fluke victory does not make a rivalry . hopefully the indians stick to their policy of not playing cricket with pakistan and not pick and choose when it suits them , PCB might miss out on easy money from cricket mad india but might eventually help them to get their priorities right .

well - its your players who are missing out by not being allowed to play in India. Not PCB. PCB is missing out because no one tours Pakistan which is not India only but other nations as well Its like no one watches Pakistani movies but some of your performers desperately cross the border to make money in Indian movies.

[the don]

Its like no one watches Pakistani movies but some of your performers desperately cross the border to make money in Indian movies.

because they are better than their indian counterparts ?? atif aslam put singers like abhijeet out of work yet he is still revered in india

[kubrickian]

I personally dont like this sort of actions. Your telling me that things have drastically changed since December 2012 when they toured us? India needs to be consistent. Either dont play them at all for years to come. or play them. This selective treatment needs to end. All that does is create false hopes. This raises big questions when India hosts the T20 world cup in 2016. If god forbid there are frosty relations, will visa's be refused? Personally speaking Pakistan should not have toured in 2012. Atleast thats a consistent action. The BCCI also needs to get rid of the tag champions league. Bring in the ECB and have 4 IPL teams 4 from England Aus and Sa. Call it the Major T20 cricket league. 4 groups of 4, semi and final. Cause as things stand Pakistan will participate every alternate year in SA/ whereever its held outside India.

How can there be consistency in decisions like these when there is no consistency in bilateral relations ? We are dealing with a country of madmen which has talks one day and then a few days later has soldiers or terrorists from their territory attacking Indian posts and killing Indian soldiers. A country which has terror groups in their soil which sends terrorists to India, kills our countrymen ? How can we engage with them as though everything is fine and continue with cricket tours, bus tours when people from their country are engaging in a war with us ? What is Pak government doing about these terror cells and the list of terrorists and people wanted by India ? Pretty much nothing. Clean up the mess first. Cricket, Bollywood and other miscellaneous stuff comes much later.

[JaFanatic]

why does this only apply to the cricket team though ' date=' rahat ali , ali zafar , atif aslam , the blind cricket team etc etc are not subjected to such sentiments , i wonder why .[/quote'] Lahori logic at its best whitewashing 4-0 is "an occasional fluke victory" :hysterical: Dude its your win against zimboks where you won by a one win margin in the three match series and your win against Ireland where they choked in the last minute. Just as he said stop living in the past try to save the ongoing test match against your new arch-rival Zimboks :two_thumbs_up:

[Haarkarjeetgaye]

because they are better than their indian counterparts ?? atif aslam put singers like abhijeet out of work yet he is still revered in india

well yes they may be better. Lot many bollywood stars come from outside India to serve the Indian industry. you missed the point. If there is a ban on these people coming to bollywood, then its these people who lose out not your Pakistani movie Industry. Likewise no playing in India is a loss to your players financially and experience wise, be it CL 20 or IPL. It is not so much a loss for PCB, the loss for PCB is because no country wants to come to play to Pakistan

[the don]

whitewashing 4-0 is "an occasional fluke victory"

how is the scoreline from indias last test tour of australia relevant to your argument :idunno:

[JaFanatic]

How can there be consistency in decisions like these when there is no consistency in bilateral relations ? We are dealing with a country of madmen which has talks one day and then a few days later has soldiers or terrorists from their territory attacking Indian posts and killing Indian soldiers. A country which has terror groups in their soil which sends terrorists to India, kills our countrymen ? How can we engage with them as though everything is fine and continue with cricket tours, bus tours when people from their country are engaging in a war with us ? What is Pak government doing about these terror cells and the list of terrorists and people wanted by India ? Pretty much nothing. Clean up the mess first. Cricket, Bollywood and other miscellaneous stuff comes much later.

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